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lower shabelle conflict is a federalist strategy!
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:24 pm
by sahal80
As you know the regional federalists had a confrontations with the central govt, thus, what's going in lower shabelle and their media covering 24/7 added to a great lies is their strategy to make the govt occuping itself in a banadir issues so they can get bigger!
At the moment, there are local conflicts in many pro-govt areas and camps and their should be a reason! They are exporting the conflict into them!
Lower shabelle governor siidi has threatened to take hard measures against the mayor of merka for being responsible of the recent war!
The mayor has started the war and now he's found some where out od marka and number 50 with his fleeying militias
On the other hand news are saying that the govt has deployed today new regional multi-forces in marka
Governor siidi to take hard messures soon against the spoilers. end the federalists proxy war!.

Re: lower shabelle conflict is a federalist strategy!
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:00 pm
by Even123
Brother Sahal interesting,
i even read an article that stated with facts, that Ahmed Madobe was funding and arming biyomaal, so that war may continue on s/hoose, they say that PM Abduweli was the one that gave Ahmed madobe the money and weapons originally!
Re: lower shabelle conflict is a federalist strategy!
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:04 pm
by original dervish
Federalism has won in Somalia.....the Govt is called sFg.....the constitution is called the federal constitution.....the country is called the Federal Republic of Somalia.
Game...set....and match sxb.

Re: lower shabelle conflict is a federalist strategy!
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:08 pm
by Even123
original dervish wrote:Federalism has won in Somalia.....the Govt is called sFg.....the constitution is called the federal constitution.....the country is called the Federal Republic of Somalia.
Game...set....and match sxb.

whats the Passport called?
Re: lower shabelle conflict is a federalist strategy!
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:21 pm
by The_Patriot
Coalition of Hutu Captured Marka to save HG being humiliated in Lower Shabelle.
They used heavy armour donated by Cumar neef Gelle to dislodge Biyomaal.
The Hawiye Govt in Xamar mission is to further push to Kismaayo in persuit of creating a Hutu emirates in the South.
Re: lower shabelle conflict is a federalist strategy!
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:31 pm
by Khalid Ali
Sahal is spot on ,,the Damuljadid wants to put the Somali federal constitution to a referendum in 2 years the wars and the confusions is to show the international community the donors particularly the US and the Europeans that the federal governance is not For Somalia for it will only create more animosities now under the pretext of showing good will and reconciling the clans the government of Somalia will try to gain momentum. The SFG is using its diplomatic leverage to reach out to the west to crush the federalist. Why do you think Nicolas kay and the interior minister are taking slow steps the show case what is happening and in the end the government will say a decentralized state is the only solution and give the clans in lower shabelle all equal share of the councilors of those regions.
Re: lower shabelle conflict is a federalist strategy!
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:32 pm
by sahal80
Even123 wrote:Brother Sahal interesting,
i even read an article that stated with facts, that Ahmed Madobe was funding and arming biyomaal, so that war may continue on s/hoose, they say that PM Abduweli was the one that gave Ahmed madobe the money and weapons originally!
Not sure that but its well known that the vacuum in lower shabelle will encourage many to march on the rest and will weaken all the allied troops around.
Re: lower shabelle conflict is a federalist strategy!
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:37 pm
by sahal80
Khalid Ali wrote:Sahal is spot on ,,the Damuljadid wants to put the Somali federal constitution to a referendum in 2 years the wars and the confusions is to show the international community the donors particularly the US and the Europeans that the federal governance is not For Somalia for it will only create more animosities now under the pretext of showing good will and reconciling the clans the government of Somalia will try to gain momentum. The SFG is using its diplomatic leverage to reach out to the west to crush the federalist. Why do you think Nicolas kay and the interior minister are taking slow steps the show case what is happening and in the end the government will say a decentralized state is the only solution and give the clans in lower shabelle all equal share of the councilors of those regions.
absolutely! .
Re: lower shabelle conflict is a federalist strategy!
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:38 pm
by Xildiiid
The_Patriot wrote:Coalition of Hutu Captured Marka to save HG being humiliated in Lower Shabelle.
They used heavy armour donated by Cumar neef Gelle to dislodge Biyomaal.
The Hawiye Govt in Xamar mission is to further push to Kismaayo in persuit of creating a Hutu emirates in the South.
Indeed wuxu waa neef.

Re: lower shabelle conflict is a federalist strategy!
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:46 am
by whitehartlane
Khalid Ali wrote:Sahal is spot on ,,the Damuljadid wants to put the Somali federal constitution to a referendum in 2 years the wars and the confusions is to show the international community the donors particularly the US and the Europeans that the federal governance is not For Somalia for it will only create more animosities now under the pretext of showing good will and reconciling the clans the government of Somalia will try to gain momentum. The SFG is using its diplomatic leverage to reach out to the west to crush the federalist. Why do you think Nicolas kay and the interior minister are taking slow steps the show case what is happening and in the end the government will say a decentralized state is the only solution and give the clans in lower shabelle all equal share of the councilors of those regions.
I believe that the federal train is long gone, this government has from day one made clear it's goals and targets to focus on. that was and still is to put to bed the whole federal game plan proposed crafted and executed by puntland. Unfortunately no darood will accept anything besides a federal government and reer baydaydhabo are the original creativity behind the proposal of the federal plan reer puntland just gave it a stage to perform and boy what a performance she gave.
Puntland is the queen of all federals, jubaland is also an internationally recognised federal region. Ina sheikh had one golden chance to keep the status quo ongoing and that was the claim of jubaland by D&m. He should have used their momentum to keep jubaland in a limbo like state. But even that has been put to bed. The only thing ina sheikh has managed to do is to prove to Somalis and the internationals that hawiye folks are not ready for a nationhood. Whether they are simply incapable or just dragging their feets is an another debate.
As for the -the somali federal idea, that is long gone mate.-
My understanding of the wars in shabeelaha hoose is that that since D&M have been granted a three region flagged state over a 6 state (that includes jubaland), hawiye and in particular the Habar gidir got running scared they may actually loose their stolen farms and properties. Their solution was obviously the creation of a war to prevent from shabeelaha hoose from having any chance to come under baydhaybo. Habar gidir are behind this war with ina sheikh being silenced just like he was silenced over Dahir Caways..
There is no other explanation for the recent bloodshed.