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Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:55 pm
by AbdiJohnson
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/a ... -1.2888266
Somali communities are riddled with crime and murder through gangs and otherwise. Apart from the failed country of Somalia itself, Seattle and Minneapolis took in many, as an act of kindness, and they have murder sprees in that community coming out the wazoo. Drugs, fraud, theft, violent crime. Maybe these Somali 'leaders' from Toronto, whoever they are, should be working on why their communities work this way. In the US these communities are notorious for not speaking to the cops about their own, they protect those who kill their own people. Others should be asking why let them in if they continue as they used to live back home. There's no point moving violence from there to here, and in large part because why should the rest of us pay for it
Evidently not worried enough to help police. Next we'll be hearing about how racist police don't want to solve these crimes even though "victims are not cooperating with police" and "nobody in 'the community' knows anything". Same with Ottawa shootings, Toronto gang homicides.
Bringing immigrants into Canada who cannot and/or will not assimilate brings this kind of behaviour.This just a taste of the future. Our deportation policy needs to be toughenend. The government also needs to be tough on lawless immigrants!
Block the import of these damaged immigrants: They are not greatful to move to a quieter place, they just load up on benefits, many don't speak English nor French or work, even after years here, they continue to live as they did in their failed country. So stop bringing them in. Bringing more peaceful people in.
I'm not saying this to be snide or racist, but guess who's behind all the recent shootings here in Ottawa too... With no decent jobs waiting here in Canada for many Somalis when we then arrive, what do people expect to happen? They come from a very violent place so getting their hands on a gun here, selling drugs and getting in the occasional dust up is nothing for them. Maybe something the government should think about before admitting them to Canada?
Multiculturalism, along with political correctness is the bane of all democracies.
Close the doors to Canada. Such a large volume of immigrants over such a short period of time just contributes to ethnic ghettos. Somalia is a country with no laws, why are we accepting immigrants from a lawless, failed state?
Did anyone really think taking a people steeped in violent tribalism and aggressive religiosity and transplanting them into a First World nation would work out well?
Chances are a Somali was the murderer. Their community protects the bad guys.
:dead: Just like Dahir Aweys and the recent guy who surrendered to his kinsmen
These people come to our country and then segregate themselves into "communities".

They are barbaric and violent and are a burden on our resources, including health care.

Bottom of the barrel, stupid Canadians let them continue. That's what you get for importing some aliens.
Ahmed Hussain, National President

Canadian Somali Congress

This message is for you.

Who do Somalians think they are that they think they can come to this country, Canada, and behave in the lawless ways of Somalia? Your Somalian youth gang members are doing a lot of damage to the Canadian-Somalian immigrant communities. It is your job as parents, grandparents, the elderly, etc. to teach your children not to kill, maim or hurt others. Innocent Canadians are getting killed because of the gangs in the Somalian-Canadian and other immigrant communities.

I lived in Ottawa for a number of years and in one week I had disagreements/arguments with three Somalians. I NEVER get into disagreements with ANYONE and in one week I get into three verbal fights with Somalians. This problem is not just in Calgary or in Toronto. It is everywhere in Canada! Educate your Somalian children for crying out loud!

I am going to contact my federal MP and ask that politicians start looking into getting the Canadian immigration department to start deporting immigrants who get involved in criminal behaviour. I think whole families of criminals should also be deported. If you can't adjust to peaceful Canadian life then you have no business here.

CK

Toronto, ON
More of the wonders of multiculturalism. And surprise, surprise --- "Many of them are not cooperating"
So worried they won't cooperate with police ?
Yeah, Toronto Somalis are worried that these guys are coming back to Dixon Road...there just aren't too many jobs around for Pirates these days.
Expect the same after the 1,069 Syrian refugees get settled in. What's wrong with Canada these days, have we lost all common sense?
This is what happens when you never want to work, never did work, move to Calgary to sell drugs. No surprise here. Wake up people, this is the reality of today.
Little Mogadishu.
The Somali community does seem a violent one in Canada.
Why does Canada continue to allow immigration from places well known for criminal gangs? How far will we take political correctness? We now have gang problems in all our major cities thanks to immigration policy.
After they get tired of killing each other they will join ISIL so they can behead aid workers and rape women.
Of the 3 dozen Somali men killed in Alberta how many were work related accidents? Yeah that's what I thought too.
And I suppose the Canadian Taxpayers are on the hook for the medical bills of the wounded, who won't tell the Police who shot them.
My message to the Somali communities across Canada is this - welcome to our country, we will attempt to give you everything that you need to be successful here - a home, food, education, medical care, community centers and parks for you and your family to gather and play in - and yes we will also train you for employment giving you a future here in Canada. However if your communities are going to plan aggression against each other from coast to coast, then you will be told to leave this country and never to return. Canadians have enough of our own problems to deal with - we don't need to import them
To paraphrase that old saying, you can take the boy out of Mogadishu but you cannot take the Mogadishu out of the boy. Thugs shooting thugs.......... go figure.
Somali parenting is non-existent
I am,

Abdi "I think the West should halt immigration from Somalia" Johnson

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:05 pm
by BlueBlood
Qaxootinimo dhibkaan bey leeydahay.

