how pm abdiwali miscalculated the political reality

[sahal80]

Pm abdiwali has now two choices: take back his decision or face a motion!

If he had the world backing there were no need for a motion, they would have pressured on the president to stop wasting time and deal with him!

But president hassan has put in front of the westren diplomats one big importan argument: in oder to implement his vision2016 he needs a pm that can cooperate with him not abdiwali otherwise there won't be elections, implementaion of federalism etc.

For this reason they became silent about him going to parliament!

Means pm has to resign!

I have always said that farah abdulqadir agreements facilitated by ethiopia has to do with the govts relationship with egypt, infact he was on a secret visit to addis ababa about the egyptian generals that he received them in mogadishu and suddenly the adddis between raskamboni and the govt has appeared from no where!

Ethiopia has invited ahmed madobe while staying in kenya

Thus, farah abdulqadir had an ethiopian guarantee and he should last to implement these agreements

Here is clear like I always said that pm abdiwali has nothig to do with the three region agreement, it was farah abdulqadirs masterpiece!

Rumours are saying that ethiopia has called abdi wali gaas who had an agreement with the pm earlier, a devolopment that analysts see having motivated the pm in his cabinet changes

Seen their pics ,gaas looked unhappy about it.




Govts news

The same woman who led the presidents mps against saacid mp khadijo diriye is leading this motion against abdiwali!

Mp sharif hassan is gathering dozens of mps from his clan for the president

From what I seen they kinda secured so far 100 mps that are against the pm

Looks regretful

[Voltage]

Miscalculated?

Are you a two year old or so partisan you couldn't smell a far if it hit you in the face?

Abdiwali specifically targeted FAARAX Abdikhadir. Faarax Abdiqadir is a man who is the de facto leader of Dam Jadiid. He is also the man on an interview I watched while asked some describe you as the President's right hand he laughed and joked "I'm not his right hand but closer than it (basically I'm his brain and he is my right hand).

Do you think that anyone thinks Abdiwali Sh was thinking he would be on a trip to the ice cream shop when he told Faarax Abdikhadir "take this Minister of LIVESTOCK).

Lmao.

Miscalculated is expecting different. The man explicitly declared preemptive war and he did it publicly and loud.

I don't know what his intentions are, but I would bet a million dollars he didn't miscalculate anything.

He knows exactly what he is doing and why he is doing it even if we can't see it yet.

[sahal80]

Sxb we are talking about a hot national issue so you can have your opinion too

Its misculculating if the things go to they you was not planning or take the shape you was not imaging

Pres hassan has told him to postpone these khilaafat until the copenhagen conference was done

Ironically this issue is now one of the things that has back fired the pm, the khilaf must be ended before that conference!!.

[TheblueNwhite]

Farah AbduQadir sat to the left of the PM at the council of ministers meeting and gave a briefing of the Justice Ministry and the Livestock Ministry like he was supposed to.

The PM didn't even utter a word to him. How sad!

[TheblueNwhite]

Correction:
And not the Livestock Ministry.

[Voltage]

Blue it is just your lack of understanding about protocol.

These things aren't "effective" immediately.

A transitional period takes place whereas a conclusion of transfer is cemented by exchange of credentials.

Essentially, both are still responsible for their ministeries for the time moment until the process is concluded with a handover ceremony.

That's the problem with Somalis. Nin kasta maantuu siyaasi noqday.

[sahal80]

Blue it is just your lack of understanding about protocol.

These things aren't "effective" immediately.

A transitional period takes place whereas a conclusion of transfer is cemented by exchange of credentials.

Essentially, both are still responsible for their ministeries for the time moment until the process is concluded with a handover ceremony.

That's the problem with Somalis. Nin kasta maantuu siyaasi noqday.

Lol so your saying that yuulka will force him to evacuate his office? How? All the unofficial people that visited him have been arrested in front of his door! Loooooooooool

I think you can't even remember that it was farah who appointed himself!

[Osob101]

Voltage

You might think am bias towards Xasan Sheikh but I can honestly tell you as it stands now, it's looking very bad for Abdiweli because he is being out maneuvered but I just hope he goes down with getting some serious damage to Damuljadiid and goes with a bang. As of now 70% chance he is tossed out. The poor guy has severely did some miscalculation but he acted this way because he knew they were coming for him.

[thegoodshepherd]

What does it matter, even if another PM is appointed he will immediately challenge the President bringing the government to a halt again. Abdiweli is just doing what every Somali PM since Abdirashid Sharmarke has done. Which is directly challenge the president and see where the limits are. I think he has something up his sleeve, otherwise he would not have challenged Culusow directly. Abdiweli has a plan of action, and we will see how it plays out.

