They still at it (Deefow chronicles)

[MrPrestige]

AUN


Posted on October 1, 2014
SOMALIA: Rival clan militias confront in central town

Mogadishu (RBC) At least three people were killed in a renewed inter-clan confrontation between rival clan militias in Deefow village,
about 40km east of Beledweyn town, Somalia’s central Province of Hiiraan.


According to local elders and eyewitnesses in the area, the confrontation started on Wednesday morning following dispute on water well
in the small rural village.


Among the three killed were civilians caught of cross fire.


Hiiraan Governor Abdifatah Hassan said the regional administration were informed about the renewed confrontation and that they were
prepared to dispatch security forces and team of elders to settle the conflict.

The renewed confrontation was the third one in the area in two years. More than 30 were killed in the area following similar motive militia
clashes late last year and early this year.


RBC Radio


http://www.raxanreeb.com/2014/10/somali ... tral-town/

[anzeloti]

Maamulka Gobolka Togdheer Oo Ka Hadlay Dagaal Duleedka Burco Ku Dhex Maray Laba Maleeshiyo Beeleed

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Hargeysa, August 2014 (Ogaal)- Guddoomiyaha Gobolka Togdheer Maxamed Muuse Diiriye, ayaa ka hadlay dagaal duleedka waqooyi ee magaalda Burco ku dhex maray laba maleeshiyo beeleed oo beryahan-ba halkaas isku hor fadhiyay. Deegaan lagu magacaabo Baliga Diiriye Aw-Guuleed oo ka tirsan degmada Kal-barre ee Gobolka Togdheer oo dhinaca Waqooyi kaga beegan magaalada Burco,ayaa shalay galab ku dirireen laba maleeshiyo beeleed oo beryahan-ba halkaa isku hor fadhiyay kadib muran dhul oo muddaba u dhexeeyay maleeshiyaadka, kuwaas oo la sheegay inay ku muransan yihiin baliga oo laga qoday barkado. “Horta Saaka ayaanu Maamul gobol ahaan go,aan ka gaadhnay in la aaso berkado cusub oo halkaa laga qoday, isla markaana amar ku bixinay in la

kala raro dhalinyarada labada dhinac ee hubaysan, kadibna halkaa laga sii amba qaado dhamaynta arrinta, intaa ka dibna waxaan galabta

anigu(Guddoomiye Maxamed), u soo baxay dhanka Hargeysa, markaa waxaa galabta la ii soo sheegay in, isla goobtii ay isku rasaaseeyeen maleeshiyadii labada Dhinac iyadoo ay markiiba kala gaadheen oo kala dhex galeen ciidan boolis ah oo markii horeba noo degenaa goobta oo ku kala dhex jiray,”ayuu yidhi Badhasaabka Gobolka Togdheer oo khadka Telifoonka ugu waramay shabakada Gudgudenews.


Waxa Badhasaabku intaa sii raaciyey oo uu yidhi, “Warkii ugu dambeeyay ee aan hayaa waa in is rasaasayntaa aanay ciddina ku dhiman isla markaana aanu jirin qasaare dhaawac oo weyni,waxaa la ii sheegay in hal nin ay xabadi madanaysay(xagatay) ninkaasina wax weyn ma qabo, dhanka kale ciidankii booliska ayaa kala dhex galay labadii ciidanna waa la kala qaaday. Waxaa jiray dilal hore oo kala gaadhay walina aan la dhamayn oo aanay ku kala bixin labada beelood laakiin dhakhso in arrintaa hadda ayaa laga hawl gelayaa.”

