Xildiid soo gal

[SultanOrder]

I already told you.. If that white cunt manage to establish an office in Hargeisa or anywhere else in the country it will be the death of Kulmiye.

Here is the SL Minister to UN saying that there has been offices in SL though he down plays the political aspects in favor for the humanitarian aspects. Nevertheless he clearly admits that everything was and is part of the UNPOS which goes under Nicholas Kay. He says "innagu marwalbo waan ka tirsanahay xaafiisadahan hargeisa joogo ee asagu maamulo [Kay].....waynu ku jirna labada qaybood uu maamulo[Political and Humanitarian]"



SL has realized they have to deal with the hard realities of an organization like the UN which has strict rules on how they deal with non recognized entities. If they want the benefits of the UN they have no choice but to deal with UNPOS, and I'm glad it only took them a year to realize this.

[Xildiiid]

Hopefully it will be the death of Qudhmiye.


Apart from the politicians who's benefiting from the UN? No one..

You're glad because you think this will make Somaliland part of the federal bs but it won't.

[SultanOrder]

The real question is, is there even going to be much of a back lash let alone any? I doubt it.

As for me, I don't think it changes anything with the relationship between SFG and SL. I didn't really see the benefit in telling Mr Kay not to come back in the first place but I thought it had more to do with internal politics rather than pushing SL sovereignty. Remember that Siilaanyo got a lot of flak by the opposition for having anything to do with Somalia for little to nothing in return. He decided not to go to the second London conference after going to the first one and the New Deal conference was in the horizon.

[Xildiiid]

I don't expect much from the opposition parties.

Apart from the useless politicians in SL, Somalia is also benefiting from this. Kay gives them a sense of legitimacy that they never had before and our leaders doesn't see that which is unfortunate.

In my eyes Key is a Somali politician representing Somalia.

[SultanOrder]

This is a series of questions asked by some horn cable reporters to Nicholas Kay. If you listen to the second question about how he sees SL as part of Somalia, he says honestly that this is the political reality of the situation. This is not new to SL or the SFG in Mogadishu. Therefore, this is not a win or lose for either entity. But it was a lose for SL for kicking out the SL hence why they reversed their decision. Remember that the political reality is greater than SFG, SL, and Nicholas Kay. Kay is just doing the job he was assigned to do.

I think I have said this before but the politicians in Somalia don't really care about things that are really out of their control. If the UN decides to recognize SL there isn't much they can do, and this idea that they are constantly trying to undermine SL is exaggerated. At least this is my view.

Also, I don't think SL will gain anything fun an isolationist policy.

[Xildiiid]

It's unfortunate to see grown men like the foreign minister and these reporters showing their ignorance about the history of SL and the different phases it went through.

1884-1960 (protectorate)

1960-1991 (post independence/illegal union - the liberation struggle)

1991- (present day Somaliland)

Somalilanders only need to use the first phase of our country's history to disprove Walaweyns and their masters (AU,UN)

Unfortunately, modern day Somalilanders are accepting two contradictory beliefs as correct because of the incompetence and ignorance of our leaders.

The two being;

1. Somaliland was a separate country that gained independence June 26, 1960.

2. Somaliland was part of Somalia.

Logically this is impossible and I've put forth my arguments in other threads which no one to this day has been able disprove.

Now.. the question and most importantly the scenarios presented in that video are false dilemmas. Premises built on the false notion that Somaliland was part of Somalia leads to invalid arguments.

Sometimes a false premise and false argument can lead to a true conclusion but in this case it doesn't because there is no logical validity.

People can say what they want about the late Cigaal but he knew how to deal with these parasites representing the international mafia.

Kay shouldn't put his pale feet on our soil let alone open an office. Kay is also representing the UN protectorate Somalia, so in other words he's a Somali politician representing Somalia and their interests and therefore should be treated as such.

Politicians in Somalia always try their best to undermine Somaliland, to say that they don't "care" about Somaliland is ridiculous.

SL need to distance itself from Somalia. We don't have the same culture and mentality so there's nothing to discuss.

[jalaaludin5]

horta wiilkan yar ee xildiid...you keep talking about somaliland been a separate country and was not part of Somalia.

So you using the colonizers blueprint against your fellow somalis?

Somaliland was part of Somalia cos soomali dhulka wey wada dagaan. Just because the white man came and put lines to divide us doesn't meant you have to use what was meant to be used as your noose as an argument.

What a disgusting way to go separate while having the Tawheed on your flag.

remove the tawheed from the flag waryaa or watch the wrath of Allah come down like a tone of bricks on that house of card called SL.

[Xildiiid]

Somaliland was never part of Somalia. If you oppose, disprove it.

Btw, you shouldn't speak about the white man who happen to control Djibouti to this day.

Somaliland precedes the current flag. So the religion card doesn't work here matter of fact I hope the Islamic creed is removed from our flag. State and religion are two seperate things and munaafaqs like yourself won't be able to use this invalid argument.

Fellow Somalis? Waxba nagama dhexeeyaan dadkaas, only a name that doesn't mean shit.

[jalaaludin5]

Can you prove that Somaliland wasnt part of somalia before the white man came?

Your argument is a double edge sword you clown, that cuts both ways.

1. Somali dhulkey degaan ayuu the white man kalaqaybiyay.

2. Somaliland wax la yira ma jirin before the white man.

3. And you can argue that there was no such thing as somalia before the white man came, but at least the Somalia that was created after the union was one that encompassed all the lands inhabited by Somalis and the hope/dream was to unite it all.


Your stupidity knows no bound walaahi.

