A Brainless Discussion. You are ALL welcome. (athiests too)

[Basra-]

NEARLY ALL violent, unstable nations---they practice one religion. ISLAM. (Somalis included) Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia,


Is this a coincidence???? What does it say about your religion? Have we failed ISLAM??

[Classiq]

Yes since Islam was introduced to these regions centuries ago they have never seen peace..Iraq, Syria,Afghanistan, and Libya should be off your list, religion never made those countries unstable, somalis on the other hand put qabil before religion, I think it's something in the sub Sahara air that makes Africans mentally challenged they don't think lol.

[SultanOrder]

I don't understand what you mean about "brainless discussion". Should we have an idiotic simplistic discussion on the matter?

On the issue, remember that every country you mentioned hasn't seen very much peace thanks to colonial or western influence. Second, most of those countries have been relatively peaceful.

[Jove]

The problems of these nations cannot be blamed wholly on islam. But a strong faith in Islam hasn't helped these people either. Take a look at Somalis. Every Farah and Halimo proclaims an undying faith in the revelations of the Prophet Muhammad. Yet Somalia remains the word's worst country. Plausible explanations for the lack of divine blessing and favor upon Somalis are: Somalis are insincere or weak in faith; a strong faith in God does not necessarily result in a blessed life; Somalis are worshipping the wrong God; God does not exist. The approach of Denmark is, "meh, we don't know if God exists or not, but we will operate under a secular worldview and guarantee our success through handwork, industry, and ambition." Devout Farahs and Halimos might respond by saying our problems and afflictions will be lifted once we return to our faith and follow it even more closely. It's the difference between pray harder and bend the knee lower or get off your butt and work your field. America mixes the praying and the working, but they save the prayers only for forty-five minutes on Sunday.

[Basra-]

Classiq, PO, and Jove Great point of views!

[visious]

ever since the Islamic golden age which was 1000+ years ago I do not recall 1 thing Islam has done for the world. It has been downhill from there. The reason being that Muslims and Islam refuse to change. It is considered blasphemy in Islam even to contemplate change of Islam. Christians went through Babarism then changed to Reinassans then went through enlightenment then finally started the official science age and industrialism.

Muslims on the other hand remained and are still in 1000 AD even some are behind 1000 AD because Islamic golden age had REAL scientists who helped in Physics and Math. Today there is no single muslim scientist because of many reasons such as not agreeing with evolution and the big bang.

what's' even sadder is that they want to remain in 1000 AD forever. and its the reason where there is no 1 stable sharia practising muslim country today. its not about colonialism or western influence. China was never influenced by the west any more than industrialism and look where it is now

[Amira143]

I don't think is "us" failing but the west declaring war against Islam. Islam is a flame they simply can not extinguish. All these countries that are in a state of violence is due to the west and it's mission to weaken the Muslim Umma.

Also Everything is a test. And "Allah does not burden a soul beyond that it can bear” (Qur'an, 2:286). Patience and endurance is required. At the end of the day we know Islam is the truth. Victory belongs to Allah.

[Basra-]

ever since the Islamic golden age which was 1000+ years ago I do not recall 1 thing Islam has done for the world. It has been downhill from there. The reason being that Muslims and Islam refuse to change. It is considered blasphemy in Islam even to contemplate change of Islam. Christians went through Babarism then changed to Reinassans then went through enlightenment then finally started the official science age and industrialism.

Muslims on the other hand remained and are still in 1000 AD even some are behind 1000 AD because Islamic golden age had REAL scientists who helped in Physics and Math. Today there is no single muslim scientist because of many reasons such as not agreeing with evolution and the big bang.

what's' even sadder is that they want to remain in 1000 AD forever. and its the reason where there is no 1 stable sharia practising muslim country today. its not about colonialism or western influence. China was never influenced by the west any more than industrialism and look where it is now

vicious

u bring GREAT points. Islam does really represent the very definition of 'Conservative"! Republicans and Muslims should get along, but evidently they don't. I don't know what happened though, I mean --all science and mathematics ingenuity originated from Islam nations, yet today--they do nothing but fart and say Alhamdhulilaah. Sad.


Amira

Indeed--at the end of the day ISLAM is the ONLY true religion, and Alaah swt is all merciful and all knowing. But do you NOT put fault in the muslims and the arabs? I want to see you pin pointing their faults. Indulge me.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

the problem is not Islam but the proplem is a cult religion from Saudi arabia called Wahhaabism aka salafism... its this cult and its followers whor doing most evil in the islamic world including Somalia.. only when muslims get rid of this satanic cult salafism then we will have peace in our countries.

[Basra-]

the problem is not Islam but the proplem is a cult religion from Saudi arabia called Wahhaabism aka salafism... its this cult and its followers whor doing most evil in the islamic world including Somalia.. only when muslims get rid of this satanic cult salafism then we will have peace in our countries.

Good point. I think we have failed ISLAM. WE all agree ISLAM is the truth, and beautiful. Therefore, knowing that, MUSLIMS not protecting the institute of ISLAM-- we have failed.