Example Of Somalia's Zero Sum Game

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Example Of Somalia's Zero Sum Game

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Look at the Federalism issue:



HG will never accept the 3 region Southwest State
MJ will never accept 2 region Central state because they don't wanna give up half of the town
Jubba there will always be issues



Again being that we're the scum of the earth we'll always be at this stalemate until the end of time because of our caaqnimo.
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Murax wrote:Look at the Federalism issue:



HG will never accept the 3 region Southwest State
MJ will never accept 2 region Central state because they don't wanna give up half of the town
Jubba there will always be issues



Again being that we're the scum of the earth we'll always be at this stalemate until the end of time because of our caaqnimo.
You nailed it sxb...

The old guard have failed the country we need the fresh generations who wasen't raised as true somalis like the old guard.. with different values and thoughts
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Re: Example Of Somalia's Zero Sum Game

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Who ever created Qabiil federalism knew that the conflict will rage on for years to come knowing the sensitivity among Somalis its very sad but there is no other options somalis detest each other
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Murax,
why do you care about Xamar, southwest state and what happens there??
Build your Jubaland, and alternate the PM post with Puntland every few years :lol:
Walahi the biggest problem facing our people is that we put our nose where it does not belong.
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Re: Example Of Somalia's Zero Sum Game

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thegoodshepherd wrote:Murax,
why do you care about Xamar, southwest state and what happens there??
Build your Jubaland, and alternate the PM post with Puntland every few years :lol:
Walahi the biggest problem facing our people is that we put our nose where it does not belong.
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That's the definition of zero sum. You're only as strong as Your weakest link. Somalia will not join the world until the entire Country stablizes. You cannot have parts of the Country burning and the other 'stable'. In addition roads have to be built crisscrossing the country and domestic trade needs to take place. If the Country stablizes, oil is discovered tomorrow and Somalia joints the 21st Century How will You feel if all that is blocked because of half a town here, or something like that. This isn't just directed at Puntland but all of us. We should really aspire to be more than little Ethiopian/Kenyan controlled ghettos but a modern, industrialized nation that has full 100% sovereign control of its land.
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Re: Example Of Somalia's Zero Sum Game

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Somalis are hopeless, why must one look beyond this forum to test what is inevitable, even in a close confined social platform such as Snet we're at each others throats what makes those back home any different. Civilized or otherwise Somalia will continue being world's landfill, My 2 cents for the day.:lol:
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Thegoodshepherd doesn't see the ramifications in the long term, you cant have bantustans with an Amisom protected government with no real power in the country the country will never prosper. The country will only continue to bleed and will be a nation with out people. Economically the bantustan states can never progress with out the assistance of a government that works that secures the political and economic interest of the country. But today the government are crooks that just want to get rich , and the federalists just want to be the kings over their tribal homelands and piss on the other enemy clans , Tit FOR tat
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Re: Example Of Somalia's Zero Sum Game

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Khalid Ali wrote: Economically the bantustan states can never progress
What is the difference between Puntland and Somaliland in terms of economic development??

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Re: Example Of Somalia's Zero Sum Game

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Somaliland to can never really progress aslong as it is tight to Somalia diplomatically , Somaliland has the biggest livestock trade market in the horn of Africa ,Somaliland budget alone is 5 times the size of that of PL , Somaliland has more small scale factories than the entire Somalia combined let alone Puntland even that for international standards and African standards to Somaliland is shit , reason why there is incompetency in SL leadership and ofcourse we are tight to the most failed state in the African continent.

But you should adress muraxs point stop focusing on SL , adress muraxs point why should he not care about xamar isnt xamar SOMALIA part of the country
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Re: Example Of Somalia's Zero Sum Game

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Bottom line is no matter what we do, think or say When You go around the world all You have is Your name and Your name is Somali. As much as We may feel a clan identity inside the bottom line is it is irrelevant in the world context. We cannot go back to the 1950's and redraw the borders and make very clan a State. We need to figure out a way to work together because its 2014 and the world is passing us by. Our seat at the UN is as Somali. Our seat at the Arab League is as Somali. Our seat at the Organization of Islamic Countries is as Islamic, our seat at the African Union is as Somali. More important Somali is the language You speak. Lets get the memo and realize that the failure of any part of Somalia is a failure to us all. Lets quit the crab mentality.



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