Legalize weed and ban qaad in SL/Somalia
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Legalize weed and ban qaad in SL/Somalia
A huge portion of Somalia's, Somaliland's and Djiboutis money flows into ethiopia and kenya's pockets thanks to this curse. It has no benefits and causes major social/health problems and can even affect the next generation of somalis thanks to it's negative effects on sperm. Not only that but it's a hard crop to grow and therefore cheaper to buy than produce. It also promotes a culture of laziness and ciyaalsuuqnimo because it literally takes hours to take effect - aside from Heroin and Meth, it is one of the dirtiest drugs (Have your seen a marfrish?!). I don't smoke or take drugs, nor do I promote it. However, if your going to do something wrong, at least do it right. Why not invest and farm Cannibis farms and plantations and have government regulated cannibis cigarette producers. It can also be grown by the individual with the right tools. All they would need is a government permit. It can be used causally in cofee-shops and in the home with it wasting your time at a marfrish sitting in filth. Why is posession of Cannibis punishable offence but qaad which has literally destroyed families and bleeds us dry financially is tolerated and even promoted?
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Re: Legalize weed and ban qaad in SL/Somalia
ive been told there was one time in xamar recently all the shops had no products, everything was bought up, cause there was no khad in the market
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When did you give smoking
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?Cherine wrote:When did you give smoking
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You did make a post here, in which you said you smoke cigarettes...mabruuk if you managed to kick this habit. 

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Oh yeah I quit that stuff I think a year ago. I figured the light buzz I get from smoking isn't worth getting bronchitis and cancer for. I still smoke a cigar now and then, but that's very rare.
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This drug is like a curse, almost as bad as alcohol and notice how only the most impoverishment and tribal countries are stricken by it.
A ban would cause it to go underground and large scale enforcement would be too much of a drain on the limited resources and money of the government. Also its a staple of somali daily life, a ban would probably bring armed Resistance. Also unless this is in the constitution then the next government which is of a different party will campaign to get the law removed.
Taxing the drug would be best option as it will bring money and will discourage the purchase of the drug.
A ban would cause it to go underground and large scale enforcement would be too much of a drain on the limited resources and money of the government. Also its a staple of somali daily life, a ban would probably bring armed Resistance. Also unless this is in the constitution then the next government which is of a different party will campaign to get the law removed.
Taxing the drug would be best option as it will bring money and will discourage the purchase of the drug.
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For some reason, Somalis tend to have a very addictive personality. While you know I support a qat ban and will throw personal resources behind this endeavor, I don't think weed is the answer for Somalis....just because these men will destroy even more lives because of it.
I know many guys here who smoke weed, and they're the same type of guys who sit at asr to chew. So....I don't see it making much a difference. Where qat as you said takes hours to kick in, PLUS needs hours (sitting somewhere, social aspect, and you buy a large bundle that just cannot be consumed as fast as a spliff)...plus being high doesn't last as long as the high from chewing. Also weed does not have nearly as many health hazards, aside from the theory that it causes paranoia and schizophrenia (both of which have not yet been proved), its almost healthy compared to qat.
So while theoretically it IS better that weed be the drug of choice vs qat (not saying it's better, but for the above reasons, yes its a less evil alternative), it still wouldn't change the fact that Somalis are stupid, lazy and will waste their lives away on anything that is easily accessible.
BTW would the arid Somali climate even allow for weed crops?
I know many guys here who smoke weed, and they're the same type of guys who sit at asr to chew. So....I don't see it making much a difference. Where qat as you said takes hours to kick in, PLUS needs hours (sitting somewhere, social aspect, and you buy a large bundle that just cannot be consumed as fast as a spliff)...plus being high doesn't last as long as the high from chewing. Also weed does not have nearly as many health hazards, aside from the theory that it causes paranoia and schizophrenia (both of which have not yet been proved), its almost healthy compared to qat.
So while theoretically it IS better that weed be the drug of choice vs qat (not saying it's better, but for the above reasons, yes its a less evil alternative), it still wouldn't change the fact that Somalis are stupid, lazy and will waste their lives away on anything that is easily accessible.
BTW would the arid Somali climate even allow for weed crops?
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Estarix wrote:This drug is like a curse, almost as bad as alcohol and notice how only the most impoverishment and tribal countries are stricken by it.
A ban would cause it to go underground and large scale enforcement would be too much of a drain on the limited resources and money of the government. Also its a staple of somali daily life, a ban would probably bring armed Resistance. Also unless this is in the constitution then the next government which is of a different party will campaign to get the law removed.