[sav12600]

What you guys need to know about yuulka is that he just came back
From garowe which means he's a made man, as for the farah dude
He can fuk off and deliver vaccines to xoolo

[sahal80]

Pm abdiwali was planning reshuffle since june

One of the factors that he was brought was to give the world a new cabinet image, instead of focussing on this, he started promising reforms in the new deal meeting in kenya!

Its unknown if they were the ones who give him such allusion but there's a westren conspiracy of never trusting people who carry islamic slogans so like we have seen sh sharif abondoning his cabinet team who imposed themselves in the first cabinet wich has made him in a weak position that led to his departure

The same conspiracy of getting rid presdent hassans folks so that his departure in 2016 can be easier may repeat itself but in their presence he may have a chance of getting re-elected

Even if there were no such allusion yet, yuulka has tried to use this posibility under the cover of cabinet reforms

He couldn't make big reshuffle bc he had fear of this taking him to parliament, so he made exchange of positions!

Who will take this as serious reform? Kkkk
Somalia and EU sign Somalia's first National Indicative Programme http://spr.fm/index.php?option=com_k2&v ... Itemid=122


The world diplomacy towards the somali govt differ a lot

The british diplomat nick kays main rival candidate was a norwegian diplomat

Each one of them has the same vision of his country under the UN cover!

So we have the london conference and now the copenhagen conference

There are businesss companies behind these countries policies

In this regard, norway and kenya as a regional country may have worked/work for the pm If he can build such diplomacy through kenya

Norway can silence the parliament for him

As for this moment norway waits to see who is gonna gain more points in the coming days

Kenya wants any change, if the pm wins that will be great for her on the other hand she expects a more closer pm than this!

Kenya has a hand in yuulkas cabinet change bc of the court issue

Even if the pm getes support from this group it won't work for him bc of the US and UK being behind the president except the parliament issue

US companies are behind govts decision to go to the international court in order to pressure on kenya

We have seen how when the pm was in london wasn't received by the pm or even the british foreign secretary mr Hague, he was received by the minister for african affairs!

UK knows that both of them don't cooperate eachother and the pm was planning to move the securiy file to his office!

We see now people getting arrested in front of his door lol iswaalwaal waalan!

[The`Republic]

Osob, I am not a supporter of Abdiwali Sh as PM. My forum record is crystal clear so much so you could be considered more his supporter than I am.

However, when Abdiwali declared war on Dam Jadiid by injuring them to the entire world and then insulted them by making the Godfather of the group (Faarax Abdikhadir) Minister of LIVESTOCK, something tells me he was not a man who was going to cry with despair if he lost the PM position.

The man actively waged war. How can you miscalculate when you pretty much left no holds barred?

That's the thing. You guys are all assuming he wants to stay on as PM when it could be he is sacrificing the present for his future ambitions.

The eye can't see all.

Abdiwali Sh may just be laughing himself to sleep to be honest. To him, if he stays nice, but I think he is so fed up with Dam Jadid that he wants to take the rest of the steam from the ship.

This was a ship cruising at high speeds until the Saacid infighting when it became a floundering ship, Yusur Abrar made it lose steam, now a protracted infighting such as is on thr cusp of happening effectively lays the new era nothing more than the transitional era.

Dam Jadiid can't afford a dramatic scene as was witnessed with Saacid.

Wallahi I wouldn't even be surprised if they are trying hard to negotiate with Abdiwali Sh. It took less than day for the Pres to ask Saacis to resign and their groups acted like high school girls avoiding each other. Now Faarax even dignifies the man who nationally targeted him by sitting close to him and there is zero talk of resignation.

[The`Republic]

Sahal, your man Sanbaloolshe baa kaa dhex hadlayee meel inaga fadhiis sxb.

[sahal80]

Sorry copenhagen is in denmark.

Its Norway companies who have a link with kenya.


Voltage sxb your logic is so superficial

Abdi wali is a pm thanks to hassan sheekh who gave him such post

Meantime he can make official statements in this name bc of his executive powers

But the question is can he stay after that? Can he even go with it?

He didn't gave farah his post to start with so you can say he moved him to livestock

The guy posts in his facebook I'm in my f-king office!

Farah has chosen his post by himself bc he was already dealing with the regions

So how can you state a non existing job?

Either one of them has to go and if you think its farah then see you after the motion!!

[sahal80]

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