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Hallelujah Its official Somaliland Somalia talks have collapsed

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We were expecting this one way or the other but let me Brief you since i have been following the very first day Somaliland entered talks with the Mogadishu government of Sh sharif. The Somalia and Somaliland conflict is the strongest in the region and the biggest issue every Somali in the Horn has an opinion its a sensitive subject for Majority Somalilanders and Koonfurians the complex relationship between the 2. The Somalia and Somaliland conflict is sensational especially for the Somali Media. Now lets put things into perspective in 2012 the British Government held a conference in that conference Somalia and Somaliland were called upon to hold talks in order to clarify their future relations.So the First Talks were held in London than in Dubai between sharif Ahmed and President Siilaanyo. Followed by Ankara 1 , Istanbul 1 istanbul 2 istanbul 3. Djibouti 1 , Istanbul 4 the last one In total times the have met 9 TImes and have agreed one Point the Airspace agreement which the Somalia government failed to Implement. The talks are so difficult because Somalia stands that Somalia and Somaliland are one country and that 2 sides should remain United the former Somali republic. Somalia and Somaliland United in 1960 to form the Somali republic not Somalia, and Somaliland stands that Somaliland statehood is sacrosanct. The Blue flag represent not just Somalia and Somaliland But Jabuuti and Kenya NFD and Ethiopias Kilil Somali. But for many Somalis those countries are gone but for Somalilanders the Somaliland state is very important and its independence. The 2 sides could not agree on anything in the Last talks in Djibouti they agreed to talk about the disputed contention but before they could the Somalia side sabotaged the talks and it was staged.

There are 2 different strategies adopted by Mogadishu and Hargeysa, Mogadishu their interest is to prolong these talks thats the strategy thats why it took 2 and a half years to address the Elephant in the Room. For Somaliland its lets get to Business and address what is at stake. Somaliland strategy was to broaden these talks into international talks , the Koonfurians wanted prolong the talks or were stalling there were to many administrations and prime minister. Remember back in 2013 when the SFG was trying to appease Somaliland especially HSM and i said never trust Walanweyns for he has a plan. He first wanted to re unite Somaliland with Somalia and than try to score big and than use that to be re elected , i mean what Southern leader will be the greatest the one that makes peace with Somaliland, and solves the Somalia and Somaliand conflict.

But Somalia never wanted to talk about the disputed issue between the 2 countries. Somaliland also had a plan for these talks to fail, Somaliland was never happy how slow these talks were going , the Somaliland government knew Somalia was sending dirty woqoyis to Istanbul. But they flew to Istanbul any way just so that the talks collapsed. Somaliland gained 2 points from these talks the Air space agreement and that Somalia admitted that they committed atrocities against the people of Somaliland for the future talks this is very important. In the last talks they agreed that Djibouti can play a mediating role the SL side wanted more countries to Join as Mediators in Europe and Africa.

But Somalia refused and only wanted Djibouti. Somalia is avoiding arbitrators, because it knows than it will lose. Minister Maxmmad Biixi Yoonis pointed that out once in a video. I will find the video. Now SL has 9 Communiques Somalia and Somaliland talked and not one has been implemented all on the side of Somalia it can show this to the countries that have organized these talks to begin with UK and Sweden Norway France. Somaliland has hard evidence and it can now show that the Somalia and Somaliland talks cant continue with Mediators. We thank the Turkish government for the Facilitating role they have played. The Koonfurians wanted their plan was to let one mediating country join the talks every time we meet and it would reach a solution in 7 years times. But they also felt that the talks would have failed now if the elephant in the room wasn't addressed, So what did they do they brought Dirty woqoyis into the shir they knew that SL will never sit with them SL will not sit with the Dirty woqoyis those who sought refuge in Mogadishu qaxootis. And the talks would have collapsed that was the aim.

Xamar has chosen Djibouti to be Mediator as an IGAD country Somaliland chooses Kenya.

