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hassan sheekh has received credentials of 48 ambassadors!

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In 20 months :gladbron: :som:

Who can do this?

That's what I call state man!
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sahal come on this is nothing to be showing off, this is not important when the 'central' govt controls only patches of territory between gaalkacyo and kenyan border
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Wtf is that a cause of celebration? They all want to loot somali resources you idiot
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It has less to do with Hassan Sheekh than the fact Somalia is "out of transition. " The US set the scene early when they recognized the first "non-transitional" government. Every other country wants to say they came in early when the country actually stabilizes and reconstruction contracts and investment opportunities are up for grabs.
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the republic

if you exclude somaliland, what does somalia consist of. basically mogadishu and a few towns controlled by the paper govt aka dawlad ku sheeg
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Somalia is officially up for sale, may the best bribe steal our resources and our people continue to suffer.

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The`Republic wrote:It has less to do with Hassan Sheekh than the fact Somalia is "out of transition. " The US set the scene early when they recognized the first "non-transitional" government. Every other country wants to say they came in early when the country actually stabilizes and reconstruction contracts and investment opportunities are up for grabs.
that's political naïveness!

Kala saar aqoonsiga iyo calaaqaadka! Aqoonsiga waa lagaa qadankaraa laakin waa inaad calaaqaad leedahay koo ilaa liya! Kaa lahadla marekanka! Etc

This thing has much to do with the CRD and dj relations starting from tarkey and qatar

It was turkey who broke the fear and moved to mogadishu

On the other hand the CRD backers such as the UK are following turkey!

Now there are two new worlds, the eastren europians countries for weapon transaction, two of them are now on the way and the gulf countries

All this is due to being politically smart and having continental relations.
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No it doesn't, you are just a propagandist for Hassan Sheikh. I don't even oppose Hassan Sheikh and I think he is misunderstood a lot, but the number has of credentials received has nothing to so with HSM or DJ per se (it could be anyone there) and more to do with the trajectory that has been set by the international community as a whole post-transition. Certainly Turkey was a catalyst, but Turkey became a catalyst during the transition and Sheikh Sharif. In fact the entire trajectory that was set during the big publicity of the Western world regarding the post-transition does in deed have to do with Turkey. All this predated Dj and HSM.

Somalia has been like a baby la koolkoolinayo since the new parliament was sworn in and after the two big Western boys (USA and UK) bestowed recognition for the post-transition the gear has been rolling.

In fact from every assessment out there particularly the US there is palpable disappointment with Hassan Sheikh. The national security report for Somalia presented to US State Department was scathing in its critique of HSM as an effective president. It called him weak and unable to take the post-transition to the next level. Yet couple months later the US said it will send the first full Ambassador?

These countries think strategically and long term, the present is expendable. Somalia is on a "koolkoolin" program. Yesterday they pushed ending the transition lavishing all support and confidence on Sheikh Sharif whom they distrusted and thought in effective---only because they were thinking long termand knew Sheikh Sharif could leave ttomorrow. Basically they hold their nose and continue to prod and push Somalia slowly and determinedly forward.

When the time comes, favors will be sought and influence will be gained by holding this time up as a loan.

You are just a backward third world propagandist who thinks too excitedly about the nuances of these developments.
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The`Republic wrote:No it doesn't, you are just a propagandist for Hassan Sheikh. I don't even oppose Hassan Sheikh and I think he is misunderstood a lot, but the number has of credentials received has nothing to so with HSM or DJ per se (it could be anyone there) and more to do with the trajectory that has been set by the international community as a whole post-transition. Certainly Turkey was a catalyst, but Turkey became a catalyst during the transition and Sheikh Sharif. In fact the entire trajectory that was set during the big publicity of the Western world regarding the post-transition does in deed have to do with Turkey. All this predated Dj and HSM.

Somalia has been like a baby la koolkoolinayo since the new parliament was sworn in and after the two big Western boys (USA and UK) bestowed recognition for the post-transition the gear has been rolling.

In fact from every assessment out there particularly the US there is palpable disappointment with Hassan Sheikh. The national security report for Somalia presented to US State Department was scathing in its critique of HSM as an effective president. It called him weak and unable to take the post-transition to the next level. Yet couple months later the US said it will send the first full Ambassador?

These countries think strategically and long term, the present is expendable. Somalia is on a "koolkoolin" program. Yesterday they pushed ending the transition lavishing all support and confidence on Sheikh Sharif whom they distrusted and thought in effective---only because they were thinking long termand knew Sheikh Sharif could leave ttomorrow. Basically they hold their nose and continue to prod and push Somalia slowly and determinedly forward.

When the time comes, favors will be sought and influence will be gained by holding this time up as a loan.

You are just a backward third world propagandist who thinks too excitedly about the nuances of these developments.
Lol I don't think so because besides I'm a good reader of the middle east and islamist politics, im well informed about the turkish story, firstly, it was shaykh sharif who chose turkey over the west and it wasn't a turkish initiative! Many politicians believe that it was one of the few good things sharif has ever done in his era. The westreners are like lawyers they care about their interests first says one of the mogadishu politicians in a non public meeting!

Take for example the talks with somaliland wich started in london, defo it would have been more for the interests of somaliland if sharif hadnt changed it to turkey bc it may had a legal bases also turkey are muslims who concentrate more on muslim interests wich the unity is one of them, the same goes for the constitution and the elders etc

Tukey has started in a humanitarian way, her agencies have arrived to feed the starving somalis

The other thing has to do with ala shaykh themselves who are ikhwans at the end, they wanted to send more students to turkey and asia unlike of these traditional politicians who don't know this business

Alashykh would use these students after in their bases

Under hassan sheek, turkey has involved more diplomatically, and geopolitically, they started helping him with monthly $4m just like qatar about $2m

This relationship with turkey and morsi who was planning to help somalia with a military aid has made the gulf countries worry about what's going on that why they opened their embassies too!

London is after turkey, all the diplomatical analysis agree with this!

Now this govt being a post-transition govt is not more than a vision, the president in post-2016 will have the real power and will lead the somalia that makes its decisions for itself like that of iraq and afganistan where no more a UN political office exists

Take an example of the new deal? It was based on the different new leadership not on being a post-transition govt and when they couldn't see any financial and security changes they stopped it!

There are even many agendas of making road map2 but the uk and the us are against it for what? For hassan sheekhs old ties with them!

Thus, every thing depends on his charisma

As for america changing its minds, that's not true. The man was an mp and a CIA officer he doesn't represent the state department who was saying a different stuff at the same time

But even if there were some doubts, it was fixed through diplomatic chanalles like djibouti wich again shows being initiated from mogadishu

The diplomatic world is based on the interests and these countries are after their interests having seen how many are landing so they can get their place!.

Next ambassador will come from eastren europe! See you then!.
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