[Khalid Ali]

Maamulka Gobolka Togdheer Oo Ka Hadlay Dagaal Duleedka Burco Ku Dhex Maray Laba Maleeshiyo Beeleed

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Hargeysa, August 2014 (Ogaal)- Guddoomiyaha Gobolka Togdheer Maxamed Muuse Diiriye, ayaa ka hadlay dagaal duleedka waqooyi ee magaalda Burco ku dhex maray laba maleeshiyo beeleed oo beryahan-ba halkaas isku hor fadhiyay. Deegaan lagu magacaabo Baliga Diiriye Aw-Guuleed oo ka tirsan degmada Kal-barre ee Gobolka Togdheer oo dhinaca Waqooyi kaga beegan magaalada Burco,ayaa shalay galab ku dirireen laba maleeshiyo beeleed oo beryahan-ba halkaa isku hor fadhiyay kadib muran dhul oo muddaba u dhexeeyay maleeshiyaadka, kuwaas oo la sheegay inay ku muransan yihiin baliga oo laga qoday barkado. “Horta Saaka ayaanu Maamul gobol ahaan go,aan ka gaadhnay in la aaso berkado cusub oo halkaa laga qoday, isla markaana amar ku bixinay in la

kala raro dhalinyarada labada dhinac ee hubaysan, kadibna halkaa laga sii amba qaado dhamaynta arrinta, intaa ka dibna waxaan galabta

anigu(Guddoomiye Maxamed), u soo baxay dhanka Hargeysa, markaa waxaa galabta la ii soo sheegay in, isla goobtii ay isku rasaaseeyeen maleeshiyadii labada Dhinac iyadoo ay markiiba kala gaadheen oo kala dhex galeen ciidan boolis ah oo markii horeba noo degenaa goobta oo ku kala dhex jiray,”ayuu yidhi Badhasaabka Gobolka Togdheer oo khadka Telifoonka ugu waramay shabakada Gudgudenews.


Waxa Badhasaabku intaa sii raaciyey oo uu yidhi, “Warkii ugu dambeeyay ee aan hayaa waa in is rasaasayntaa aanay ciddina ku dhiman isla markaana aanu jirin qasaare dhaawac oo weyni,waxaa la ii sheegay in hal nin ay xabadi madanaysay(xagatay) ninkaasina wax weyn ma qabo, dhanka kale ciidankii booliska ayaa kala dhex galay labadii ciidanna waa la kala qaaday. Waxaa jiray dilal hore oo kala gaadhay walina aan la dhamayn oo aanay ku kala bixin labada beelood laakiin dhakhso in arrintaa hadda ayaa laga hawl gelayaa.”

Anzelot my walanweyn chauvinist friend the difference what u posted and what Mr prestige posted is in Somalia 30 people died in these clashes and in SL not a single life was lost , Somaliland qabil disputes dadku way ciyaarayaan cidi ma dhimato because people value life. Koonfurians dont value life , the clan disputes exist in SL but the guurti immediately comes in between and solves it , and the warring clans will not destroy their lively hood.

[sahal80]

Maamulka Gobolka Togdheer Oo Ka Hadlay Dagaal Duleedka Burco Ku Dhex Maray Laba Maleeshiyo Beeleed

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Hargeysa, August 2014 (Ogaal)- Guddoomiyaha Gobolka Togdheer Maxamed Muuse Diiriye, ayaa ka hadlay dagaal duleedka waqooyi ee magaalda Burco ku dhex maray laba maleeshiyo beeleed oo beryahan-ba halkaas isku hor fadhiyay. Deegaan lagu magacaabo Baliga Diiriye Aw-Guuleed oo ka tirsan degmada Kal-barre ee Gobolka Togdheer oo dhinaca Waqooyi kaga beegan magaalada Burco,ayaa shalay galab ku dirireen laba maleeshiyo beeleed oo beryahan-ba halkaa isku hor fadhiyay kadib muran dhul oo muddaba u dhexeeyay maleeshiyaadka, kuwaas oo la sheegay inay ku muransan yihiin baliga oo laga qoday barkado. “Horta Saaka ayaanu Maamul gobol ahaan go,aan ka gaadhnay in la aaso berkado cusub oo halkaa laga qoday, isla markaana amar ku bixinay in la

kala raro dhalinyarada labada dhinac ee hubaysan, kadibna halkaa laga sii amba qaado dhamaynta arrinta, intaa ka dibna waxaan galabta

anigu(Guddoomiye Maxamed), u soo baxay dhanka Hargeysa, markaa waxaa galabta la ii soo sheegay in, isla goobtii ay isku rasaaseeyeen maleeshiyadii labada Dhinac iyadoo ay markiiba kala gaadheen oo kala dhex galeen ciidan boolis ah oo markii horeba noo degenaa goobta oo ku kala dhex jiray,”ayuu yidhi Badhasaabka Gobolka Togdheer oo khadka Telifoonka ugu waramay shabakada Gudgudenews.


