I support Hassan Sh, but he is wrong.

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I support Hassan Sh, but he is wrong.

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I don't support Abdiwali Sh, but he is right.

I really like Hassan Sh. I don't think there is a single time I ever said anything negative about the man. During the Saacid resignation, I did support Saacid fighting back and staying.

Saacid is an old school Somali man. Xushmad badan, diplomatic, and does not like buuq.

Hassan and his allies were wrong to ask him to resign, but such was politics it brought friends against each other.

In this present case, I support Hassan sh more than I support Abdiwali Sh. I wrote a topic months ago hoping for a Vote of Confidence vote on Abdiwali Sh.

There is not a SINGLE policy pursued by Abdiwali Sh I support. Sahal tried to tribalize things when Osob, who is in Mogadishu, came in to show him not a single Marehan supports Abdiwali Sh that she has seen. I was actually surprised by how clear she was. She is not even Marehan yet relayed to me how the issue is so clear back in Somalia.

The only reason why I believe Abdiwali Sh is right in this fight is because the constitution is the only contract binding Somalis together.

While Sahal and Blue can snicker and constantly put forward the idea of bribing parliament (to what end? How is bribing something to look over? Why build up a tradition that will be hard to end later?), I believe the constitution is clear.

It is a shitty constitution. But it is clear. The President is a complete and utter figurehead. The PM is the executive of the country.

The constitution did not change under Hassan Sh. The man went into a "vote" under it so if he feels it is unfair, he should have read before signing up for it.

It has been a week since Abdiwali Sh did his reshuffle. The sky didn't fall over. Ministers didn't resign bringing down the government. A motion wasn't tabled supported by over 170 MPs. He wasn't asked to resign.

On policy and as a leader, I support Hassan Sh of the two.

On administration and confidence in government institutions, I support Abdiwali Sh fighting for his office.
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the republic, what you have to do is consider the following points:
- why should a PROVISIONAL constitution of a failed state be adhered to when it is the cause of confusion and regression
- why cant a prime minister submit himself to the ELECTED president DESPITE the constitution for the natiom's sake
why must the roles of president and pm be given to the same two clans when the country also consists of others
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Keep me out of you hallucination sessions.

Somali politicians are corrupt to the core. It's not something new to Somalis, they have been bribing each other since time immemorial.

To tell it like it is bothers you alot I see. Well, cure yourself, and keep me out of psychotic episodes.

Peace.
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Stop acting dramatic. You were mentioned in passing tone for a microsecond because you have made it a consistent habit to express delight in the fact the President (whom you support in the dogfight SIMPLY because he is from your clan) has the alleged recourse to "buy" votes.

Even Warsheikh commented in the inability of you to realize how oblivious you are to your indirect approval towards bribery in parliament.
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OneSomaliaHussein wrote:the republic, what you have to do is consider the following points:
- why should a PROVISIONAL constitution of a failed state be adhered to when it is the cause of confusion and regression
- why cant a prime minister submit himself to the ELECTED president DESPITE the constitution for the natiom's sake
why must the roles of president and pm be given to the same two clans when the country also consists of others
I am not sure your question is legitimate.

The constitution (no matter how imperfect) is the legitimacy of the entire government.

If you don't adhere to it, there is no government. No president nor PM.

It's like a bill of sale. If you don't adhere to the bill, the commodity has not been bought.

Is the constitution perfect? Far from it. However, Hassan Sheikh ran to be President under it. That's where the problem lies.

If he doesn't agree to presidential powers under that constitution, he should have not tried to become president under that constitution.
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The`Republic wrote:Stop acting dramatic. You were mentioned in passing tone for a microsecond because you have made it a consistent habit to express delight in the fact the President (whom you support in the dogfight SIMPLY because he is from your clan) has the alleged recourse to "buy" votes.

Even Warsheikh commented in the inability of you to realize how oblivious you are to your indirect approval towards bribery in parliament.
La la la.

