I have told the Isaaqs need to be one more time the Kabadhe iidoor they were known for and bring their Business expertise and ganacsi to south eastern Ethiopia. Its a meeting point of Oromo and sidamo and small Amhara farmers. The hawasa region has less than 200.000 people. We should not settle in the town but the isaaq Hawdians from Hawd should build an entire new town near the big Lake and call it Bali Isaaq or Bahir Yeshaq. 15.000 Isaaqs from the 8 sub clans of the Isaaq should settle there. The region is not owned by one ethnic the Ethiopian government categorized it as southern nationalities several nationalities live there, sidamo being the majority' Hawdian can give more specification on that.
Hawassa
Just 15 km north of the Lake is where we should start our Town and let it grow into a city.
My cousin who works and studied in Sudan was in Ethiopia 2 months ago i send him there to explore the place he said the people are the most friendly there , he said the people. i might go there for a visit when i visit East Africa very soon.
Hawdian and Khalid are some funny folks. They would hate to have anything with so called "Konfurians" but would love teaming up or living with Ethiopians. Waa dad aan ka yaabay kkkkkk
Going back to the topic, Do you seriously think your pastoralist *ass can demographically change anything? Oromo and other Qotis (they're all the same to me) in the region have 3 times as many kids as Somalis do kkkk.
Look at the distance between the southern end of Shinile and the central Ethiopian "main" regions. Somalis should focus on that, it probably has land even more beautiful than Hawassa or whatever you call it once you get to the highlands but this is just a theory of mine. I want Somalis to expand all over North East Africa....mabye one day all the way to North Sudan kkkkk
You are an excellent thinker and a man who understands how to think beyond emotions, pride and ego. You are able to put that aside for bigger agenda and that's how true leaders think. You can't wear ethnic, cultural or emotional shirts when you want to take people in a complete direction but at the same time you understand every interest has a target audience or clientele.
I won't discuss too deep what you and I share but I will say i slightly differ on inviting 15,000 Isaac. I disagree. My idea is somewhat different. We do not need 15,000 headaches. Most Isaacs do not think like us and love to remain in their comfort zone but the ones who take daring challenges are already pretty successful individual Isaacs. We need to go after those ones. By this I am saying we pitch to wealthy Isaac entrepreneurs and business owners such as Dahabshiil, Guelleh brothers, Khadra Haid, Amina Moge, Aideed Jama, Absute, Olad, Afdile, Gafaane, Omaar, Khadar Kodbuur, Deero, etc. Khadra Haid already owns 20,000 hectares of land in Oromia region. She is smart Isaac woman. May Allah protect her.
We ask them to fund us and we buy huge lands in Hawassa as "development" and "farmlands". After we develop it, we sell the apartments or homes in Hargeisa market to open minded Isaacs as "holiday homes" rather than invite 15,000 headaches. Dahabshiil and the likes are just investors. We need to attract the right people with the right minds and those with money are often educated and open minded. We should not voluntarily relocate 15,000 of xaabo who later cause problems for us and cause Aboriginal unrest against us hehehehehehe. Each year we also make donations to the city of Hawassa.
We work with the Ethiopian Government as well and give them their cut. After all they need investors.
We create "The Bahir Yeshaq Company" who is LLC and champion of integration. After Hawassa we go to Bahir Dar and Lake Tana and work with the Amhara. We give the Amhara share in the Bahir Dar division of 25-30%.
The Amhara people are very hospital people and only demand equal respect and fair treatment. They never had issue with us.
We get Daallo Airlines onboard and get them to fly direct flights from Bahir Dar, Hawassa and Hargeisa. We grow the fruit and veggies in our Bahir Dar estates and we develop settlement in our Hawassa front. Every day you can imagine the fruits and veggies that will flood Hargeisa, Berbera, Burao, Borama markets.
Guelleh brothers, the Arab-Isaac brothers, already own construction, shipping, transport and insurance companies. They would be perfect to get the development contract...they just bring in their construction firm and insurance company----they at the same time investors.
In the long future, I want to advocate for us to build a water pipeline from Lake Tana to Gabiley and Arabsiyo. We flood the farmlands of our hard working visionary people who are in these regions. Our people will not see this and will only think of underground water but we can reserve the underground and fund other projects too. There is no need to waste energy on desalination plants like the low IQ Arabs. Israel lives in the same region as Arabs yet it secured her water ways rather than waste her money on desalination.
By the way, here is another one of your cousins (Khadar Kodbuur) going as far as Benishangul-Gumuz.
Another cousin of yours, she went to Debre Zeyit, which is just outside Addis Ababa, to get artworks for Hargeisa's first art gallery show.
This is an example of what she got
Displaying the artwork in Hargeisa for our people to think outside the box...
Overall, you are very good thinker and we need few more Isaac like you. Most of our people will react negatively to our views and this post itself will be evidence of that. Our people only think "Kuwan Amxaaro jacayla" lakin ma arkan our long term visions. They are the joke and frankly way isla saxsan jahin solution-na uma hayan our people.
