some likely pm candidates

[sahal80]

Big pressure money have arrived in xamar and the crisis getting longer will help yuulka

Reason is to pick some regional candidates

I got the first candidates name after halane and who's lobbying for him

Its ali haji warsame, backed by fahad yasin in order to turn the table on the current pm

He's an ex al itahad/preacher who pocome a regional politician so he's not far from the tribal politics but people say he's a soft guy

Has worked for ages in the UAE banks

From galkacyo

Internationally, he can be less influential as ex islamist so in this case, president will be more securer

Haji has attended halane base when he was a regional president candidate so I don't think the west will be against him

In case this pm goes at any time, within a week there should be a new pm to discredit the ICs worries

So imagin who's that already-made pm? he must be some one who have been around(in mogadishu) or was in contacts for ages!.

[TheblueNwhite]

Both, the Minister of Planning (MJ) and the Minister of Foreign Affairs (Samaron) were told they are the favorites to fill Baldy's spot.

Halane is out.

[Typhoon]

[Typhoon]

sahal i would like to take you serious but you don`t provide evidence to back up your argument.

I think your father works for the rag tag wannabes islamist regime of somalia you got a dog in this fight.

anyway, the the state department experiment in somalia has been successful.

sahal let me teach you the milieu that we are looking at

there was two policies competing in america in terms of war on terror; the afgan model advocated by the pentagon and the somalia model advocated by the state department.
the monkey obama claimed somalia as success that signaled to us policy wonks, that america is going to pursue cover politics and military engagement

the akwaan in somalia will not know what hit them once the full policy comes in to action.

this is what I have learned about the current model of how to fight aspiring islamist parties who want to govern or are governing

stage 1
let them rule

stage 2
amplify their actions and deligitimize them by their own ruling practises

stage3
float alternative and create a contrast between the floated alternative and the akwaan

stage 4
remove the ikwaan from power and cut the roots of the tree once and for all (by all means necessary covertly)

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Both, the Minister of Planning (MJ) and the Minister of Foreign Affairs (Samaron) were told they are the favorites to fill Baldy's spot.

Halane is out.

This would be interesting to see.

[sahal80]

sahal i would like to take you serious but you don`t provide evidence to back up your argument.

I think your father works for the rag tag wannabes islamist regime of somalia you got a dog in this fight.

anyway, the the state department experiment in somalia has been successful.

sahal let me teach you the milieu that we are looking at

there was two policies competing in america in terms of war on terror; the afgan model advocated by the pentagon and the somalia model advocated by the state department.
the monkey obama claimed somalia as success that signaled to us policy wonks, that america is going to pursue cover politics and military engagement

the akwaan in somalia will not know what hit them once the full policy comes in to action.

this is what I have learned about the current model of how to fight aspiring islamist parties who want to govern or are governing

stage 1
let them rule

stage 2
amplify their actions and deligitimize them by their own ruling practises

stage3
float alternative and create a contrast between the floated alternative and the akwaan

stage 4
remove the ikwaan from power and cut the roots of the tree once and for all (by all means necessary covertly)

I have no family interests in this govt at all, anyways don't worry bc I will revise my position soon bc the strategy has gone.

I know the US policies bc I'm pro-arab world that why I predicted the end of maliki

US old policies towards somalia was under pentagon, it was all about security now this file was moved to the state department hence the US embassy in mogadushu and establishing bilateral relations

The US govt seems now serious about somalia, wants to build the army

Was lobbying now its arab allies like bahrain, EUA, saudia arabia to fund the govt since a US financial aid needs the congress or that they don't want to involve in this now in the presence of a weak govt

I have mentioned both pentagon and state departments policies towards somalia in many threads

There r no contradictions now

Read for the ex somali envoy to the US govt abukar arman

http://www.somalicurrent.com/2014/06/28 ... n-somalia/

[thegoodshepherd]

Both, the Minister of Planning (MJ) and the Minister of Foreign Affairs (Samaron) were told they are the favorites to fill Baldy's spot.

Halane is out.

I don't think Samaroon is a Darood subclan

[original dervish]

They could bring in the best PM in the world......with Hassan Sheikh still in Villa Somali nothing will work.

[STARKAST]

clueless certain darood fighting for crumbs which is despicable to say the least, somalis can't work with 2 power positions, its better having just a pm or pres of somalia.

The system is set out to fail.

[KingWaslawi]

Both, the Minister of Planning (MJ) and the Minister of Foreign Affairs (Samaron) were told they are the favorites to fill Baldy's spot.

Halane is out.

This would be interesting to see.

Somalilander for PM

[sahal80]

There r no chances for waqooyi folks in the southren processes

Halane is a great guy but sounds like having escaped this time from the IC, president is carefull of an internationally and regionally backed personality like halane

Also ethiopia is backing these folks who have geographical connections with her like him, farah abdulqadir and the attorney general but its believed that halane is its presidential candidate for 2016!

You see where farah is taking the president to? From US to ethiopia!!

