who was the british judge that aquited kayd in 1963

[ramzy2277]

I am looking for a document or a file, which details the famous 1961 failed coup attempt of Hassan Kayd in Hargeisa, which also was the first coup in Africa. When Hassan Kayd was put on trial, the British judge acquitted him, because the court in Mogadishu had no jurisdiction to try them! Therefore this proves that, there was no union at all in the first place! I would be very grateful if you could find the name of the British judge, who acquitted Hassan Kayd and his group.

[HooBariiska]

Have you heard of google ni99a?

[X.Playa]

I don't think he was a Brits even , most likely an educated Indian, you can find his name in wasiir Cawil's book, cant remember the title of his memoir .

[ramzy2277]

X.PLAYA,

first let me express my admiration of all of your posts here ,since I joined this forum and I been searching for your informative and enlighten posts especially how you revealed the lies of the kacan idealogy and their mad mulla whom some of them even consider him the prophet of the dhofaar.

back to the topic, I came across an article on somalilandtimes, and in that article there i came across the british judge that aquited hassan kayd:

''The union between British Somaliland Protectorate and Italian Somalia was unconstitutional, since the parliaments of Somaliland and Somalia did not ratify it as a single act of union. Not a single year elapsed when the people in the north showed the initial signs of resentment about the ill-fated marriage between the two Somali regions. That feeling was expressed in 1961, when a young army officer by the name of Hassan Kayd - a Sandhurst graduate and other northern military officer's launched an unsuccessful coup in the north against the Somali government. These northern officers were brought to Mogadishu for trial. Citing the illegality of the union the British judge in the court dismissed the case against the officers on the grounds that as Northerns, they could not be tried and judged by a Southern court, because it had no jurisdiction over the citizens of Somaliland, as the Act of union between the two states was not enacted in to the law. 6" http://www.somalilandtimes.net/sl/2005/240/17.shtml "

[Hawdian]

I would suggest you acquire the book titled: From Barre to Aideed: Somalia : the agony of a nation by Hussein Ali Dualeh (1994).

You have good chance finding the name of the Indian-British judge's name there.

[Xildiiid]

As we all know Somalia has no legal claims on SL. One thing that get on my nerve is that our leaders are either incompetent or unwilling to destroy the Walaweyns once and for all by stating the truth and putting forth facts regarding the illegal unification process and the non existing union.

I feel sick to my stomach every time I hear useless ministers utter the phrase "wadankii laysku odhan jirey Somalia".

Next time I go to SL I plan to have a meeting with some of them and set them straight.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

X.


''The union between British Somaliland Protectorate and Italian Somalia was unconstitutional, since the parliaments of Somaliland and Somalia did not ratify it as a single act of union. Not a single year elapsed when the people in the north showed the initial signs of resentment about the ill-fated marriage between the two Somali regions. Thttp://www.somalilandtimes.net/sl/2005/240/17.shtml "

The act of union between Italian-somaliland and british-somaliland was retified by General elections of newly drafted Union constition of Somali republics.

Constitutional Referendum was Held June 1961 just a year after reunion of former britsh-somaliland and former italian-somaliland .
overwelming majorty Somali people north and south voted 90% Yes.

the union article Constitutional Referendum waxaa ku qornaa

midowga jamhuuriyada soomaalida waa mid muqadas ah oo aan marnaba kala goin karin.. haddii 8da gobolka ee jamhuuriyada Somaalida gobol ka mid ah doonayo inuu goosto waxaa cod la weydiinayaa dhamaan 8da gobolka ee ay ka kooban tahay jamhuuriyada SOOMAALIDA

marka waqooyilander stop fabarication of the history...

THIS IS THE RESULT OF act of union Constitutional Referendum in general elections , actually is the one of most strongest all the act of unions on this world even strongar than act of union in constitution of united states of americas ...

20 June 1961 Constitutional Referendum
Main Points: N/A
Registered Voters

Not Available

Total Votes (Voter Turnout)

Not Available (N/A)

Invalid/Blank Votes

Not Available

Total Valid Votes

1,943,451

Results Number of Votes % of Votes
"Yes" Votes 1,760,540 90.59%
"No" Votes 182,911 9.41%

[ramzy2277]

Interview with one of the military officers who participated in the military coup in 1961 and the details of that operation.

