Somali gov or Shabab: Whose the lesser of two evils?

[JamalAddow]

Not talking about the Islamic perspective, but dunya perspective.

Worst case scenario if Somali gov gets its way:

All of Somalia(the country will be united) will be sold to the highest bidder, oil companies, mining companies and finance companies will ravish the country's resources, and the environment and the people will suffer the most. Even though we'll be a rich country, most of the money will be in the hands of a few corrupt elite(think Nigeria/Niger). The country will be in debt to the IMF and we'll still be receiving aid as famines increase.

Worst case scenario if Shabab were to get their way(not likely):

We'll be under totalitarian rule with a rigid system. No unity under Shabab, everything above Galkacyo will still be under the control of Puntland/Somaliland unless they accept their authority which is unlikely(as they're too powerful). Anybody that goes against the rule of law will be taken out, border skirmishes with Ethiopia every few months. Semblance of peace and unity returns to the south where qabiils move about freely in other qabiil areas. No qabiil violence, and minority rights protected and honoured.

Even though we all wanna see Somalia look like Dubai, the truth is it'll never look like that, and if we accept a UN-backed gov we'll be worst than we were under anarchy or Islamists.

[GIJaamac]

Is this nigga actually saying that Somalia is destined to be a shithole forever ?

[Caesar]

The government can be changed with elections uprisings, and protests

but al shabaab is always about killings etc.

The government is better we just need to put pressure on your representatives and politicians, instead of crying on VOA about your f-king qabil!

al shabaab = starving and dying

[JamalAddow]

Thing is the gov will never change cuz the West will never allow us to rise again, they've seen what happens when a strong Somalia rises, and at the same we're Muslims and black Africans, the two things they despise the most.

And it wasn't Shabab that caused the famine, it was the West through its subsidiaries WFP, UN and USAid.

[Caesar]

Al shabaab banned food imports and controlled local economies so they would starve.

[SimplySerene]

The IUC may of started with good intentions but the problem is .....
alShabab seems to be unpredictable. If they were controlled, well-managed and were the majority will of the people I would be cool with it. But that doesn't seem to be the case.

The Somalia gov sucks too.

I guess the Somalia gov is the lesser of the two evils

[JamalAddow]

In the long run Shabab is the lesser of two evils, cuz our gov is currently bound to a road of destruction for Somalia.

[James Dahl]

Depends on what you consider evil, but they're both useless if that's what you mean.

Neither has done much of anything to develop the economy or education or much of anything other than killing people. Only the regional states seem interested in actually building schools or roads or electric plants.

Somalia has desperate need for infrastructure, education, heath facilities, energy, water and sewage, roads, teachers, policemen, traffic lights, you name it. What do they spend all their money on? Guns and corruption. That goes for both sides by the way.

[saacJabshee]

Thing is the gov will never change cuz the West will never allow us to rise again, they've seen what happens when a strong Somalia rises, and at the same we're Muslims and black Africans, the two things they despise the most.

And it wasn't Shabab that caused the famine, it was the West through its subsidiaries WFP, UN and USAid.

One thing that make me sincerely believe these organizations are shady and counter productive is. I hear that when somali farmers bring their produce to the market they (wfp and such) bring free food aid to the market. So the farmer cant sell his produce or he cant sell enough. Okay some people might this is a conspiracy theory, I say fair enough. But then why is that these aid organization want to bring rationed food (sometimes out of date) to a country like Somali that has lots of readily available farm land? why dont they bring farming equipment such as tractors and what not. I think they have an interest in keeping us down and needy. Anyways why should a white man come and give us farming equipment for free? it would certainly save them money in the long run. But I dont think they would be satisfied if they greatly helped a nation out of poverty. Wallahi the ones "helping" are the real enemies of somali people. I dont really see a solution coming from Somalia or somali people.

You know I would chose the government over alshabab because amison would greatly increase their numbers and expand their presence and if that doesnt help, Nato will pay us a visit.

[SimplySerene]

there always hope. I would like to see more decent and well educated Somalis take office and gain control of the current situation

[saacJabshee]

there always hope. I would liketo see more decent and well educated Somalis take office and gain control of the current situation

Dont forget is all about elections. An honest educated politician would lose his way or simply wouldn't stand a chance of winning. He would have accept money from lobbyist groups who obviously dont have Somalia's interest as a priority. Then you have the regular meetings with Kenya and Ethiopia in which somali leaders are told what do, what to say and how to do it. An honest educated leader cant stand for that unless he losses his good ways.

[jalaaludin5]

Jamaalow sxb adigo iska cibaadeysta aya dan kuu ah.
International politics and especially the plight of Muslim nations is something that will only confuse you further.
Don't get too cough up with the impotence of Muslim nations and the great influence of the west.

Because this is the result. Right into the arms of bunch of lunatics that fancy themselves as jihadist who should be in a nut farm.

Al-Shabba is not something any God fearing Muslim should wish for.

I rather Somalia be joined to Ethiopia and we take up Amharic as our first language.

[sconosciuto]

Al-Shabaab can't be the evil part, whether lesser or higher. It's a grassroots movement that's fighting to liberate Somalia, for self-sufficiency, empowering the poor and weak, anti-colonial borders and for uniting all Somali lands (including NFD, Djibouti, Ogaden), for ruling with Shariica against man-made constitutions (democracy, communism, socialism, etc), against corruption, nepotism, qabiilism, etc.