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These movements have failed on Muslims and Islam , I don't understand what they stand for except hurming the population , unrest and displcing civilians from their homes just as We are witnessing IS in Iraq , We have to ask why is the population fleeing , there are many verses in the holy Qur'an warning us of not to displace people from their homes , yet you don't know what kind of religion are this groups advocating , surely if you have an isseoue and a goal you must do the right things if you want to address your grievences you need the population and that you ought to be careful not to harm irrespective of their religion and creed that is how you win people over but not by force and dictatorship.

Be quiet, atleast those groups are trying to do something

This is one of the main reasons youth leave islam by the thousands. Islam will either evolve, change and adapt to the 21st century or it will completely perish in the next few decades. this is how christianity survived for so long. and muslims should take notes if they want their religion to survive in this time and age

thehappyone wrote:Be quiet, atleast those groups are trying to do something

What is that 'something they do' that impresses you? Give us examples.

All these groups are responses to oppression whether its AMISOM in Somalia, Assad in Syria, Shias in Iraq, they are all self defence.

grandpakhalif wrote:All these groups are responses to oppression whether its AMISOM in Somalia, Assad in Syria, Shias in Iraq, they are all self defence.

How about their sister organisations like Boko Haram, who oppresses them?

Watch this

Machiavelli2 wrote:

grandpakhalif wrote:All these groups are responses to oppression whether its AMISOM in Somalia, Assad in Syria, Shias in Iraq, they are all self defence.

How about their sister organisations like Boko Haram, who oppresses them?

Nigerian Christians

^ classic denial

grandpakhalif wrote:

Machiavelli2 wrote:

grandpakhalif wrote:All these groups are responses to oppression whether its AMISOM in Somalia, Assad in Syria, Shias in Iraq, they are all self defence.

How about their sister organisations like Boko Haram, who oppresses them?

Nigerian Christians

Since the Nigerian army is on lock for Muslim officers, what did they do to Muslim Nigerians? These groups punish Muslims more than they do punish others.

visious wrote:This is one of the main reasons youth leave islam by the thousands. Islam will either evolve, change and adapt to the 21st century or it will completely perish in the next few decades. this is how christianity survived for so long. and muslims should take notes if they want their religion to survive in this time and age

But more and more Christians are leaving their faith to become atheists, agnostics, etc. There are fewer Christians now than at anytime in the past. Yours isn't a survival plan.

visious wrote:This is one of the main reasons youth leave islam by the thousands. Islam will either evolve, change and adapt to the 21st century or it will completely perish in the next few decades. this is how christianity survived for so long. and muslims should take notes if they want their religion to survive in this time and age

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Christianity is dying a slow painful death.

Islam is/was the fastest growing religion but irreligion is the fastest growing "belief system" in the world right now.

visious wrote:Islam is/was the fastest growing religion but irreligion is the fastest growing "belief system" in the world right now.

Islam is set to hit 2.2 billion followers by 2030 and will accord for over 25% of the Worlds population. Muslims were only a mere 1.1 billion in 1990. Doubling in population in 40 years is an outstanding feat.

Irreligion maybe the fastest growing "belief system" but that's due to more people leaving Christianity and other religions. For every one of you and Ayan Hersi who leaves, there are 2 or 3 who are embracing Islam. Contrary to what you believe Islam will not perish it will only grow and gain power.

Look if it wasn't for the death penalty / imprisonment for apostasy in many muslim countries . You will be shocked at how many people who are leaving islam and coming out.

those christians live in countries which are secular and will be protected by their constitutions .

Do you think it is safe for a person to claim atheism in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Somalia , Afghanistan etc?

trust me when I say that there are same number of people leaving islam as there are people leaving christianity.