Waxa Badhasaabku intaa sii raaciyey oo uu yidhi, “Warkii ugu dambeeyay ee aan hayaa waa in is rasaasayntaa aanay ciddina ku dhiman isla markaana aanu jirin qasaare dhaawac oo weyni,waxaa la ii sheegay in hal nin ay xabadi madanaysay(xagatay) ninkaasina wax weyn ma qabo, dhanka kale ciidankii booliska ayaa kala dhex galay labadii ciidanna waa la kala qaaday. Waxaa jiray dilal hore oo kala gaadhay walina aan la dhamayn oo aanay ku kala bixin labada beelood laakiin dhakhso in arrintaa hadda ayaa laga hawl gelayaa.”

Anzelot my walanweyn chauvinist friend the difference what u posted and what Mr prestige posted is in Somalia 30 people died in these clashes and in SL not a single life was lost , Somaliland qabil disputes dadku way ciyaarayaan cidi ma dhimato because people value life. Koonfurians dont value life , the clan disputes exist in SL but the guurti immediately comes in between and solves it , and the warring clans will not destroy their lively hood.

Firstly I don't get what has this to do with the poster from waqooyi

Secondly we never had such reer hiiraan wars comparing to the war that happened in somaliland in the 90s and still goeing on in khatumo

Its better my friend to always state the facts regardless where it hails from

This war is not even political its a clashes between local farmers and can take in any place under any form.

I'm not with any side but to state the facts this attack come from the dir group watch the result!

Arabs say el badii azlam!

I hope these hawadles don't commit such crimes again.

[Khalid Ali]

The Somaliland 1990 war was not a qabil war it was a powerstruggle and a war for economic assets in the country, You cant campare that to qabils fighting each other in Somalia
By the way there is no war with khatumo , Khatumo does no longer operate in SL territories they have been removed from Somaliland and that was not a clan war but a mere political war.

reer Hiiraan need to focus on building a state with middle shabelle, instead of clan wars who is instigating these clashes by the way.

[sahal80]

The Somaliland 1990 war was not a qabil war it was a powerstruggle and a war for economic assets in the country, You cant campare that to qabils fighting each other in Somalia
By the way there is no war with khatumo , Khatumo does no longer operate in SL territories they have been removed from Somaliland and that was not a clan war but a mere political war.

reer Hiiraan need to focus on building a state with middle shabelle, instead of clan wars who is instigating these clashes by the way.

lol sxb I have heard and read enough about that war in SL, cigaal has taking advantage of a war between two habro just like the somali govt siding with one side in kismayo though losing it, on the contrast, cigaal and his groups won it just like abdi qasim group won it in kismayo against moorgan and OGs.

There's a clan alliance inside the power in hargeysa, we have yet to see faysal warabe as president

Sxb don't think you different the rest of the somali nomads, the only place clans fights over are mogadishu bc there's the kings palace or a authoritative rule like djibouti

Any president in the world have his own friends also the interests are stronger thenb democracy in the eyes of the world

Democracy is a local issue

The day you reach this I doubt your leaders will hand over the power bc of their world-wide relations, thus you will see another mogadishu!

Anyways this war in a very small corner of baadiyaha hiiraan is not effecting the towns, the only damage it did was that the the houses were burned in retaliationd of the farms getting burned( this culture come from dir-biimaal who burned HG-

Faqis though they could such thing but to a native people and in a result their houses were burned

No SNA is involving it there is the dir djibouti who said its a pure local clashes.

[Khalid Ali]

On the contrary , the HY and HA wars in Berbera in 1992 was over resources the HA my clan refused to hand over the keys to berbera port to the legit SL government of president tuur the war raged on 2 years. and president tuur could not dissarm the SNM faction in berbera. You are right that cigaal used the war to his advantage to consolidate his power in berbera in 1993. But the war was not about qabil but about the resources of berbera.

