west is backing the return of sharifoo and guess who will be his regional ally?

[sahal80]

You remember my breaking news of sh sharif attending oxford months ago before the local media?

It means I'm closely following his circles!

We have revealed before the UAE backing him and will fund his returning process

But now I got the information that the west is backing him too!

Former pm abdiwali sh had close to contacts with ala sheekh during the motion, he even got 9 votes of hassan sheekhs subclan out of their 14 mps also figures from cadaado-casha haji and abdulqadir sheekh

Abdulqadir sheekh has picked saacid for pm but bc of other ala sheekh figures exposing his connections with ahmed abdisalam, sharif has changed his mind in the last hours and replaced him with farmajo who was suggested by abdikarim jamac, his adviser whom they had close family connections through their wives

So they r widening now the coalition and yuulka wants to be their pm in 2016!

It could be tactics though bc not all coalitions come to the realization!

As for the rumours of yuulka moving to nairobi or out of the villa, yes hes moving out but not going to nairobi, will be renting home in xamar and probably amisom will be guarding him

These devolopments may have to do some thing with the current cabinet!.

[xiimaaya]

I'd back that man even though I'm darood. I know he has clean heart.

[GIJaamac]

Kaas intuu noo soo laabanlahaay, Xasan gurguurte 10 sano kursiga ha iska heysto.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Kaas intuu noo soo laabanlahaay, Xasan gurguurte 10 sano kursiga ha iska heysto.

[GAMES]

Sahal80,

[sahal80]

Sahal80,

dhaadhaanka piss off and stop following me 24/7

[GAMES]

Sahal80 I'd bet you that Sheikh Shariifow ain't coming back in 2016. He retired from politics and said it so himself. Watch a video interview he gave to one of the Somali media outlets.

You have been pretty off in some of your predictions of lately, and this is probably one of it.

[sahal80]

Who said he's coming back you f-king thick and where my prediction lies in this?

Take your little horizon out of this

[TheMailMan]

Sahal80 I'd bet you that Sheikh Shariifow ain't coming back in 2016. He retired from politics and said it so himself. Watch a video interview he gave to one of the Somali media outlets.

You have been pretty off in some of your predictions of lately, and this is probably one of it.

Abdirahman Baadiyow (Abgaal) is angling to be the next Somali President. I'm pretty sure he's aligned with the Ikhwan of Somalia, and he's building up popular support around the country. I'm expecting to see him in the next Presidential Race

[sahal80]

Sahal80 I'd bet you that Sheikh Shariifow ain't coming back in 2016. He retired from politics and said it so himself. Watch a video interview he gave to one of the Somali media outlets.

You have been pretty off in some of your predictions of lately, and this is probably one of it.

Abdirahman Baadiyow (Abgaal) is angling to be the next Somali President. I'm pretty sure he's aligned with the Ikhwan of Somalia, and he's building up popular support around the country. I'm expecting to see him in the next Presidential Race

you don't know the geopolitics!

Badiyow is typical islaax therefore has no chances!

Abdulqadir osoble who's salifiya jadida aka ictisam was ahead of him in the last elections!

Its about dj and ala sheekh but the later has this time more arab and international backing though dj has more resources

I'm not happy though same clan being in the power, would like new faces from other clans.

[GAMES]

Sahal80 I'd bet you that Sheikh Shariifow ain't coming back in 2016. He retired from politics and said it so himself. Watch a video interview he gave to one of the Somali media outlets.

You have been pretty off in some of your predictions of lately, and this is probably one of it.

Abdirahman Baadiyow (Abgaal) is angling to be the next Somali President. I'm pretty sure he's aligned with the Ikhwan of Somalia, and he's building up popular support around the country. I'm expecting to see him in the next Presidential Race

No more Abgaals, we've had 2 or 3 of them so far. Let someone else take the helm in 2016.

[original dervish]

[Kornel]

Sahal80 you are right on a couple of things but you make a mistake when it comes to Ala-sheikh and Sheikh Sharif.

Firstly you must know that Sheikh Sharif was never a part of "Ala-sheikh" and it was all a marriage of convenience that was consummated in Asmara when it became obvious to both Sheikh Sharif and his supporters that the break up of shabaab and so called "moderate elements of the ICU" would never happen, those that did break off chose not to support sharif because they still considered him a back stabber of epic porportions.
They needed to be at the center of power and he needed a wider network of financiers, go betweens and ideologues to stay in power, but their control in Villa Somalia was never as total as Damu-jadiids control over Hassan Sheikh since he is a member of the association and not a high ranking one at that.
Indeed Sheikh Sharif counter weighted elements of Ala-sheikh in his government with the usual tribal politics of any somali leaders, indeed infighting became so bad between them that the Ala-sheikh came out of goverment to form the first opposition forum namely the Daljir forum.

But there are other reasons why I think that the whole issue of Sheikh Sharif is a red herring:

1. I have it on very good sources that Ala-sheikhs candidate this time will be Darood, I am Hawiye and even I realize that it will be very hard to sell another Hawiye candidate let alone an Abgal one, a darood candidate from the smaller subclans deeply intertwined with Ala-sheikh would break the anti-hawiye coalition, get clan cheerleaders on side [like so many people here on Somalinet who still live in the 90s mentally] and be presented as a clear break from the past.