The 2 delegations will go home Tomorrow

Well done Halyey Maxammad Biixi Yoonis Somaliland can be proud of you

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Anisom run southern somalia. These talks are meaningless, and lead nowhere. The so called politicans in southern somalia need foriegn troops to protect themselves from thier own citzens- they are powerless, i would'nt take what they seriously, if i was you.
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I don't quite understand now. What makes you so happy ? You are still the same unrecognized hopeless shithole you were before ? What do you think europeans will do for you from now on ? :lol:
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Gjamac how many Habargedir have slaughtered each other Galguduud in the month of February

Marka taa aynu ka gudubnay we are happy because our leaders showed the middle finger to the dirty woqoyis and the talks have collapsed people were waiting for this the past 20 years. Europeans will not do anything for us everything we have done we have done on our own , we never rely on any one we are not walanweyns. But its Politics arintan wey ka weyntahay Habargedirta isku garwaycaya guriceel
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Khalid Ali,

Finally you gave halyeey Bixi Younis some props, beri adigo cayaaya yaanan ku arkin :lol:

Odayga wuu dedaaliya :up:
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The delegates from Somalia, have already left Turkey. They refused the condition of Somaliland, calling it 'delusional'. Kudos to the Somali government. Either way, the upper hand will always go to Wanlaweyn. The triangle state will remain in the same situation, whereas Wanlaweyn gets more peaceful and stronger. We are a sovereign recognised country, obviously Somalia will forever have the upper hand.

I don't see why the separatist's will be in a celebratory mood. Not like they have any options anyways.
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Garad abti so ma fiicnid

I was never against Maxmamd Biix Yoonis he is my uncle after all very good friends with my old man. i just always said the way he deals with the Koonfurians and how he performs as the Foreign Minister will make his future career. So good so far i give credit where its due.

Ximan xaare what peace , last 3 weeks 3 powerful Homicide attacks in a Hotel and to other car bombs just recent
There is a war in hiiraan a war between SNA and ASWJ. Somalia is at its weakest point in history.
Sovereign what Sovereignty Kenya violates U Ethiopia invades you Uganda runs the Show and Nicky calls your MPS corrupt Mother Fuckers what Sovereignty are you talking about. Sovereignty ma waxad u taqana placing your begging bowl yaa alleh wax siiyey sadaqo :lol: :lol:

Somalia has been losing the pas 24 years nothing will change
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Khalid,

Lol there is no ASWJ in Hiiraan, you mean Galgaduud? That is being resolved, the defence minister is already there to solve it. Somalia has changed to the better. Things are getting better in South-Central and Puntland. Economic boom, more diasporians re-locating. Also the terrorist group Al-Shabaab have lost 80% land and are about to become extinct. Things are turning good in Somalia, and the future looks bright for us. So in any case, Wanlaweyn will forever have the upper hand.

Whereas Somaliland will remain a disputed zone, no foreign investment, no global alliances. They will just remain a isolated region. The situation in Somaliland will remain the same, habar on habar conflicts, a corrupt government that exploits financial AID from Arab countries, high youth unemployment, more youngsters going to Malta and Italy for tahriib, more eydoors migrating to Xamar for scholarship or money. Go listen to Faysal Waraabe he knows the reality of Somaliland.