You are the man that was partly responsible for the creation of Somalia and the mother flag (blue flag). You were glad to see the back of the colonisers and happy to be united with your fellow Somalis. It didn't work out so you think abandoning the flag and using the very same man you were happy to part ways with is the way to greener pastures.


Listening to nicholas kay in that video above, and watching his body language is enough for one to say fock recognition, lets deal with our brothers in the south.

Basically what he said was,...forget nearly 25 years of running your affairs better than internationally recognised states, indhaha haduu dhig idinka yimaado there is no recognition until we see fit.

I believe that everything somaliland worked for will be undone by this sick pursuit of recognition from people who wouldn't piss in your mouth if your throat was on fire.

Tell me how do you feel when you use pictures of the famine in the south to score points then turn on HCTV only to see English cade giving you the finger on behalf of the UN, iyo beesha reer galbeed?

[Khalid Ali]

Perfect order Somaliland will not allow the UNSOM office in Hargeysa the SL government made that clear SL just invited Kay for the UN development program in the country. Kay made that clear him self.



Jaalaaludin devils advocate we created Somali republic and we teared it apart and took our piece there was no Somali state before 1884 we were never united with the walanweyns before 1960s we never shared a single administration not prior to colonialism and not now. i know you hate Somaliland for seeking recogntion you are like the enemy of SL who try to ridicule SL for not having recognition, but its not in our hand and we will do everything to secure our interest and piss over other Somalis we simply dont care, there is zero affection i would even collude with uhuro and give him more Somali seas belonging to walanweyns

[jalaaludin5]

What i hate is mindless morons who think without recognition Somaliland is doomed.

What i hate is little kids who are poisoned by qabyaalad pretending they speak for the whole of Somaliland.

But most importantly what i hate is people who think they can use Isaq to do all sorts of nonesense or who think beesha reer sheikh Isaxaaq oo dhan thinbk the same focked up way as you do.

You so silly you dont even know what you write.
You insult the south been a UN AMISOM run hell hole but who are you seeking your recognition from? The UN.

You are so delusional you believe your history started from the British arrival and your whole argument is based on that focking painful part of our history.

You are no focking different than a house nigger arguing with a field nigger while using the amount of attention he receives from his white maste...loool....

sayiing fock you field nigger!...I am more human than you because i sleep with masters Dog...loool

Walaahi when i hear people with your kind of thinking it makes one wonder what it would be like to nuke bariga somaliland...Not whole of Somaliland but just east....lol

Munaafaqadu sal ma leh. adey kugu soo laabansxb. so ka fiirso waxaad ku hadleyso iyo waxaad rabtid neefyow dardaran lool

[Xildiiid]

You want to have an intellectual debate?

1. No such thing as Somalia existed before colonialism and the word Somalia itself is foreign. It's an Italian reference used by the Italian colonialists to describe their colony and their colony was called Somalia Italiana. That colony stretched from Bari to Lower Jubba.

2. The union was illegal and the state you're talking about based on irredentism was called "The Somali republic" and not Somalia. Not only was the union illegal but Somalia annexed Somaliland. The political alienation, the military occupation and the economical inequality despite our people paying taxes is enough proof. Now.. for them to claim that we're part of their country or that we're seceding is absurd. Somaliland was not part of Somalia, never was and never will. This far no one hasn't been able to disprove that.

3. Reclaiming our sovereignty does not mean we want to return to the days of European imperialism. It simply means we want to return to 26th of June, 1960. Before we gave up our sovereignty for a fake dream.

4. I could care less about the white whore Nicholas Kay and the international community. If it takes another 1000 years we'll wait.

5. The people in Somalia are not my brothers. We don't share language, culture, traditions and mentality. I won't deal with them because we have nothing in common. You're not from Somaliland, you have no right to speak about what my country should or should not do.

6. If you love Somalia and the fake dream of Somaliweyn so much, why doesn't Djibouti give up its sovereignty, unite with Somalia and fight for that dream?

Somalilanders already did that.

7. Your bizarre hypocrisy and crocodile years is quite amusing.

[Khalid Ali]

Jaaluladin logic doesnt make sense at all if Somaliland is rejected by the UN does Somaliland respect the wish of the UN and does Somaliland respect Somalia claim over Somaliland.He tries to undermine Somaliland saying that SL wants recognition, SL just want what belongs to her It doesnt claim Walanweyns Somalia. Somaliland does not care about Europeans and what they want. Somaliland is pursuing their own interest.Somaliland is not asking Britain to help them against walanwweyns we dont ask Britian to send us troops we want nothing from the Europeans just them to respect our wishes and aspirations. By the way Xildiid can speak for Somaliland he is from Somaliland Jaalaaludin you cant speak for Somaliland , Because u have no allegiance to Somaliland.

[jalaaludin5]

What does allegiance has to do with anything?

Why is it that the moment someone express views different to yours they are the enemy or they just hate somaliland and in my case its because "i have no allegiance to somaliland".

All the derogatory terms you use to describe the south and the length you are going to distance yourself from the madness in konfur just so you get recognized is something that will make the departed snm turn in their grave.

I am not naive enough to believe that somaliland should put all their hard work and sacrifices in the fire by allowing themselves to be ruled from the south again. But that doesnt mean one has to keep quiet from the mindless behaviour and pure hate used to "defend" somaliland and when its most convenient bring back quarter of a century old wounds.

My allegiance to somaliland is not one that needs to be approved by anyone. My roots and blood ties run from Djibouti, Hargeysa, Borama, Gabiley, Kilinka shanaad to diri dhaba.

[Xildiiid]

^

You haven't addressed any of my posts so you're dismissed. You're not from Somaliland, min fadlik, do not discuss our affairs

Don't talk about the SNM xaaranyahay..