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200 thousand infantry

Doubt it was anywhere near that many.

Exaggeration, Somalia oo dhan can barely muster a force of 200 thousand infantry.

If you are the original Berberaawi please stand up

Khalid Ali wrote:If you are the original Berberaawi please stand up

my hooyos town.

Khalid Ali wrote:If you are the original Berberaawi please stand up

Isaaqs ancestors were in Iraq at that time

Estarix wrote:Doubt it was anywhere near that many.

it depends on the credibility of the writer himself, the year and how large the'' ba ba li '' administration used to rule in terms of land mass and population.

Perfect_Order wrote:

Khalid Ali wrote:If you are the original Berberaawi please stand up

Isaaqs ancestors were in Iraq at that time

Not the maternal side by the way Isaaq clans heavily Mixed with the Berberaawis especially the Habar awal My Clan , remember Isaaq are people who cherish the Blood line whether paternal line and Maternal line Habar magaadle and Habar Xabusheed never shy away to carry the Mothers Clan , what makes it so beautiful The Isxaaqiyun identity is both of two Worlds From Berbera To Sammarra.

Thing is, majority of the Middle Ages went unrecorded. There were so many wars and expeditions that uprooted thousands of townsfolk and not to forget in those days it was harder to combat disease/famine. If i remember correctly, someplace near Amoud (Awdal) use to house a big civilization of several thousands of Somali people and all the tombs/palaces have near-to-nothing crumbled. Heck there is even word of Somali marines who left the Indian Ocean centuries ago and have offspring that live in different parts of the World (though i'd say they most probably don't recall their Somali heritage)

https://ancientsomali.wordpress.com/201 ... of-africa/

800 AD CHINESE EXPLORER, TALKS OF HORN OF AFRICA


This is not as ancient as i would have liked but it still shows an interesting discription of life in east africa. With an account of the culture of drinking blood mixed with milk, still present in certain people like the Maasai / masai. it also talks about the dynamic of activity within those early communities. The somali or muslim berbers of some sort were attacking or taking slaves from the nilo-saharan people. supposedly these accounts are taken from a a failed expedition by the Chinese to repel the Muslim armies, a soilder finds his way back to china via this east africa to India route.

Text taken from:- Freeman Grenville: Selected Documents
-Esmond Bradley Martin:History of Malindi
-Duyvendak: China’s discovery of Africa
-Neville Chittick : East Africa and the Orient.
Also called Duan Chengshi

N-SOMALIA

Southwest from Fulin (the roman orient), after one traverses the dessert for two thousand miles is a country called Ma-lin. (is not Malindi) Its people are black and their nature is fierce. The land is pestilentious and has no herbs, no trees, and no cereals. They feed the horses on dried fish, the people eat hu-mang (the Persian date). They are not ashamed of debauching the wives of their fathers or chiefs, they are the worst of all barbarians. In the seventh moon they rest completely(Ramadan). They then do not send out nor receive any trade and sit drinking all night long.

BERBERA

The land of Po-pa-li (Bobali) is in the south-western Ocean. The people do not eat any of the five grains but they eat meat: more frequently even they pick a vein of one of their oxen, mix the blood with milk and eat it raw. They have no clothes, but they wrap around their waists a sheep’s skin which hangs down and covers them. Their women are clean and well behaved. The people of the country themselves kidnap them and sell them to strangers at prices many times more then they would fetch at home. The products of the country are ivory and “a-muat”(ambergris)(he is the first Chinese to mention it).
When Possu (Persian) traders wish to enter this country, they gather about them several thousand men and present them with strips of cloth. All, whether old or young, draw blood and swear an oath, and then only do they trade their goods.
From of old this country has not been subject to any foreign power. In fighting they use elephant’s tusks, ribs, and wild buffaloes’ horns as spears, and they have cuirasses and bows and arrows. They have twenty myriads of foot soldiers. The Arabs are continually making raids on them.

HOW OLD ARE THE SOMALI PEOPLE AND SOMALI LANGUAGE?


A popular misconceptions about the Somali origin, are that somalis are a mixture between arabs and other africans. Also further perpetuated by the fact several other east african populations speak semtetic languages, and so give the impression that somalis are also another group of semetic africans. This is clearly not the case, as somali predates both semetic and ge’ez languages, as i will show below.

https://ancientsomali.wordpress.com/201 ... -language/

our ancestors would be ashamed if they saw what we've become.