Should General Gabre Change Somalia's Capital?

[Hawdian]

Since Mogadishu is cursed place and has been the obstacle to peace for almost 30 years, should the man in charge of Somalia change her capital or does he thrive on its chaos and keep it in the old ghost town?

I personally think Somalia deserves a new beginning and a new capital even if that's temporary. The people of Mogadishu have no intentions to allow peace to prevail. I personally recommend the Darod to declare their own capital in Kismayo. Jubbaland and Puntland plus some central regions is all you need and pretty much today they are under the Darod control. So they should not be waiting for Mogadishu for another 200 years.

The other question is will Kenya free Kismayo and will General Gabre relocate to Kismayo? General Gabre is Tigray's most notorious outlaw and he has figured out how to deal with Somalis of Somalia. He is a true gangster.





Right now most Darod are held captive and denied progress because Mogadishu remains an obstacle to peace. So I do not see why they should wait around for another three decades. They should just combine Jubbaland, Galgadud, parts of Hiiraan and Puntland region and declare their own capital. I am certain more international players would approach or deal with Darod capital than Hawiye ghost town.

The Darod plan will have to be approved by the Tigrais otherwise the Hawiye will play the good old fear-tactic ONLF card. The truth is most of Somalia remains under TPLF just like Ogaden. Pictures don't lie (case above).


Ras

[HayWire]

IS HE YOUR FATHER

WORRY ABOUT YOUR GUN JABTAY LOL, WHILE YOU ARE AT IT, REMOVE THE SEMEN MIXED RAW MEAT FROM YOUR TEETH.

[Hawdian]

Haywire,

I'm not sure why you allowing your emotions to get the best of you. This debate is for big boys. It's better to be silent if you are unable to think beyond your emotions.

As I have posted, Gabre is clearly the man in control and he can openly carry his gun while the others cross their arms and legs. Sida ogtahay, when mowlakulmad takes your life, he stands above you.

It is a powerful picture.

Equally discuss the need for a new capital for Somalia and even Darood having their own capital. Isaac have their Hargeisa and Darod is bigger than Hawiye they should think about coming together and making Mogadishu very irrelevant.

Ras

[thegoodshepherd]

Hawdian,
why don't Darood have a city the size of Hargeisa or Mogadishu?

[HayWire]

BE HONEST MAN. WERE YOU DISAPPOINTED WHEN YOU FOUND OUT HAWIYE WASN'T YOUR FATHER. NOW YOU HAVE TO PUT UP YOUR AMXAR STEP DAD'S ABUSE. YOU BOAST ABOUT AMXARO ACHIEVEMENT DAILY LIKE THE SLAVE YOU ARE. DON'T HATE US, HATE THE GAME, YESTERDAY YOU WERE GOB JABTAY, TODAY YOU ARE GUN JABTAY. COME ON, POST YOUR XABASHI MASTER'S SUCCESS.

[Hawdian]

Hawdian,
why don't Darood have a city the size of Hargeisa or Mogadishu?

Kismayo is Darod city today and its not much smaller than Hargeisa and Mogadishu. It has great potential but the Darod folks do funny things and do not have common goal.

There is no need for Darod to treat another equal tribe as if they are greater or Allah sent another Surah urging Darods to be loyal and obedient to Mogadishu. Darod can and should make their own capital and see who comes to who. Because Darod are much better host than Hawiye, most Somalis including us Isaac would rather invest in Darod Kismayo than Hawiye Mogadishu. Thus in no time, Mogadishu will be the shadow of Kismayo and very irrelevant. Remember once Zeila used to be the thriving city until we Isaac took our assets to Bulahar and Berbera...we then made our way to irrelevant Hargeisa, which was then a small village where hides (animal skin) was sold. Today you know the result.

I am proposing the same thing for Darods. It was 8 years ago when I held extensive talks with an Ethiopian ambassador. Believe it or not wallahi, I proposed him with the creation of Jubbaland and expanding the Ogadens in that region and later adding Jubbaland to Ethiopia under the pretext of "All Ogadens are Ethiopian nationalities and naturally Ethiopia inherits all their land, assets".