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part 2:

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note: four of the mentioned military officers are darood and one is samaroon.

[ramzy2277]

interview with abdulah koongo one of the military officers who also participated in the military coup.

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Part 2:

[Ron]

Siyasiyiin rabay inay S/Land ka go do Muqdisho ayaa ka danbeeyay inqilabka. Who were the politicians behind the Hasan Kayd's attempted coup in 1961? Who foiled afganbiga dhicisobay?

[ramzy2277]

Despite some common heritage
9
, the two countries where different in more ways than one.
Being under different colonial administrations for a long time, the difference between
Somaliland and Somalia was most obvious institutionally. Nearly all political and State
instruments, including legal, administrative language, education and Governmentorganization
arrangements
were
different.


There has been little trade, travel or cultural contact between the two countries in the past.
In 1960, less than one percent of Somaliland’s trade was with Somalia and few Somalilanders
had ever seen Mogadishu, the capital of the new Republic. The opposite was also true for
the Somalis in the South. Except for the Bandos
10
, few Southerners had ever seen the cities
of Somaliland.
Before the arrival of the European colonizers, the Somali-inhabited territories in the
peninsula were undemarcated. Except for coastal areas, the Somali areas were dominated
by free-ranging pastoralists with no sense of limitation by international boundaries. Scanty
historical records show isolated local political arrangements throughout the peninsula. There
is the mention of Somaliland to have been a powerful Sultanate at some stage in ancient
times. There are also similar records of advanced local civilizations in Mogadishu, Hobyo,
Merca, Herer and in other Somali areas. Against this historical backdrop, there is no record
of Somaliland and Somalia to have been a unified political entity ever in the history. So
legally, and in the context of the terms of the hasty merger, Somaliland and Somalia went
into union as two separate countries.
Support for the union was much stronger in Somaliland. In fact, Somaliland has been the
main drive-engine of the Great Somalia concept over the years since the beginning of the
independences movements in the nineteen-forties. As mentioned elsewhere in this paper,
the unification with Somalia was mainly seen as a steppingstone to the realization of Greater
Somalia and thus the recovery of the Haud and Reserve Area which the British ceded to ethiopia.

One day after independence, 27th . June 1960, the Somaliland legislature (Parliament) passed
a law which was intended to lay the foundation for the legal political union of the two
countries. This was the Union of Somaliland and Somalia Law. The authorized representative
from Somalia who was supposed to sign the document declined to do so. Thus the Law
remained without force in the south. Meanwhile, the legislature of Somalia approved on 1
.
July 1960 a significantly different document entitled Atto di Unione (Act of Union). While the
Union of Somaliland and Somalia Law was borne out of consultations with Somalia during
the immediate years prior to independence, Atto di Unione (Act of Union) was conceived
without the knowledge of Somaliland. The document was disgracefully in disfavour to
Somaliland, and distantly removed from the reality of the Union, so it was never signed in
Somaliland. The new Somali Republic was thus declared with no legal basis in place. No valid
Act of Union has been enacted .

An attempt to remedy this fundamental legal limbo was made on 31 January 1961. The new
National Assembly
11
repealed the Somaliland and Somalia Union Law and introduced a new
Act of Union, to come into force retroactively from 1
st
. July 1960. However, the act of
repealing was not effective in Somaliland since the Mogadishu-based National Assembly did
not yet have jurisdiction in the State of Somaliland. Together with Italian Lawyers, the
Southern dominated Assembly and Government proposed in June 1961 a so-called Unitary
Constitution, to be ratified in a referendum. A “Yes” vote
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in both parts of the Republic
could have provided a more solid legal basis for the union. But this did not happen.
The political leaders in Somaliland, especially Somali National League (SNL), with the
majority of MPs in the National Assembly, campaigned against the proposed unitary
constitution. Only 100
000 ballots were cast in Somaliland and over 63% voted NO.
Nevertheless, the verdict of the Referendum was frog marched though by 1.7 million
affirmative votes in Somalia. The total number of ballots cast in Somalia
13 was approximately three times the estimated number of eligible voters, indicating serious irregularities.