Somali iyo dhib ma kala haraan. :snoop:

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:46 pm
by TheGrumpyGeeljire
AbdiJohnson wrote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/a ... -1.2888266
Somali communities are riddled with crime and murder through gangs and otherwise. Apart from the failed country of Somalia itself, Seattle and Minneapolis took in many, as an act of kindness, and they have murder sprees in that community coming out the wazoo. Drugs, fraud, theft, violent crime. Maybe these Somali 'leaders' from Toronto, whoever they are, should be working on why their communities work this way. In the US these communities are notorious for not speaking to the cops about their own, they protect those who kill their own people. Others should be asking why let them in if they continue as they used to live back home. There's no point moving violence from there to here, and in large part because why should the rest of us pay for it
Evidently not worried enough to help police. Next we'll be hearing about how racist police don't want to solve these crimes even though "victims are not cooperating with police" and "nobody in 'the community' knows anything". Same with Ottawa shootings, Toronto gang homicides.
Bringing immigrants into Canada who cannot and/or will not assimilate brings this kind of behaviour.This just a taste of the future. Our deportation policy needs to be toughenend. The government also needs to be tough on lawless immigrants!
Block the import of these damaged immigrants: They are not greatful to move to a quieter place, they just load up on benefits, many don't speak English nor French or work, even after years here, they continue to live as they did in their failed country. So stop bringing them in. Bringing more peaceful people in.
I'm not saying this to be snide or racist, but guess who's behind all the recent shootings here in Ottawa too... With no decent jobs waiting here in Canada for many Somalis when we then arrive, what do people expect to happen? They come from a very violent place so getting their hands on a gun here, selling drugs and getting in the occasional dust up is nothing for them. Maybe something the government should think about before admitting them to Canada?
Multiculturalism, along with political correctness is the bane of all democracies.
Close the doors to Canada. Such a large volume of immigrants over such a short period of time just contributes to ethnic ghettos. Somalia is a country with no laws, why are we accepting immigrants from a lawless, failed state?
Did anyone really think taking a people steeped in violent tribalism and aggressive religiosity and transplanting them into a First World nation would work out well?
Chances are a Somali was the murderer. Their community protects the bad guys.
:dead: Just like Dahir Aweys and the recent guy who surrendered to his kinsmen
These people come to our country and then segregate themselves into "communities".

They are barbaric and violent and are a burden on our resources, including health care.

Bottom of the barrel, stupid Canadians let them continue. That's what you get for importing some aliens.
Ahmed Hussain, National President

Canadian Somali Congress

This message is for you.

Who do Somalians think they are that they think they can come to this country, Canada, and behave in the lawless ways of Somalia? Your Somalian youth gang members are doing a lot of damage to the Canadian-Somalian immigrant communities. It is your job as parents, grandparents, the elderly, etc. to teach your children not to kill, maim or hurt others. Innocent Canadians are getting killed because of the gangs in the Somalian-Canadian and other immigrant communities.

I lived in Ottawa for a number of years and in one week I had disagreements/arguments with three Somalians. I NEVER get into disagreements with ANYONE and in one week I get into three verbal fights with Somalians. This problem is not just in Calgary or in Toronto. It is everywhere in Canada! Educate your Somalian children for crying out loud!

I am going to contact my federal MP and ask that politicians start looking into getting the Canadian immigration department to start deporting immigrants who get involved in criminal behaviour. I think whole families of criminals should also be deported. If you can't adjust to peaceful Canadian life then you have no business here.

CK

Toronto, ON
More of the wonders of multiculturalism. And surprise, surprise --- "Many of them are not cooperating"
So worried they won't cooperate with police ?
Yeah, Toronto Somalis are worried that these guys are coming back to Dixon Road...there just aren't too many jobs around for Pirates these days.
Expect the same after the 1,069 Syrian refugees get settled in. What's wrong with Canada these days, have we lost all common sense?
This is what happens when you never want to work, never did work, move to Calgary to sell drugs. No surprise here. Wake up people, this is the reality of today.
Little Mogadishu.
The Somali community does seem a violent one in Canada.
Why does Canada continue to allow immigration from places well known for criminal gangs? How far will we take political correctness? We now have gang problems in all our major cities thanks to immigration policy.
After they get tired of killing each other they will join ISIL so they can behead aid workers and rape women.
Of the 3 dozen Somali men killed in Alberta how many were work related accidents? Yeah that's what I thought too.
And I suppose the Canadian Taxpayers are on the hook for the medical bills of the wounded, who won't tell the Police who shot them.
My message to the Somali communities across Canada is this - welcome to our country, we will attempt to give you everything that you need to be successful here - a home, food, education, medical care, community centers and parks for you and your family to gather and play in - and yes we will also train you for employment giving you a future here in Canada. However if your communities are going to plan aggression against each other from coast to coast, then you will be told to leave this country and never to return. Canadians have enough of our own problems to deal with - we don't need to import them
To paraphrase that old saying, you can take the boy out of Mogadishu but you cannot take the Mogadishu out of the boy. Thugs shooting thugs.......... go figure.
Somali parenting is non-existent
I am,

Abdi "I think the West should halt immigration from Somalia" Johnson
f-king racists, they can't take it that Somalis are more hard working than them so they come up with this bullshit so they can generalize all Somalis as lazy and backward.