Faisal ali waraabe is not elected because of his clan he belongs to one of the numerous clans if he convinces his clan and the majority of SL to vote for him he can become president thats why he has now another candidate to run for president and he wants to become the hidden Ayatollah with powers behind the scenes. In the 2015 elections

Reer Hiiraan were peaceloving people when there is peace what is happening why isn't the local admin not doing about the fighting reconciling the warring factions ,you are right its the HG culture keep the HG out of Hiiraan keep their culture and tranquility will return , what do reer fiqi cumar and reer fiqi Muhammad want, what is their objectives

[sahal80]

Ok we are closer, cigaal has used clan card

Faqi mohamed want peace its the other jufo who refuses reconciliation without conditions

This war is about one thing: faqis are claiming the farm lands, its not about the villages like in what happens in marko

Village are considered just as war zone

If it wasn't ethiopia, faqis would have disappeared bc they live in a sea of hawale but ethiopia is keeping the order inside its borders, so every time the faqis would lose the battle they would flee in the inside the borders

A lot of reconciliations was done states that to live together peacefully

One of the two dir jufo has accepted it the other one says no, hawadles first should avacuate the farm land

There are small subclans who live within hawadle terrotories like loobage in ilko cadde and no clashes simply bc they don't claim the common farm land outside of their village

There's udeejeen in jawil

Sadly these dir are kinda sheekhaals and had respect in the past, most of their mothers are hawadle specially faqi muhumad who agreed on reconciliation without conditions

Warubul kacba I love my qabil but that's the true story, attacks comes from the dir side and these hawadle subclans will go all the way committing worse.

Ilahay nabad ha okeeno dadko waa ko dhibanyihiin

Xoolaha ma fogaadaan, biyaha hal mar aa la doontaa waayo kowa waxaa jira tooshash wato oo soo dheelmada ama soo jarmaada.

[thegoodshepherd]

Sahal,why are they claiming farmland?? Did Xawadle take farmland from them??

[zumaale]

Sahal's arguments in regards to this conflict smirks of utter hypocrisy. Firstly, the conflict originates from attempts by the Xawadle clan to appropriate farm land belonging to the Faqi Cumar clan in Kabxanley and settle drought stricken Cali Madaxweyne Xawadles from Maxas in the area. The area had been farmed by the Faqi Cumar clan for more than half a century. The nomadic Xawadles have only recently discovered the virtues of farming and became envious of the prosperous Faqis.

The Xawadles eventually resorted to brute force by employing Somali National Army Xawadle troops to destoy Kabxanley and later Deefow. Deefow is settled by Faqi Maxamed and their Sultan stood shoulder to shoulder with the Faqi Cumar after Kabxanley was burned to the ground and laid the blame squarely at the feet of the State Governor and the Somali Government for what happened. ( So Sahal's argument that the Faqi Maxamed are content with seeing their brethren's abode ransacked by Xawadle's wolves clothed in Government issued sheepskin is hogwash.

The two Faqis belong to the Surre clan and after the destruction of their villages sought the assistance of their kinsmen from Galgudud and Mudug where the Surre are better armed and battle hardened. They were able to raise a modest force to relieve the villages and their adjacent farmland from the Xawadle transgressors as reported in the Somali media recently. However, its only the beginning sadly as the Xawadle are using the Somali National Army armaments whereas as the Surre are fighting like the SNM did during the late eighties. Furthermore the chances of a peaceful resolution are slim because the Xawadle are hell bent on displacing and dispossessing the peaceful Surre scholarly clans of their rightful farmland and villages. There is an old Somali proverb,' xawaadle aan waran kaareebin wacad kaama reebo'. The Xawadle have a history of being treacherous when it comes to matters of war and peace as attested to by the above Somali idiom and their conduct in this conflict.

[sahal80]

How many usernames this got?