Taxing the drug would be best option as it will bring money and will discourage the purchase of the drug.
Taxing would be a short-term solution. The best way would be to heabily tax it for a perio of time, say 5 years. Each year the tax would increase. Afterwards a blanket ban on it would be enforced. Somalis don't give a fck about constitution. The ban should be enforced with brutal crackdown on the sale and smuggling by handing out a shoot to kill order for border patrol and all those in possession would be sent to labour-camps for a number of years. So what if the populace don't like it? Should we then endulge their drug-addiction? Aside from tribalism and corrruption, the big problem in SL/Somalia is malaise and a lack of will-power.
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Regardless of any adverse effects from Cannibis, the problems of qaad are infinitely worse. I would rather have the lesser of the two evils. Not all of Somalia is arid. Hemp and Cannibis are resilient plants which can grow in most places with bit of help. Hemp can be used to make ropes, clothes, sandals etc as well as building material. The Somali climate is more than suitable. Smoking weed is like smoking a cigarette. It doesn't take too much of your time. Combine the lack of qaad with government initiatives to re-educate and make the public, particularly the youth and qaad can be effectively combatted. Also providing proper jobs and effective education to the population would make qaad a less desirable pastime.EvolSyawla wrote:For some reason, Somalis tend to have a very addictive personality. While you know I support a qat ban and will throw personal resources behind this endeavor, I don't think weed is the answer for Somalis....just because these men will destroy even more lives because of it.
I know many guys here who smoke weed, and they're the same type of guys who sit at asr to chew. So....I don't see it making much a difference. Where qat as you said takes hours to kick in, PLUS needs hours (sitting somewhere, social aspect, and you buy a large bundle that just cannot be consumed as fast as a spliff)...plus being high doesn't last as long as the high from chewing. Also weed does not have nearly as many health hazards, aside from the theory that it causes paranoia and schizophrenia (both of which have not yet been proved), its almost healthy compared to qat.
So while theoretically it IS better that weed be the drug of choice vs qat (not saying it's better, but for the above reasons, yes its a less evil alternative), it still wouldn't change the fact that Somalis are stupid, lazy and will waste their lives away on anything that is easily accessible.
BTW would the arid Somali climate even allow for weed crops?
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I agree, people need 10 min max for weed vs a whole afternoon/night for chewing.
I wish it didn't need to be combated, but like we're both saying, yes, weed is the better alternative by far. What I mean is that, even with proper education and public service initiatives, I dont think Somalis would know how to control their urges or their financial capabilities to afford weed, like their issues with qat.
I wish it didn't need to be combated, but like we're both saying, yes, weed is the better alternative by far. What I mean is that, even with proper education and public service initiatives, I dont think Somalis would know how to control their urges or their financial capabilities to afford weed, like their issues with qat.
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Cannabis is a toxic drug. I know many people whose lives were ruined by cannabis,some ending up in mental hospitals. Khat is another evil drug. Banning in Somalia would be good,but unlikely to happen in our lifetime.
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Weed requires a lot of water and sunshine and care to cultivate. So even if hypothetically Somalis all switched to that from qat overnight, they would still be almost totally dependent on Ethiopian, the land of 13 months of sunshine and fertile highlands. It might accidentally make things even worse, with everybody turning Rastafarian and becoming even lazier. At least qatheads are very active in short bursts. Imagine a nation of 24/7 sluggish bums worshipping Haile Selassie instead.
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Smoking weed and eating on some hilib geel and ari and washing it down with caano geel that'd be the life man.





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Of course you'd be worried for your xabashi masters. But weed is still much easier to grow than qaad and with government liscensing and regulation it would be very hard for xabash to profit aside from smuggling which would carry heavy penalty for it's sale and use. Why would a somali buy illegal stuff when he could do it legally and cheaply from government subsidized farmers and vendors? Not everyone thinks like an cagdheer.Gabre wrote:Weed requires a lot of water and sunshine and care to cultivate. So even if hypothetically Somalis all switched to that from qat overnight, they would still be almost totally dependent on Ethiopian, the land of 13 months of sunshine and fertile highlands. It might accidentally make things even worse, with everybody turning Rastafarian and becoming even lazier. At least qatheads are very active in short bursts. Imagine a nation of 24/7 sluggish bums worshipping Haile Selassie instead.
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