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Abgal, Hubal and other words were once old deities/Gods

Post by XimanJaale »

Just stumbled across some mythologise and found that Abgal and Hubal were old deities.

Hubal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubal
Hubal was a god worshipped in pre-Islamic Arabia, notably at the Kaaba in Mecca. His idol was a human figure, believed to control acts of divination, which was in the form of tossing arrows before the statue. The direction in which the arrows pointed answered questions asked of the idol. The origins of the cult of Hubal are uncertain, but the name is found in inscriptions from Nabataea in northern Arabia (across the territory of modern Syria and Iraq). The specific powers and identity attributed to Hubal are equally unclear.
Abgal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abgal_(god)
Abgal is a pre-Islamic north Arabian god, known from the Palmyrian desert regions as a god of Bedouins and camel drivers.
Baal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal
Baal, also rendered Baʿal (Biblical Hebrew בַּעַל, pronounced [ˈbaʕal]), is a North-West Semitic title and honorific meaning "master" or "lord"[1] that is used for various gods who were patrons of cities in the Levant and Asia Minor, cognate to Akkadian Bēlu. A Baalist or Baalite means a worshipper of Baal.
If any find other old deities similar to Somali clan names or myth names.
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:lol: we muslims know from the seerah about the three main pagan gods, Al-laat, al-cuzza, and hubal, there were many more but now you are just taking shots at beesha abgal :lol
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Taking shots at Beesha Abgaal? Paranoia much? And there was me trying to search for other Somali clans including my own if there are any old deities that have the similar name.
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baal and bacal are entirely different.
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gurey25 wrote:baal and bacal are entirely different.
Really? I thought baal was pronounced ba3al.

Ximanjaalle, I think you're clutching at straws there. Somalis have no connection with pre-islamic arabia.
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ba'el or ba'al is semtic and all semetic languages can be broken down to its roots.
this means bacal is semetic not from the other branches of afro-asiatic

and since i believe semetic is younger than cushitic langauges.
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How do you know it's older? The somali vocabulary for instance, is very small compared to most languages never mind arabic.
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its not the size of the language that determines age, but the consistency and accuracy.

but i admit it is guess work, because nomadic langauges are like a time capsule, they change very slowly
as soon as the speakers of a language settle down the langauge starts to mutate very quickly and foriegn influences increase.

nomadic languages are also mostly illeterate and oral cutlures,
this pushes the language to be good at transmitting information with minimum loss,
there is something similair to shannon hartley coding in nomadic langauges limmting noise.
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So somali is less consistent and accurate or more so? I've always thought somali was very inefficient due to entire sentences required to translate one word.
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:So somali is less consistent and accurate or more so? I've always thought somali was very inefficient due to entire sentences required to translate one word.

more efficent, oral cultures, specially nomadic ones are very consistent and accurate.
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Interesting read, just out of curiosity were there any shower gods :jawalrus:
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gurey25 wrote:baal and bacal are entirely different.
What is bacal? Never heard of that.

Baal is a Somali word and it means wing or feather in Somali.
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:
Ximanjaalle, I think you're clutching at straws there. Somalis have no connection with pre-islamic arabia.
Somalis did have connections with pre-Islamic Arabia through trade. But I'am not suggesting that these words are from the Arabs, for all we know they got these names from us.
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