There is nothing in Wanlawein for Isaac. "Somalinimo" is not going to put food on your table nor deliver water to our drought stricken region.
Yeshaaq Eskista Company is a sub-division of Bahir Yeshaaq
Ras Hawdian----Berbera, Hawassa to Lake Tana.
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Khalid you have to ask yourself, why somali people, specifically your clan did not settle there in the past when they had a chance...
But if you all are trying to get some green spots I say mashallah downside I believe is you all waited too long, you cannot really expand a tribe in 2014 can you?
Chinaman wrote:Hawdian and Khalid are some funny folks. They would hate to have anything with so called "Konfurians" but would love teaming up or living with Ethiopians. Waa dad aan ka yaabay kkkkkk
Going back to the topic, Do you seriously think your pastoralist *ass can demographically change anything? Oromo and other Qotis (they're all the same to me) in the region have 3 times as many kids as Somalis do kkkk.
Look at the distance between the southern end of Shinile and the central Ethiopian "main" regions. Somalis should focus on that, it probably has land even more beautiful than Hawassa or whatever you call it once you get to the highlands but this is just a theory of mine. I want Somalis to expand all over North East Africa....mabye one day all the way to North Sudan kkkkk
Sxb they cannot expand into shinile for it is already claimed by somali clans
Gurgura Isse and Samaroon have shinile on lock, the afar region is being colonized by isses as we speak.
remember they are expanding for isaaq, (who havent really expanded out of all the nothern clans) they are mostly focusing on eastern somaliland dusty regions.
so if they and expand into ethiopia,
they have to look for some next region where they are no somalis since all the nice spots are claimed,
like some random deep ethio territory far away they never been to. it's hilarious to me wallahi
Also @ Hawdian why would you ever build a pipeline to bring water to Gabiley and Arapsiyo if you know anything about that spot they get bare rain from the mountains they dont need pipelines....
Hawdian well done greatly explained I like ur idea to filter people and not randomly select them
Do u know isaqs were the first to start the market in Eastleigh. In Aden there was suqal ishaq.
And its also good to involve bussiness people they are always interested in investment
What we also need is some one high in Ethiopian politics close to the tigre
Politicians some one like the great abdulmajid Hussein. Other than that it can be done my cousin is very enthusiastic.
It's not an expansion kids. It's a different approach. It's called germination. It's beyond the average Somali geeljire. You do not need to go through lands of Somalis and Shinile is pretty desert. Nothing grows there.
The best land is Oromia (including Sidamo), Amhara (Gojjam and western Shoa), Gambella, southern nations (Omo valley) and Beninshangul-Gumuz.
Shinile is just like Afar and is pretty much like Togdheer if not worse.
Khalid and I have different methods and we understand the region pretty well.
Khalid,
You don't really need someone inside the TPLF circle. Money does wonders and if we can get these wealthy Isaac to pool their resources, we are a powerful player.
Khadar Kodbuur, ina Afdile and many others are connected to the TPLF. Ina Afdile is said to channel as much as $10mn annually to the TPLF.
In Bahir Dar, I equally call for "The Ogsadey School of Business". We teach the local Amhara people how to be entrepreneurs and self-reliant. We give them tools but they also give it back to us. We embed ourselves in every society and reinforce our values through institutions rather than expansion and by the sword like the other low IQ tribes. Isaac is different, we promote peace. I often tell our Amhara friends-------You have the lemon and I have the squeezer, let us make a lemonade.
Ras
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Caesar wrote:
But if you all are trying to get some green spots I say mashallah downside I believe is you all waited too long, you cannot really expand a tribe in 2014 can you?
Exactly, the time for new expansion is over.
If your clan didn't expand in the past, it is too late now.
I'm not and have never been one to like the scheming Darods or the Hutu heathens but I would have any of them over any Ethiopian.
Why you guys somehow think that you will add up to anything in a country with 60 million population who the majority are on famine watch is beyond me. Your ideas sound like the work of people who have been in some basement for too long smoking some good grade hashish. When you guys return to reality let the rest of us know.
Till then keep these un-islamic un-isaaq un-somali ideas in check....
Caesar wrote:
But if you all are trying to get some green spots I say mashallah downside I believe is you all waited too long, you cannot really expand a tribe in 2014 can you?
Exactly, the time for new expansion is over.
If your clan didn't expand in the past, it is too late now.
exactly you see what i mean
that era is over, for that I say tough luck kiddos.
War these kids are crazy this is not ur somalia style pick up trucks qoryo Saaran, and attack defenseless. Farmer and steal their land this is enriching the land bringing new ideas building stronger societies working together developing the land. This broadening the ishaq. Yehaqi afro hashimati way of life similar what we have done isiolo Kenya. Isaaqi have enough land in SL and hawd. But isaaqs can do much more in the region and the world is much bigger. We will be with caleemo qoyan welcomed by sidamo and oromo because we bring change not amisom soldiers and guns.
Hawdian thats good xoogsade bussines school and bahir yeshaq iniative combined together cirka la island aadaya a
downside I believe is you all waited too long, you cannot really expand a tribe in 2014 can you?