Somaliland's "No" vote was overwhelmed by a flood of fraudulent ballots in the South. A
number equal to the total of all cast votes in the North (Somaliland) was reported to have
voted “Yes” in Adan Yabal, a remote village in the South with no more than one thousand
residents. Thereafter, the term Adan Yabalaysi became synonymous with gross
exaggeration. statutory Law.
The last blow to the illusion of the Union took place in March 1963. A group of
Somaliland military officers The result of the constitutional referendum failed to resolve the New Republic’s was brought before a Mogadishu Supreme Court on Charges oftreason. The British Judge Judge Hazelwood, who was presiding over the case dismissed the charges on the
ground that there was no Act of Union between Somaliland and Somalia: The accused were all discharged since the Mogadishu court had no jurisdiction in the country where the offence was allegedly committed.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

De June 1961 a so-called Unitary
Constitution, to be ratified in a referendum. A “Yes” vote
12
in both parts of the Republic
could have provided a more solid legal basis for the union. But this did not happen.
The political leaders in Somaliland, especially Somali National League (SNL), with the
majority of MPs in the National Assembly, campaigned against the proposed unitary
constitution. Only 100
000 ballots were cast in Somaliland and over 63% voted NO.
Nevertheless, the verdict of the Referendum was frog marched though by 1.7 million
affirmative votes in Somalia. The total number of ballots cast in Somalia
13 was approximately three times the estimated number of eligible voters, indicating serious irregularities.

Again your fabricating the history as we speak.. first you claimed there was no act of union in newly formed Somali republic. and now your realize there was union constitution retified of general referandum in June 1961 which Somali people voted 90% Yes..

its tottaly false to claime northern somalia voted 63% no. tottal numbars which voted No was around 180 thousend people and the region which most voted No was Bay region in south Somaliya and Not northern Somaliya, actually according former somali prime minister Late Aun abdirizak he said north somaliya voted almost 100% yes the union Dastuur..

Somali constitutional referendum, 1961
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Somalia

A constitutional referendum was held in Somalia on 20 June 1961 to vote on the new constitution for the country created the previous year by the union of British Somaliland and Italian Somaliland. It was approved by 90.56% of voters.[1]

Results[edit]
Choice Votes %
For 1,756,216 90.58
Against 183,000 9.44
Invalid/blank votes 9,132 -
Total 1,948,348 100
Source: African Elections Database

Union constitution was was approved by 90.56% of voters... unity of somali republic also know as Somaliya is based on strong act of union whichs the union costitution..

Article ka hadlaya Midowga jamhuuriyada Soomaalida inay muqadas tahay wuxuu u qornaa qiyaastii sidan.

Jamhuuriyada Soomaalidu ee xuduudaheedu waa mid lama taabtaan ah. haddii 8da gobol ee jamhuuriyada soomaalida ka kooban tahay uu gobol ka mid ah doono inuu goosto waa in la weydiiyaa dhamaan 8da gobol inay gobolkaa ay u ogol yihiin inuu goosto iyo in kale

union dastuurka kuma qorna wax la yiraahdo italian-somaliland and british-somaliland waxaa ku qoran 8 gobol micnaheedu waa 8daa gobol dhamaantood xaq ayey u leeyihiin inay goostaan waa haddii majorty dhamaan cod la weydiiyo 8da gobol ay ogolaadaan.. 8dii gobol waxay noqdeen 18 gobol.. marka hargeysa and burco haddii ay doonayaan inay goostaan waxaa cod la weydiinayaa dhamaan 18ka gobol ee jamhuuriyada somaliya..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_con ... ndum,_1961

[Hawdian]

There was never a legit vote that was rectified. The union was bogus and its no surprised it has failed.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

There was never a legit vote that was rectified. The union was bogus and its no surprised it has failed.

the raw meat eating axmaar who showed puntiland coast guard ship and claimed to belong Icitriaafland

[Hawdian]

Calooley you're trolling. Do you eat all the waste inside the calool? I rather eat raw waslad than calooley with all the uus and waste hehehehe you dirty Abgaal. You eat the intestines of hyenas with all the poo inside. Can't be more dirty than Abgaal the uncultured donkey.