The Concept of Laandheer vs. Laangab

[Jabuutawi]

I have been internally debating this very subject awhile now. As an American-Djiboutian, it is a new concept to me. Here is my question, is this concept based on an absolute number or how far back you can trace your progenitor?

This is why I ask:

Darood and Hawiye, but particularly the former, say they are laandheere. Let us dig deeper. Aside from Ogadayn and to some extent Marjatayn, Darood does not have significant numbers of other clans. The Dishishe, Leelkase, Warsangeli and Dhulbahante are not that many. Marehan are a 'tweener', neither big nor small.

Same goes for the Hawiye. Aside from Abgal, HG and to some extent Xawadle or Duduble, there are no sizable number of other Hawiye. Certainly not the Sheekal, Gaal Jacayl, Baadicade.

Here are the "laangab" clans and approximate census.
Ciise -- over a 1.5 million.
Gadabursi -- over a 1 million
Bimal -- just under a million
Gadsan -- not sure
others -- not sure
Isaaq -- over 1.5 million (Disclosure: depends whether they are Dir or not).

So, these so called "laangab" clans have very sizable populations and, in absolute terms, largest single clan of all Somalis.

I am not a social scientist but this is my conclusion.

[skywalker25]

If Cisse is 1.5 million the same as the whole Isaaq combined and Gudabursi is 1 million just shy of all the Isaaq's you my friend are what known in respectable circles as a bonfire liar....

[MoAwr]

Sky answer numbers with numbers

I bet I have more geel than all of those clans

[blizzard90]

laandeer = I have more grand dads than you


can u imagine arguing with a white person and saying shut up I have more grand dads than you

[blizzard90]

the white person would say shut up I built a spaceship and went to the moon.

[Jabuutawi]

Prove me wrong without resorting to name callings. I am talking about the entire Horn region. Somaliland has a population of 3.5 million, Isaq can't be more than half of that. Just because few thousand Isaq live in Hawd does not mean you own Hawd either. Hawd is managed from Jigjiga.

[thegoodshepherd]

Dir populations are no joke walahi. There are at least half a million in Awdal and Awbare.
And another 600,000 in Shinile. But to say Dir is on the same level as Darood in terms of sheer numbers is a stretch.

Here is a FACT to give you a sense of just how large Darood is:

There are more Darood in Kilinka 5 than total Hawiye population. Keep in mind that does not include Darood Somalia or Kenya.
Beesha Darood should be divided in subclans in order to be compared to the major clans.
Absame= Hawiye
Harti= Isaaq

That is two subclans of Darood equal the next two largest Somali clans.

[MoAwr]

Everyone is saying fact then drop a number without a solid prove

[1nemansquad]

with all due respect sir, this discussion is valueless

[Jabuutawi]

If you are implying Julkimi's threads have more value, I beg to differ

Re: Absame=Hawiye, I am talking about individual clans or subclans. In absolute terms Dir has two individual subclans in the top 5 of all Somali clans.

[Basra-]

Jabuutawi aka Xplaya

When did u decide It is OK to come out of the Djiboutian closet ?

[Khalid Ali]

With all due respect djbouti population is less than one million
Of those one million somalis are ,,60 percent ciise is 500.000 in djibouti
And i am being generous

Samaroon are around 700.000 somaliland and erhiopia


Isaaq are 3 point ,2 million ethiopia and somaliland all included

Darod is around 3 million hawiye gaaljecell xawadle included is around 4.1 million

[Shirib]

Djibouti has a population of 810,000 and Ciise is 1.5 million...pass whatever you're smoking bro

[blizzard90]

i just checked google, the whole of Djibouti is 432.000 people

talk about Laangaab

hawiye is the dominant somali clan

[Jabuutawi]

Are you people dyslexic? I am talking about the whole Horn. Operative word is Horn. Mind you, Ciise live in 3 countries, not only Djibouti.

Shribi, I gather math was not your strong suit in high school.