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Khalid Ali wrote:We were expecting this one way or the other but let me Brief you since i have been following the very first day Somaliland entered talks with the Mogadishu government of Sh sharif. The Somalia and Somaliland conflict is the strongest in the region and the biggest issue every Somali in the Horn has an opinion its a sensitive subject for Majority Somalilanders and Koonfurians the complex relationship between the 2. The Somalia and Somaliland conflict is sensational especially for the Somali Media. Now lets put things into perspective in 2012 the British Government held a conference in that conference Somalia and Somaliland were called upon to hold talks in order to clarify their future relations.So the First Talks were held in London than in Dubai between sharif Ahmed and President Siilaanyo. Followed by Ankara 1 , Istanbul 1 istanbul 2 istanbul 3. Djibouti 1 , Istanbul 4 the last one In total times the have met 9 TImes and have agreed one Point the Airspace agreement which the Somalia government failed to Implement. The talks are so difficult because Somalia stands that Somalia and Somaliland are one country and that 2 sides should remain United the former Somali republic. Somalia and Somaliland United in 1960 to form the Somali republic not Somalia, and Somaliland stands that Somaliland statehood is sacrosanct. The Blue flag represent not just Somalia and Somaliland But Jabuuti and Kenya NFD and Ethiopias Kilil Somali. But for many Somalis those countries are gone but for Somalilanders the Somaliland state is very important and its independence. The 2 sides could not agree on anything in the Last talks in Djibouti they agreed to talk about the disputed contention but before they could the Somalia side sabotaged the talks and it was staged.

There are 2 different strategies adopted by Mogadishu and Hargeysa, Mogadishu their interest is to prolong these talks thats the strategy thats why it took 2 and a half years to address the Elephant in the Room. For Somaliland its lets get to Business and address what is at stake. Somaliland strategy was to broaden these talks into international talks , the Koonfurians wanted prolong the talks or were stalling there were to many administrations and prime minister. Remember back in 2013 when the SFG was trying to appease Somaliland especially HSM and i said never trust Walanweyns for he has a plan. He first wanted to re unite Somaliland with Somalia and than try to score big and than use that to be re elected , i mean what Southern leader will be the greatest the one that makes peace with Somaliland, and solves the Somalia and Somaliand conflict.

But Somalia never wanted to talk about the disputed issue between the 2 countries. Somaliland also had a plan for these talks to fail, Somaliland was never happy how slow these talks were going , the Somaliland government knew Somalia was sending dirty woqoyis to Istanbul. But they flew to Istanbul any way just so that the talks collapsed. Somaliland gained 2 points from these talks the Air space agreement and that Somalia admitted that they committed atrocities against the people of Somaliland for the future talks this is very important. In the last talks they agreed that Djibouti can play a mediating role the SL side wanted more countries to Join as Mediators in Europe and Africa.

But Somalia refused and only wanted Djibouti. Somalia is avoiding arbitrators, because it knows than it will lose. Minister Maxmmad Biixi Yoonis pointed that out once in a video. I will find the video. Now SL has 9 Communiques Somalia and Somaliland talked and not one has been implemented all on the side of Somalia it can show this to the countries that have organized these talks to begin with UK and Sweden Norway France. Somaliland has hard evidence and it can now show that the Somalia and Somaliland talks cant continue with Mediators. We thank the Turkish government for the Facilitating role they have played. The Koonfurians wanted their plan was to let one mediating country join the talks every time we meet and it would reach a solution in 7 years times. But they also felt that the talks would have failed now if the elephant in the room wasn't addressed, So what did they do they brought Dirty woqoyis into the shir they knew that SL will never sit with them SL will not sit with the Dirty woqoyis those who sought refuge in Mogadishu qaxootis. And the talks would have collapsed that was the aim.

Xamar has chosen Djibouti to be Mediator as an IGAD country Somaliland chooses Kenya.

The 2 delegations will go home Tomorrow

Well done Halyey Maxammad Biixi Yoonis Somaliland can be proud of you

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What wil a so called general do what power does he have,, in galguuduud the Hiiraan conflict between dir and xawaadle is far from being solved.
Suldan Faisal is raising awareness but he him self knows Somalia is gone he was the one that coined the term Somalia wa meyd la dabo wado Somaliland.

Puntland and galguudud awaits the biggest dispute when central region is being build

Somaliland is building its own roads
It has the best functioning government in the region
Democracy one man one vote for more than 12 years
I know you envy us :D

Horta how are the Marexaaan i heard they were sidelined again by the Majeerteen Ximan xaare all that Niiko for the Amisom brigade in Mogadishu didn't pay off i see thats very sad.

