Passing on the Qabil gene

[SultanOrder]

We all come from a generation that have witnessed the worse qabil has to offer. Our parents living as adults through this time have developed and reinforced latent qabilism that have always existed in our people. To where it seeped into everyday life away from politics to how we marry, where we live, who to make friends with, etc. This is especially true for our parents generation. But nevertheless they have passed it on to us considering the fact we are first generation and have a strong connection to our culture in the midst of the new one we are shaping here.

The funny thing about qabil is that no one is free from discrimination. One group is always discriminating against another. We have all heard "dad la yaqaano keen". And where you would think it would stop at the Darood, Hawiye, Isaaq, etc, level, or even the sub clan level, it doesn't. You will find discrimination against people you share the same sub sub sub sub sub sub sub sub level because such and such a group had a fight with your great grandad.


Now we can never truly inherit our parents experiences that shaped their prejudices though they have some influence on us, but what about the generation that truly belongs to the diaspora? The ones that are being raised by parents that speak better English, Sweedish, etc, than Somali? Are we going to continue to divide a community within a community? Or will we raise the fist generation that truly sees being Somali as just enough?

[MissFiora]

Runta maa rabtaa? Take a look around this forum .. majority of us ( excluding odayaasha parading as young'ns ) have proven that the cudur that is qabiil is prevalent and alive. Being Somali will never be enough for those individuals who have been raised in households where qabiil is not just something attached to your identity, but rather its a tool used to assert your superiority over others. Now, in the future these sick individuals will transmit the cudur to their children .. your Farax Jr who u taught that Somalinimo is enough will have an encounter with Abdi jr whose father taught him that because he is from Reer Laf Adhi his sh!t don't stink.

I say we forget cultivating a sense of Somalinimo in our future children and focus on helping them develop an Islamic identity.

[SultanOrder]

I don't think that an Islamic identity should be used to delete our Somali identity. Because your child who has an Islamic identity will meet another Islamic child of a different background and will be discriminated based on his Somali background.

Besides why erase such a rich culture as ours because we have some negatives? At the same time we see how people are abusing the Islamic identity to recruit kids to fight in far off wars.

Basically, I don't think running away from the problem is the solution. At the same time, what I'm really speaking about is are you going to pass it on, will you say to your child don't marry from such and such?

[GeoSeven]

I doubt any of our kids will have a care for qabiil. Right now, qabyaalad is reinforced to a great degree because qabiil is an official bloody political constituency in Somalia. I don't think even the majority of snetters genuinely bother with clan outside of it's political context.

[Lillaahiya]

I'm gonna teach my kids my qolo and abtirsin and indoctrinate them to believe that their mother hails from boqortooyada Isaaq. Best belee dat.

[Hibonuraa]

I'm gonna teach my kids my qolo and abtirsin and indoctrinate them to believe that their mother hails from boqortooyada Isaaq. Best belee dat.

lol fariid walle

[waraabe251]

I'm gonna teach my kids my qolo and abtirsin and indoctrinate them to believe that their mother hails from boqortooyada Isaaq. Best belee dat.

*while doing the birdman hand rub

[SyntaX]

I don't think that an Islamic identity should be used to delete our Somali identity. Because your child who has an Islamic identity will meet another Islamic child of a different background and will be discriminated based on his Somali background.

Besides why erase such a rich culture as ours because we have some negatives? At the same time we see how people are abusing the Islamic identity to recruit kids to fight in far off wars.

Basically, I don't think running away from the problem is the solution. At the same time, what I'm really speaking about is are you going to pass it on, will you say to your child don't marry from such and such?

Islamic identity should ideally come before your Somali identity imo. That said I don't think your Islamic identity can be used to erase your Somali identity. I grew up in Europe and have never set foot in Somalia. I was completely oblivious to Qabiils until I interacted with other Somalis who also grew up in Europe. My brother who's only a year older than me ran into a grown ass man once. This was in a convenience store in Dubai and my brother was only 11 years old. The Somali man asked him who he was and he replied giving his first name only (lol). The guy responded with "abaha wa kuma?" My brother explained that we were visitors and he wouldn't have known my dad. The guy continued to interrogate him for what qabiil he belonged to, where he's from and why he's here. I thought the guy being extremely hostile for no reason whatsoever. The sad part of this is that there were a lot of grown ass men around and no one thought of telling him to lay off the kid. That was I suppose his first redpill on qabiil. It was way over my head and I was painfully oblivious to tribalism even in my teenage years however my brother has been aware of the importance and relevancy of qabiil since a young age. As I'm growing older the relevancy of qabiil is becoming more and more important to me. Everything that I have learned from tribalism has been from other Somalis. I think qabiil has its place in Somalia at the moment. The problem is people running around with an inferiority complex and having the need to express their disdain for other qabiils. Tribalism is going to be very much alive for a long time. I don't condone discriminating against other qabiils but I think its fine to stick with your own. If I ever have a daughter I'll be very uncomfortable with her marrying someone from a different clan.

[GeoSeven]

I'm gonna teach my kids my qolo and abtirsin and indoctrinate them to believe that their mother hails from boqortooyada Isaaq. Best belee dat.

Coming from one of the few actives users I have never seen make any reference to qabiil. Wouldn't believe that if you held a gun to my head.

[SultanOrder]

Geo, I don't think in Somalia that politics will not revolve around qabil, even the arabs have qabyaalad.

@ layla, yar aan ilma adeer nahay ba la socoto yar isaaq ah, I was like "ma hada isaaq ino keenaysa, waliba midka ugu laangaabsan." Yarka arap. My kids will have no chance.

On a serious note, I think we will become like the Italians or Irish, who were deeply divided people, reer naoles v reer sicily v reer roma v reer Milan, and now if you have an Italian last name they come together like jersey Shore.

[quark]

Forget about the current generation, just don't raise your kids with this primitive shit

[Xildiiid]

My parents never uttered a word about qabiil from the time I was growing up to now.


I'll do the same when I have children of my own one day.

I will let them learn it by themselves and hopefully they will use their brain to differentiate between qabiil and qabyaalad.

[Amira143]

Forget about the current generation, just don't raise your kids with this primitive shit

Agree! Looks like we are a failed generation too let's raise our kids qabil hared free and Somalia might just have a chance.

[Lillaahiya]

I'm gonna teach my kids my qolo and abtirsin and indoctrinate them to believe that their mother hails from boqortooyada Isaaq. Best belee dat.

Coming from one of the few actives users I have never seen make any reference to qabiil. Wouldn't believe that if you held a gun to my head.

I pick my battles wisely

PO: lol @ ugu laangaabsan. The irony is that you started this topic Islaa xishow.

[Xildiiid]

^

Lmao, ninku malaa ma miyir qabo.


PO is a qabiilist at heart laakin waa dadka qarsada.