Ali haji will be the same as all these from his region but he may believes that he got this position bc of his islamist connections so he may put himself as the right person who can cooperate with dj

He visited xamar two times since he become a regional minister partaking some conferences lol

I personally dislike beyle, mainly bc of his character, I see him as a very hypocrite and fake person, cares only about his image and positions


Socially he's not qabilist, though he was brought by this pm, he hasn't been with anygroup

An economist who holds PHD

He's been meeting silanyo as part of freing delegations

Was believer in somaliland and he says somalia lol

Has built school in awdal

They use to compare samatar with him saying atleast beyle has built school what have you done for your community?

[original dervish]

Sahal.....you don't seem to get it.

Hassan Sheikh is finished as far as the IC is concerned.....he is no longer seen as a partner for peace & reconciliation.
It doesn't matter if he appoints one of his dj mates....aid and cooperation will still be frozen.

[sahal80]

Sahal.....you don't seem to get it.

Hassan Sheikh is finished as far as the IC is concerned.....he is no longer seen as a partner for peace & reconciliation.
It doesn't matter if he appoints one of his dj mates....aid and cooperation will still be frozen.

I'm talking about as leadership and control

If all these politicians care about somalia and the IC they wouldn't have...

All amisom/AU/ r not ready for this, he doesn't care about the the donors

Hassan controls the ports/turkey and arabic contributions~the bank~financies

His group will keep milking the same cow.

[sahal80]

Mohamud hassan sulayman ex fininace minister is said to be the one if the next pm hails from pl

Reason: close friend of hassan sheekh

Other candidates

Halane- farah abdulqadir

Ali haji warsame-fahad yasin

Halane is now in kismayo with the defence and interior ministers, looks like his chances r depending on some political achievements in there.

Just read that they reached military agreement


Waxaa booqasho qaadatay maalin ku yimid magaalada Kismaayo wafdi ka socday dowladda Federaalka ee Soomaliya kana koobnaa sidan:-
Mudane C/llahi Goodax Barre-wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha iyo Arrimaha Federaalka
Mudane Mohamed Sheikh – Wasiirka Gaashaandhigga
Mudane Hussein Abdi Xalane-Wasiirka Maaliyadda
Generaal Abdullahi Ceynte-Madaxa Hogganka Taakuleyna ee Xoogga Dalka
 
Waxaa dhanka maamulka ku meel gaarka ah ee Jubba uga qeybgalay shirka koox wasiirro ah oo loo qorsheeyey in ay iyaguna ay mataal u noqdaan maamulka Jubba Kuwaas oo kala ah:-
Mudane Mohamed Warsame Farah, (Darwiish) – Wasiirka arrimaha gudaha iyo amniga
Mudane Maxamed nuur Iftin – Wasiirka Qorsheynta iyo Xiriirka Caalamiga ah
Mudane Mohamed Macallin – Wasiirka Xannaanada Xoolaha, beeraha iyo kalluumeysiga
Mudane C/qani Cabdi Jaamac – Wasiirka Madaxtooyada Maamulka Jubba
Mudane Cabdi Cali Raage – La Taliyaha Madaxweynaha Maamulka Jubba
Mudane C/naasir Seeraar Maax – Afhayeenka Maamulka  Jubba
Mabaadida Guud ee laga wada hadlay
Wadahal dhexmaray labada dhinac waxaa diiradda lagu saaray qodobada soo socda:
Waxaa la isla meel dhigay in laga sameeyo gobollada hoos yimaada maamulka Jubba Ciidan qaran, oo isu dheellitiran iskuna dhafan lagana soo qoro jubbooyinka oo ay hadda isugu soo urureen nabad diidka Al Shabaab.
In maamulka Jubba helo taageero deg deg ah oo dhanka agabka iyo taakuleynta ciidamada.
In Guddiyadii wadajirka ahaa ee farsamada iyo arrimaha aminga si deg deg ah uga howlgalaan maamulka Jubba si ay u furdaamiyaan arrimaha kala sooca Ciidamada qaranka iyo diiwaangelintooda.
Waxaa lagu heshiiyey in tirada ciidamada xoogga dalka ee ka howlgalaya maamulka Jubba la qoondeeyo iyo  in xarumahii tababarada ee Jubbooyinka sida luglow iyo meelaha kale ee ay isticmaali jireen hoggaamadii 43aad iyo 60aad dib loo howlgeliyo si ciidamada loogu tababaro.
In dib loogu yeero wixii ka haray ciidankii qaranka ee Kenya lagu soo tababary wixii laga heli karo
In Ciidamada qaranka Soomaaliyeed ee ka howlgelaya maamulka Jubba si deg deg ah loola soo gaaro agabka ciidan maamlmaha soo scoda si howlgalkoodu u sii socdo.
In wixii ku saabsan arrimaha Booliiska iyagana laga taageero Ciidamada boliiska ee Jubba
In xafiiska arrimaha socdaalka si deg deg ah looga yagleelo magalada Kismaayo
In hey’adihii taageerayey Booliiska maamulka Jubba loo fasaxo dowladda dhexena ka taageerto wixii kaga xiran.

[sahal80]

The timing of this agreement shows that halane is the strongest candidate to become the next pm