Alshabaab might have lost land but they are more deadlier in their attacks they went underground the recent killings of mps and politicians and hotels should tell you.
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Inan yar oo aan gaban ayey noo soo direen ayaa ka yeertay.

Somaliland oo horay uga baratay naas nuujin dowlada Somalia iyo tii TFG Sugeysay na in loo yeelo sida ay rabto kadib markii ay dalbatay in xubno laga saro wafdiga Soomaaliya , ayaa waxaa si cad oo aan geed loogu gaban ugu sheegay wasiirka arrimaha gudaha in ay Somalia ka go'an tahay in aan hal taako laga goyn, Marnabana aqlbaleyn wafdigan in loo yeeriyo Cida Somalia metesha,dhamaatayna naas nuujintii ay horey uga barteen Dowlada Somalia, una sheegay in Soomaaliya kaliya tahay cida talada ka go do, wixii way wanaag ku waayaana xumaan aysan ku heli doonin.

Waftigoodii wali way ka dhaadhici la dahay in looga tagay meesha ayagoo sugayey naasnuujintii hiore.
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Khalid,

Majerteen are wanlaweyn, your infamous isku-dir tactics ain't working. Somalia is rising, and the triangle enclave will remain more and more isolated. Somalia will forever have the upper-hands, whether we in turmoil or not.
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Miskin Ximan xaare Majeerteen have outmaneuvered your small clan and placed themselves in the seat today you have not a clan state even the digil and xurufle have a clan state.Walanweyn madax bay leeyihin wa Abgaal kuxigeenkuna wa Majeerteen gudoomiya barlamaan wa digil and xurufle . Adigu meel isku sheeg in the Political spectrum of Walanweynism.

Libaax yare the talks were destine to fail there was no naas nuujin for 8 times the talks did not include Somalilanders on the side of Somalia. Why suddenly now. Did you expect really that Somaliland was going to talk about 5 Somaliland guys and one Hawiye guy who were on your payroll.
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Khalid Ali wrote:Miskin Ximan xaare Majeerteen have outmaneuvered your small clan and placed themselves in the seat today you have not a clan state even the digil and xurufle have a clan state.Walanweyn madax bay leeyihin wa Abgaal kuxigeenkuna wa Majeerteen gudoomiya barlamaan wa digil and xurufle . Adigu meel isku sheeg in the Political spectrum of Walanweynism.

Libaax yare the talks were destine to fail there was no naas nuujin for 8 times the talks did not include Somalilanders on the side of Somalia. Why suddenly now. Did you expect really that Somaliland was going to talk about 5 Somaliland guys and one Hawiye guy who were on your payroll.
Majerteen are welcome to outmanoeuvre us. It will not the change the reality of Somaliland though. :pac:
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XimanJaale wrote:
Khalid Ali wrote:Miskin Ximan xaare Majeerteen have outmaneuvered your small clan and placed themselves in the seat today you have not a clan state even the digil and xurufle have a clan state.Walanweyn madax bay leeyihin wa Abgaal kuxigeenkuna wa Majeerteen gudoomiya barlamaan wa digil and xurufle . Adigu meel isku sheeg in the Political spectrum of Walanweynism.

Libaax yare the talks were destine to fail there was no naas nuujin for 8 times the talks did not include Somalilanders on the side of Somalia. Why suddenly now. Did you expect really that Somaliland was going to talk about 5 Somaliland guys and one Hawiye guy who were on your payroll.
Majerteen are welcome to outmanoeuvre us. It will not the change the reality of Somaliland though. :pac:
Ximan xaare such Pussiyo u do know Majeerteen will not change the situation in Gedo and Cabuudwaaq loool Haye mar haday majeerteen ka masuul yihin igu yeedh lady naas aan naasaha aan ka laado ileeen you are irrelevant wadigi yidhi wala i out manaverourgereye maxa ku dhigay meesha lol Kuwi naasasha dhadheera igu Yeedh :D
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