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Extraordinary, amazing Shi'a Hadeeth

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:38 am
by ZubeirAwal
I'm not a close minded muslim I review what all those who claim to hold the truth to offer, I think the Shi'a have portents of truth from their hadeeths, many of their hadeeths sound the same as some reported in the main sources within the Ahlus Sunnah, but this riwayah that is said to have isnaad to Imam Ali (RA) intrigued me:

In the book Al Jafr, which is like a important book to the Shia, there is a tradition attributed to Imam Ali (RA) that deals with the end times, bare in mind this book is well over 600 years old:
"Fifty stars, they are not in the sky, but rather in a Great (large) land. However the star of Israel, which is it's sworn shield, shall swallow them all. A time which promises an end to them, during which they do wrong to all the Arabs. And the nation, which disobeyed it's messenger, which dimmed the lamp with their own hands, will cry out. He shall enter in it a deceptive manner, and all the fifty partitions (states?) shall be decorated with the ornaments of the worldly life. And he will tie the fifty states with the rope of Israel, which comes from the Mount of Zion. He wants corruption on the Earth, and he wants oppresses to have a high status. They call it, the land of Amreek, their leader will come from the children of Isaac and the children of Israel. He will gather people upon their language, and he will call them by their call, and in the land of Amreek there is fitna.

After the blessings spreads the wings of generosity on them, and after the world yields it's pleasure, and after Iblis walked it's cities and alleyways. And after he violates it's sanctities, the religion of Iblis will come on to them; carnal desires, arrogance, and thirst for the worldly life. And they will become drowned in amenities/blessings, amused with the goodness of this worldly life, happy with their sciences. Their matters will be settled for them, in the shadows of an evil ruler, and their condition shall end with a losing side. The world is only wants, wants without reaching anywhere. They are rulers on every end of the earth, they know everything that takes place in it.

And they will possess eyes that spy above the clouds, and things like flags in the seas in which they store fire in the form of dust. It angers the oppressed, whether muslim or non muslim, Allah will establish his proof upon the land of Amreek. So he will curse them by what they disobeyed and transgressed with, Allah will destroy the lands of Amreek and collapse it all together. It will shall not remain upon the earth.

The name 'New' is used by a lot of them, and there will remain from new, and new, and new , and new (the guy who translates this wrote "New Jersey? New York? New Hampshire? New England?") Their efforts will be exhausted and wasted, rendered into dust, by the permission of Allah.

And there is nothing superseding the will of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì with a nation, whom have a great river called Amazou and oppression will cause fitna in an era, and will spread poverty in their land, and they will not be known by name except in the released game, in which it’s men play behind something like a many-fold [enlargement] of an Ostrich’s egg, a ball of skins. For this they will assign banners/flags and play music and dance.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/00f7j50om ... %D8%B1.pdf


The obvious reference was the 50 stars and 'Amreek', but it's almost like it's mixed with truth and fabrication, the truthful part is that no one would know of America, 50 stars, amazon and such except the prophet (saw) who obviously conveyed this to 'Bab Al Ilm' Ali (RA) ,interesting to say the least. Everytime I come across a hadith that has accurate predictions it boosts my iman

Re: Extraordinary, amazing Shi'a Hadeeth

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:05 am
by Xildiiid
Are you Shi'a sxb?

Re: Extraordinary, amazing Shi'a Hadeeth

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:36 pm
by Hodan94
lmao this text is full of true/false elements

the land of amreek? how can a text so long ago mention usa?

but if its true then wow great text :lol:

Re: Extraordinary, amazing Shi'a Hadeeth

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:45 pm
by SultanOrder
Zubeyr put the tusbax down, stop the xadro, and go outside for a breath of fresh air. :lol:

Re: Extraordinary, amazing Shi'a Hadeeth

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:08 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
Brother becareful of shia. There is no goodness in people who curse the mother of believers Aisha aleyha salaam! They curse her and other great sahaba, Amir al mumineen Ali a.s treated her with utmost respect!

Re: Extraordinary, amazing Shi'a Hadeeth

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:36 pm
by ZubeirAwal
Walaalayal I'm not a Shi'a nor am I becoming one, but I just found this interesting.

Re: Extraordinary, amazing Shi'a Hadeeth

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:41 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
Akhi did you read dua kumayl?

Re: Extraordinary, amazing Shi'a Hadeeth

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:59 pm
by ZubeirAwal
No, I don't know what that is.

Re: Extraordinary, amazing Shi'a Hadeeth

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:35 pm
by AhlulbaytSoldier
It is pure Monotheistic dua alleged to be from Amir al mumineen Ali a.s
www.duas.org/kumayl.htm

Re: Extraordinary, amazing Shi'a Hadeeth

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:00 pm
by Skippa
ZubeirAwal wrote:They call it, the land of Amreek
:snoop: