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Somalia: Should President N. Kay resume official rule?

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Somalia has been under United Nations Trusteeship since 1st April 1950 following the defeat of Italy in World War 2. Somalia was and still remains unable to rule itself and the southern Bantus remain the same ever since they were brought to the land as slaves distant for the Arab World.

Today, the international policy makers are proposing that the UN resumes its official rule. It is already pretty much in control and makes all the decisions behind the curtains. Sheikh Hassan Niiko Mohamud remains a very symbolic figurehead but the true President is Nicholas Kay.

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Who should govern Somalia: Somalis or the UN?


Al-Shabaab's attack on Kenya over the past two nights, in which more than 60 were killed, shows the group still poses serious threat to the region's stability, writes Jamal Osman.

Last week the UN Special Representative for Somalia, Nicholas Kay spoke at Chatham House. The talk was about the country's successes and the difficulties it faces: the role of the UN mission in Somalia (Unsom) and the "political in-fighting within the government".

But there's in-fighting elsewhere that he would have been unlikely to mention: the power struggle between the UN and the current government. It comes down to who should govern Somalia: Somalis or foreigners?

Mr Kay is seen as the most powerful man in the country. He is accused of undermining the government, siding with Somalia's archenemies, Ethiopia and Kenya, blackmailing and threatening those who oppose him, including the president, and generally using divide-and-rule tactics.

Responding to the allegations, Aleem Siddique, Unsom spokesperson said: "The United Nations is mandated to support and help co-ordinate international assistance for Somalia's state and peace building efforts.

"This is a critical year for Somalia. The people have set themselves an ambitious agenda for reform. Unsom is committed to supporting these efforts, guided by the principles of Somali ownership and leadership to restore peace and stability for all Somali people."

With no functioning central authority caused by the country's two-decade-long war, most local administrations receive some sort of financial or military support from foreign entities. Therefore, as a matter of fact, non-Somalis have leverage in the country.

'Yes men'

For instance, the current central government in Mogadishu cannot survive without the backing of the African Union forces, which is part of a UN mission.

Relying on external actors means that, in Somalia, all want to have influence. The main players are the UN, the US, the EU, international NGOs, the African Union, neighbouring countries, Arab nations and Turkey, a relative newcomer.

In public, all of them say they have the same vision, but the reality is that they have their own agendas and interests, which at times collide.

Abukar Arman, a writer and former Somali diplomat thinks the whole problem is that "there is no clear demarcation of executive authority" between top two Somali leaders and also amongst key international bodies.

"So, it boiled down to a game of diplomatic stare down that sidelines the one who blinks first. Meanwhile, the Somali government functions within said power dynamic and blinks on most occasions."

But some believe that the current leaders want to look different to their predecessors, whom the Somali public regarded as "yes men".

The local media often analysis Mr Kay's appearances, speeches and photo-shoots with foreign players. And people become suspicious when he's pictured comfortably sitting with Ethiopian or Kenyan leaders, Somalia's foes.

What's more, Somalis are uneasy with the UN man speaking on behalf of them on international arenas, especially when there is a government that should be playing that role.

Senior government officials told me that they have even considered filing an official complaint against the UN man in the hope of changing him.

'Decades of bloodshed'

Somalia faces numerous obstacles in its desire to end decades of bloodshed. Some are obvious, others not. Current leaders accept they cannot achieve progress without outside help.

But they would like to claim some sort of ownership of the process. They also feel that the very people who were supposed to support them are sabotaging the system for their own sake.

As Mr Arman puts it, there are "some influential elements - domestic and foreign profiteers - who are hell-bent on keeping business as usual".

Meanwhile, ordinary Somali citizens who suffer most are holding onto their hope for a better tomorrow. It's those civilians that decision makers should be thinking about.
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I will take Snet serious when this Xabash monkey is banned. Khalid aka Hawdian aka i'maslaveforTigray get a real job!
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^^ I am not the one who made the topic aniga ha igu walaaan eeh Hawdian iska celi, Hebel hala ban gereyo sheeko maha eh :P
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Aabo nicholas :lol:
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Sad state of affairs for the konfurians. Don't get mad when someone points outour problems. You might not like to hear the truth but pretending it's not there won't make it go away.
God doesn't change a people's situation until they change themselves. Warlordism to extremism and now back to tribalism. The way I see it you got 2 choice's back to being human bridges or godanes long arm of the law.
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The Konfuris aka UN-Trusteeship seem to be avoiding the cold truth. They rather hide behind other issues. President Nicolas Kay is not interested stopping the wars in Shabelle for example because the more his governor (Hassan Niiko Qoslaye) is challenged the more he consolidates his power.

Khalid ignore those angry UN-Trusteeshipians.
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I love this guy Hawdian :lol: :lol: :lol: wale your always putting these guys in their place :clap:
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I don't like Hawdian's motives but he is absolutely right, the south is a disgrace. UN governs you, AU defends you, Turkey develops your lands and cities and now you've gone back to tribal fighting. Why get angry at the truth?
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:I don't like Hawdian's motives but he is absolutely right, the south is a disgrace. UN governs you, AU defends you, Turkey develops your lands and cities and now you've gone back to tribal fighting. Why get angry at the truth?

And dont forget Ethiopia and Kenya reconciles you under IGAD :oops:
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Those fokerz are as occupied as Ogaden and Hassan Niiko is no different than waiter boy Ina Iley. It's funny how they all up high on pedestal. I love their empty bravado.

They talk about unity as if its a religion but yet they can't unify the warlord in Wardhiigley with the one in Karaan for example.

That's why I love spitting on them because they are not in touch with the reality. You see, they can't even reply to this revelation. Complete silence.
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Hawdian wrote:Those fokerz are as occupied as Ogaden and Hassan Niiko is no different than waiter boy Ina Iley. It's funny how they all up high on pedestal. I love their empty bravado.

They talk about unity as if its a religion but yet they can't unify the warlord in Wardhiigley with the one in Karaan for example.

That's why I love spitting on them because they are not in touch with the reality. You see, they can't even reply to this revelation. Complete silence.
I don't support hassan.. but sadly I disagree atleast he bulit xamar, but on the other hand, you live life like a hunted rabbit.. Gain talaax lose Taalaax and then lose again, it have been going on for a long time.. which country suffers from those kind of problems..

I wouldn't be surprised if the somaliland flag grows Ciro out of stress... :lol: :lol: you can't even keep the desert! moving back and forward is why you never reached your goal.. :lol:

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Somali-Transport,

That was weak. I will give you second go to do better. TAKE SCENE...

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By the way the few projects were built by the Turks and foreign NGOs. Hassan is unable to go to the toilet without AMISOM.
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Hawdian wrote:Somali-Transport,

That was weak. I will give you second go to do better. TAKE SCENE...

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By the way the few projects were built by the Turks and foreign NGOs. Hassan is unable to go to the toilet without AMISOM.
Thanks for the second go!

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