I still have the transcript between me and the Ambassador (no names).

The Ethiopians were not as visionary as the Kenyans who saw it years later.

8 years from today, Darod will possible say "if only we listened to that crazy idoor"

If Darod wants to challenge Hawiye, they should not take arms nor go to Mogadishu with the PM card vs President. They should simply just declare their own capital and invite the international community. All they need is few endorsements. All nations at one point change their capitals for valid reasons.



Ethiopia is perfect example...they moved the capital more than 500 times before Menelik settled in small Addis Ababa just 100 years ago. IC only supports the unanimous voice and with Darod land being much bigger than Hawiye, they can draw more support including regional powers.

Ras

[grandpakhalif]

Darod leader of al shabab Ogadeni ex-RasKambooni amir of Shabab Abu Ubaida Axmed Cumar is against Ethiopia and so is the Marexaani Abu Musab and so is Sheikh Turki xafidahullah. Ethiopia will never rule Somalia as long as these men are agaisnt them

[TheblueNwhite]

Let us know what your daddy decides and share the news with us. In the meantime, talk about Hawiye this and that. Free advertisement never hurts. Have at it.

[STARKAST]

There is no Somalia without peace between Darood iyo Hawiye, remember that. Clan succession or division cannot occur which is exactly what our enemies wish for.

Beesha Hawiye have to banish their anarchy....because Ugandishu isn't a capital of anything...

[Khalid Ali]

Hawdian how come Ethiopia failed to see the importance of Jubbaland for its own interest. If it gave the Ogaden a home a land in Ethiopia , it would help stop the rebellion the ONLF is waging. I am sure if Meles was alive he would have capitalized on the Jubba thing. Ethiopia in 2007 was busy fighting ICU they never laid a plan for Somalia.

Grandpa the new Amiir is not Darod he is Dir , with an Isaaq mother he is the maternal cousin of Amir Godane

I am not necessarily against Mogadishu being the capital of Somalia, let the darood run towards Mogadishu.

But Jubbaland is important for the security of both Kenya and Ethiopia.

[Khalid Ali]

Hawidan most darods are emotionally attached in xamar of the old days especially mjs and marexaan
Punt land has tried to change capital buy they don't have a city as large as Mogadishu to sell it to other Somalis
But if darod want to change capital a radical approach is needed they need to sell it to the ice neoghboring states
If they withdraw their support from the xamar govt and unilatrlly declare kismayo the capital they need to win he support of dm to. They just need to build another govt in kismayo somali govt this would delegitimize the sfg
But darod is not interested in that.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Hawdian,
why don't Darood have a city the size of Hargeisa or Mogadishu?

You can't even get the map right wax kale iskaba daaye.

since when do daarood live between Beledweyne and middle shabelle? LOL@ RRA map you do know right they border ethiopia via Bakool. this xabashi prostitute is funny.

[Hawdian]

Khalid,

We can always reprogramme them and show them the way. After the federation, the key issue is capital and in the current Wanlawein constitution, there is no capital thus its an indication that Darods have kept that open.

Warsheekh,

The map isn't today. Read the top. It is a blue print for future re-arrangement of the south. I predict by 2020-2050, its possible to achieve this map. All it takes is the Marehan to expand a little to the north.


Ras

[DR-YALAXOOW]

xamar is the best place.. Soon we going to have one of best African airports.. capacity 5000 passengers day 70 flights a day very top modern airport-
xamar 1


you mASEEYR niggars you dont have this


only city in somalia who have girls playing front of stadium full of spectitors


xamar

[THE_TRUTH1]

Ethiopian troops 'quit Mogadishu'
Local residents cheer as Ethiopian forces vacate main bases in Somali capital.

Lessons Learned: The Hawiye clans are capable of fighting against the Ethiopian troops. The TFG and Ethiopian troops do not have support of the local community as was shown by the dragging, burning, and subsequent rock throwing of TFG and Ethiopian soldiers bodies on May 21.

hawiye waa geesi waa libaax
Geesiyasha Hawiye tariikhdu wey qortay waa gumeysi diid



meesha mahah kilinka shanad