Every community has its bad apples and no one is perfect. These bigoted idiots are trying to portray Somalis negatively because of the action of the minority. Most Somalis I know are hard working and law abiding citizens and they don't deserve to be portrayed negatively because of the few Somalis who turn to crime.

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:13 pm
by Methylamine
Lol I love how these people use the deportation line not knowing most of these guys involved in the shootings were born here

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:04 pm
by Hyperactive
they need to change the laws, deport any one who commit crimes where their parents come from.

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:08 pm
by SelfD
I blame Toronto. They are the ones known for gangs, apart from the motorcycle gangs (hells angel and what not).

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:03 pm
by Machiavelli2
Canada should adopt the death penalty and gang chain harsh conditions for all violent criminals in jail. You will see few lethal injected Abdi's and others humiliated in the jail system, parents will wake up and the next generation will sort themselves out. There are as many Somali youths in Saudi Arabia as there are in Toronto, and you don 't see them dwelling in crimes.

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:20 pm
by Lancer
Calgary police questioned at least 15 people and report that many are not cooperating with their investigation.
Smh at least cooperate with the police.

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:58 pm
by barbarossa
BlueBlood wrote:Qaxootinimo dhibkaan bey leeydahay.

Somali iyo dhib ma kala haraan. :snoop:
This has got absolutely nothing to do with being qaxooti! If it had, we would have heard of qaxootis from other countries experiencing similar phenomena as us, Skinnies.

Our apparent preponderance in engaging in violent crimes can be easily imputed to our cultural background. We are, without a doubt, as primitive, rapacious, bellicose a society, as any that ever trod the Earth, and are yet to display the least inclination to ever live by the rule of law like the civilized world.

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:40 pm
by LobsterUnit
hyperactive wrote:they need to change the laws, deport any one who commit crimes where their parents come from.
you should be deported to baadiyaha ogadenia.

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:47 pm
by Jove
The Somali community is suffering from a PR problem. The news media is showering attention on the most depraved members of the community while ignoring those who, despite incredible odds against them, have built great lives and add to the society. There are tens of thousands of Somalis in the universities, operating businesses, paying taxes, and contributing to their communities as respectable citizens. It's our duty as Somalis to highlight this and let it be known to others. It's also important for the community to band together to stop defamation in the media. Follow the example of the Jews. They are expert in showcasing their community's success while vigorously protesting any display of anti-Jewish news or opinion, even if it is valid. I would encourage the OP instead of being a mouthpiece for anti-Somali sentiment to start doing something to better the community. Otherwise do everyone a favor and STFU, you are not helping the situation.

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:19 pm
by Gabre
hyperactive wrote:they need to change the laws, deport any one who commit crimes where their parents come from.
Sheekhuna hyper from Qatar, this is not gulf Arabia where they willy nilly strip people of their citizenship and leave them stateless. This is Canada where we have human rights.


http://nabdapp.com/jump_android.php?id= ... ate=dialog

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/tr/poli ... nship.html


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/01/wo ... ?referrer=

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:30 pm
by XimanJaale
Jove wrote:The Somali community is suffering from a PR problem. The news media is showering attention on the most depraved members of the community while ignoring those who, despite incredible odds against them, have built great lives and add to the society. There are tens of thousands of Somalis in the universities, operating businesses, paying taxes, and contributing to their communities as respectable citizens. It's our duty as Somalis to highlight this and let it be known to others. It's also important for the community to band together to stop defamation in the media. Follow the example of the Jews. They are expert in showcasing their community's success while vigorously protesting any display of anti-Jewish news or opinion, even if it is valid. I would encourage the OP instead of being a mouthpiece for anti-Somali sentiment to start doing something to better the community. Otherwise do everyone a favor and STFU, you are not helping the situation.
Wise words my love :up:

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:34 pm
by Hyperactive
Gabre wrote:
hyperactive wrote:they need to change the laws, deport any one who commit crimes where their parents come from.
Sheekhuna hyper from Qatar, this is not gulf Arabia where they willy nilly strip people of their citizenship and leave them stateless. This is Canada where we have human rights.


http://nabdapp.com/jump_android.php?id= ... ate=dialog

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/tr/poli ... nship.html


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/01/wo ... ?referrer=

if somalis do not respect the humanrights given to them , those break the law and order and spread mischeif on earth needs to take them off the humanrights that given to them.

Re: Canadians riding the wave of anti-Somali sentiment

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:39 pm
by Gabre
This is what prisons are for. You can't just start deporting people born here though, that opens the door to abuse in the name of security. We see the effects of how this abuse happens when it's allowed to start in Bahrain, Kuwait, KSA, UAE, etc.