I don't like to involve in such clanish talk but I was just stating the facts I even have gaadsan friend and we talk about this, he said we started it and I said I'm totally against what happened to you guys we talk about it honestly

My friend I'm not with any side rather I'm stating what happened and I'm glad maamulka and dhaqanka are not with one side unlike of other places

As your claim that hawadle are new to this region its absolutely baseless! My next door is 60 years old and he was born in deefoow

Warabul kacba! Ask your kinsmen about reer ugaas and adan warsame(uurku xeeb subclan)

You are the ones who are settled in the middle of hawadle and you don't even reach beyond the borders while I can give you ethiopian statistics on who's the majority in mustaxiil up to qalaafe and shilaabo on the otherside!

Basically, northern hawadles are nomads then farmers such as agoon cabdalla and their herds drink from the river but life is changing so many of them have become farmers specially when al shabaab banned the NGOs as there was a lot of market demand and will get paid by the NGOs

Dir originally were sheikhs not farmersn the farm land belonged to the jareer until they subjugated them and took over them in the 90s, this is why jareer supports hawadle bc they use to puy their food from them for centuries

This is a dir website covers jareer- dir wars before hawadle days

"cammaara: Waxaan Xdhiidh La Sameeynay Labo Xildhabaan ...
cammaara.ca/feed.php?news=3833...
27 Aug 2013 ... ... may tagaan hada tuulada deefoow oo ka tirsan gobolka hiiraan oo hada ka dhacay dagaal beelood oo ay isku heystaan Fiqi maxamed iyo Beesha makane ? diiday degmooyinkii ay ...
Maleeshiyaadkii Saakay d
http://www.google.de/url?q=http://camma ... xzSOE5Svew
Deefoow - Wikipedia http://so.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deefoow

Now when these hawadle nomads started farming in their turn, the dir have attacked them and burned their farms

Obviously dir are not the hawadle size(4 subclans live around them) so they lost it

Let me repeat it again, attacking their villages is a result of war not as to claim them

What is the solutions?

Govt, djibouti and maamulka have tried every thing to stop this war without conditions

Hawadles have accepted to lay down their arms but dir are saying leave the farm land first

how can you claim a common land?

If your real reer hiiraan then you shouldn't have a problem with this when hawadle had no problem more dir settling in there because of that draught in the 70s

Now when you gathered and got a village on the ashes of jareer you started claiming banka lol

I'm out now!.

[sahal80]

Cali madaxweyne kulahaa iyo ciidan iyo baladweyne ka soo duuley kkk

This is just one subclan User:Shakur GBR - Wikipedia http://so.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shakur_GBR
YABAR DIGE wa beel kamid ah beel weeYnta ♥XAWAADLE♥ Waana Beesha ugu siyaasada kUlul Waxeyna ka mid yahiin Belaha ugu Badan Beelweynta xawaadle:

AADAN WARSAME
UURKA XEEB
DAGMOOYINKA AAY DagaaNEdit

BaledweYnE
Beerxaano
Bacaad
Helo buulo
kabxanleey
TUULOYINKAE

Deefoow
Xujuub
Hilo bacaad
Garaash
Dhoqor
Eyrab
Wiiro wiiro
Bakal
Baardheere
Laba geed
Go up to qalaafe and you talking about two recent villages lol
Mustahil (woreda) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustahil_(woreda)
Ferfer (woreda) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferfer_(woreda)

[Rabshoole]

A Gaadsan friend is your source, I don't think you know the history behind Surre iyo Gaadsan, Gaadsan as clan hate us (Surre) more than any other clan. Ask him about Rabdhuure iyo K5 if you get a chance. For the record they don't live in Hiiraan or its vicinity, Shaqo' iskuma leh.

Makane and Fiqi/M share border and so does Reer Aw Hassan, Jijeele. Your hawiye clan does not farm! Wallahi that's a fact, your folks are natural loojir iyo Geel herders, I remember when Fiqi Omar had issues with your geels grazing on there land and you know this!. Your arguments are baseless as usual.