Listen here, I dont support HSM walaa Baldy walaa Hussein walaa Hassan.

You got issues, and I simply asked you to not mention me again. You seem to have a knack of picking on someone because they dont simply agree with you.

I tell it like it is. I see it with my own 2 eyes, i dont need to read Jowhar, or Mareexan online to know what is up or wrong with these folks.

Good night.
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Who gives a flying fuck, they all take it up where qooraxda don't shine! Nicholas whatchama call him's bitches/Somalis.
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The`Republic wrote: I believe the constitution is clear. It is a shitty constitution. But it is clear. The President is a complete and utter figurehead. The PM is the executive of the country. The constitution did not change under Hassan Sh. The man went into a "vote" under it so if he feels it is unfair, he should have read before signing up for it.
Since you are so hung up on the constitution, and Abdiwali is the guardian of the constitution. Can you point out where it says, a State/gobol can be devided into two?
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TheblueNwhite wrote:Listen here, I dont support HSM walaa Baldy walaa Hussein walaa Hassan.
why am i being mentioned?
i don't need any support.
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Republic stop caring about Mogadishu politics.
You should only care about Mogadishu in terms of getting your clan's share of foreign aid. As long as your clan is getting its share of the foreign aid your interest is fulfilled. You should care more about what is going on in Jubaland. Just my two cents.
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Mudane hassan Shiekh needs to persevere & Raisal wasaraha Mudane Abdiweli Shiekh needs to adhere.
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thegoodshepherd wrote:Republic stop caring about Mogadishu politics.
You should only care about Mogadishu in terms of getting your clan's share of foreign aid. As long as your clan is getting its share of the foreign aid your interest is fulfilled. You should care more about what is going on in Jubaland. Just my two cents.
dirty jeberti langaab somalia is bigger and more important than any one group especially your lowly clan. ur treacherous yet stealthy plan to balkanize somalia for fear of hawiye domination will backfire as xamar will rule over a united centralised nation forever.

saying im part of somalia yet being free of mogadishu is very contradictory to say the least
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Re: I support Hassan Sh, but he is wrong.

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The`Republic wrote: Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:37 pm I don't support Abdiwali Sh, but he is right.

I really like Hassan Sh. I don't think there is a single time I ever said anything negative about the man. During the Saacid resignation, I did support Saacid fighting back and staying.

Saacid is an old school Somali man. Xushmad badan, diplomatic, and does not like buuq.

Hassan and his allies were wrong to ask him to resign, but such was politics it brought friends against each other.

In this present case, I support Hassan sh more than I support Abdiwali Sh. I wrote a topic months ago hoping for a Vote of Confidence vote on Abdiwali Sh.

There is not a SINGLE policy pursued by Abdiwali Sh I support. Sahal tried to tribalize things when Osob, who is in Mogadishu, came in to show him not a single Marehan supports Abdiwali Sh that she has seen. I was actually surprised by how clear she was. She is not even Marehan yet relayed to me how the issue is so clear back in Somalia.

The only reason why I believe Abdiwali Sh is right in this fight is because the constitution is the only contract binding Somalis together.

While Sahal and Blue can snicker and constantly put forward the idea of bribing parliament (to what end? How is bribing something to look over? Why build up a tradition that will be hard to end later?), I believe the constitution is clear.

It is a shitty constitution. But it is clear. The President is a complete and utter figurehead. The PM is the executive of the country.

The constitution did not change under Hassan Sh. The man went into a "vote" under it so if he feels it is unfair, he should have read before signing up for it.

It has been a week since Abdiwali Sh did his reshuffle. The sky didn't fall over. Ministers didn't resign bringing down the government. A motion wasn't tabled supported by over 170 MPs. He wasn't asked to resign.

On policy and as a leader, I support Hassan Sh of the two.

On administration and confidence in government institutions, I support Abdiwali Sh fighting for his office.
Wallahi this topic is amazing.

I don't even want to say anything corny, but this topic predicted something about reaping what you sow.

Amazing.
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