2. They know they have a PR problem, just mentioning Ala-Sheikh bares teeth and gets stomachs rumbling, they are seen as another exclusivist, corrupt and non-popular political group cloaked in islamism, they are not stupid enough to compound that with another corrupt abgal candidate.

3. Depending on how the election is going to happen they need to have a much broader base of political support, although I KNOW that a one man one vote election will not happen in Somalia in 2016, the chances of the presidents term being extended are zero, expect a caucus type of election with a mix of district, state and clan representatives of more than 3,000 electors [So as to make the effect of corrupt practices lower and more expensive].
They realise this and thats why they have started building a formidable network of radio stations, universities and colleges as well as their new party http://www.daljirparty.so.
How would they get Sheikh Sharif elected by so many electors?

4. But things change and who knows what can happen in so many years time?

[original dervish]

Anyone is better than Hassan Sheikh.

[sahal80]

Sahal80 you are right on a couple of things but you make a mistake when it comes to Ala-sheikh and Sheikh Sharif.

Firstly you must know that Sheikh Sharif was never a part of "Ala-sheikh" and it was all a marriage of convenience that was consummated in Asmara when it became obvious to both Sheikh Sharif and his supporters that the break up of shabaab and so called "moderate elements of the ICU" would never happen, those that did break off chose not to support sharif because they still considered him a back stabber of epic porportions.
They needed to be at the center of power and he needed a wider network of financiers, go betweens and ideologues to stay in power, but their control in Villa Somalia was never as total as Damu-jadiids control over Hassan Sheikh since he is a member of the association and not a high ranking one at that.
Indeed Sheikh Sharif counter weighted elements of Ala-sheikh in his government with the usual tribal politics of any somali leaders, indeed infighting became so bad between them that the Ala-sheikh came out of goverment to form the first opposition forum namely the Daljir forum.

But there are other reasons why I think that the whole issue of Sheikh Sharif is a red herring:

1. I have it on very good sources that Ala-sheikhs candidate this time will be Darood, I am Hawiye and even I realize that it will be very hard to sell another Hawiye candidate let alone an Abgal one, a darood candidate from the smaller subclans deeply intertwined with Ala-sheikh would break the anti-hawiye coalition, get clan cheerleaders on side [like so many people here on Somalinet who still live in the 90s mentally] and be presented as a clear break from the past.

2. They know they have a PR problem, just mentioning Ala-Sheikh bares teeth and gets stomachs rumbling, they are seen as another exclusivist, corrupt and non-popular political group cloaked in islamism, they are not stupid enough to compound that with another corrupt abgal candidate.

3. Depending on how the election is going to happen they need to have a much broader base of political support, although I KNOW that a one man one vote election will not happen in Somalia in 2016, the chances of the presidents term being extended are zero, expect a caucus type of election with a mix of district, state and clan representatives of more than 3,000 electors [So as to make the effect of corrupt practices lower and more expensive].
They realise this and thats why they have started building a formidable network of radio stations, universities and colleges as well as their new party http://www.daljirparty.so.
How would they get Sheikh Sharif elected by so many electors?

4. But things change and who knows what can happen in so many years time?

Thanks for your info but let me tell you one thing; sheekh sharif was part of those who carried the title al ikhwan and he partaked in an islamist reconciliation meetings in xamar suggested by al turabi during cumar cart govt

Cumar carte had good relations with the arab world so he asked the islamists each group to provide him its folks for scholarship, sharif was among the students in the ikhwan group and I have been told this by people who were part of this but the project has failed some how

Another proof is that when sharif and abdishakur his cayr minister were back from sudan, they went to al islaax offices asking for a high profile job, this was when islax were united and abdikarim guleed was in its political office-was fired during the courts for his support to them-

Al islaax said they don't wanna ala sheekh folks in their offices but can join their bases!!

When they reached the power, abdishakur has treated all islaax like a shyt closing on them all the govts doors!

You may not know but, unlike of dj, ala sheekh intellectuals were operating from behind the scenes and was them who picking all the farmajos technocrat government except few ministers!

Farmajo was picked by abdikarim jamac, sharifs adviser after ala sheekh intellectuals become against saacid bc he had connections with ahlusunna and ethiopian allied figures like ahmed abdisalam

Saacid was put forward through abdulqadir sheekh who had and still close relations with hasho haji

He's now cooperating with yuulka behind the doors for the future agenda

After gaas govt, ala sheekh lost the power and its the reason why sharif wasn't re-elected bc he isolated them and their share and control of the cabinet

Arman was the somali envoy to the US and the he was relaced by some one else

Abdirashid hashi has lost his ministerial post-maybe you mean this lelkase guy who's now the director of heritage lol-

Abdi aynte was picked by omar abdirashid not hassan sh as many think

Daljir is the xerow ala sheekh and they have their own policies different than the intellectual wing

Perhaps abdi caynte is consiladating the intellectuals presence in the international arena wich supports my theory of this group not wanting to land yet in 2016 bc of the the corrupt institutions

Their candidate won't be a xerows rather one of them

Daljir is totally different group backed by the UAE and now west see them being closer to their vision and having no agenda.