Sahal's arguments in regards to this conflict smirks of utter hypocrisy. Firstly, the conflict originates from attempts by the Xawadle clan to appropriate farm land belonging to the Faqi Cumar clan in Kabxanley and settle drought stricken Cali Madaxweyne Xawadles from Maxas in the area. The area had been farmed by the Faqi Cumar clan for more than half a century. The nomadic Xawadles have only recently discovered the virtues of farming and became envious of the prosperous Faqis.

The Xawadles eventually resorted to brute force by employing Somali National Army Xawadle troops to destoy Kabxanley and later Deefow. Deefow is settled by Faqi Maxamed and their Sultan stood shoulder to shoulder with the Faqi Cumar after Kabxanley was burned to the ground and laid the blame squarely at the feet of the State Governor and the Somali Government for what happened. ( So Sahal's argument that the Faqi Maxamed are content with seeing their brethren's abode ransacked by Xawadle's wolves clothed in Government issued sheepskin is hogwash.

The two Faqis belong to the Surre clan and after the destruction of their villages sought the assistance of their kinsmen from Galgudud and Mudug where the Surre are better armed and battle hardened. They were able to raise a modest force to relieve the villages and their adjacent farmland from the Xawadle transgressors as reported in the Somali media recently. However, its only the beginning sadly as the Xawadle are using the Somali National Army armaments whereas as the Surre are fighting like the SNM did during the late eighties. Furthermore the chances of a peaceful resolution are slim because the Xawadle are hell bent on displacing and dispossessing the peaceful Surre scholarly clans of their rightful farmland and villages. There is an old Somali proverb,' xawaadle aan waran kaareebin wacad kaama reebo'. The Xawadle have a history of being treacherous when it comes to matters of war and peace as attested to by the above Somali idiom and their conduct in this conflict.

I agree with most of what you've said. Although you got a bit taint at the very end, fiqis are not being supported by tolkooda from mudug iyo galgaduud.

[sahal80]

Lol is not akhiru zaman that some one who's your guest in the name of the deen(in the old times the religious clans such as sheekhal were excluded from banning to enter the tribal lands that why they live in everywhere) teaches you what's your house is made of?

Ironically, hawadle is the only clan that's politically divided into farmers and nomads(reer koraad iyo reer hoosaad) and not on the subclan bases!

The guys who are ruling now are the nomads but the farmers are back and the next guy in the federal state will be from them!

Nomads control hiiraan during the wars but after the stability they will lose it quickly bc they are less smarter

This is the subclan they are at war with and they are claiming being attacked from baladweyne and cali madaxweyne kkk

Foreing sources: http://ccaps.aiddata.org/armedConflictL ... ow/3956580

[sahal80]

Lobage, reerow hassan the two faqi dir and one hawadle subclan are known in hiiraan as shanta culimo

We say hawadle iyo shantiisa culimo bc they live within hawadle!

We also say hawadle waa geedka shanta culimana waa kitaabka!

Macnha geed kitaab la suray!

Hadaba yaa asal ah? Ma geedka misa kitaabka?

These previously well-respected clans have joined the hiiraan opposition long time ago before this war due to HG involvement(opposition started after 94 war with HG but since hawadle and abgaal are allied hiiraan is politically stable)

"in Hiiraan Region [central Somalia] from Gaal Jecel, Baadi Cadde, Jijeele, Shanta Culimo and Ceyr clans have held a meeting in Barakaat"

WADAAD, WARANLE IYO WADANI http://somalitalk.com/2009/feb/02feb609.html
"Dhanka kale gobolka Hiiraan waxaa ka dhisnaa Nidaam dhinaca Wadaadka ah oo loo yaqaanay “Shanta Culimo“kaas oo aqoonsi buuxa ka helay beelaha kale ee ku dhaqan gobolkaas.

Labada dhulba Nidaamka Wadaadka waxaa hor-jooge ka ahaa Beesha Reer Ow-xassan, oo xarumo dhinaca tacliinta ah ka dhistay dhulka loo yaqaanay {Gal cusbo iyo Asharaaf} oo hoos tagta dagmada Feerfeer ee Dowlad Degaanka Somalida Itoobiya. Xarumahaas oo ey ka qalin jabiyeen hogaamiyaal dhinaca sharciga ah"