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Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:40 pm
by SultanOrder
http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2015/Mar/wa ... -90649.htm
So they want IGAD to mediate, and have spoken with the Ethiopians about this issue.
So this is their plan to push ahead with the talks, raise it to the next level.
http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2015/Mar/wa ... -90656.htm
FSG response, nigga, this is an internal matter that concerns the sovereignty of Somalia, not a talk between two countries that requires mediation.
What has gotten into the FSG to be more forthright and vocal about their stance?

Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:42 pm
by Libix
lool jac iga dheh!
Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:10 pm
by SultanOrder
Libix wrote:lool jac iga dheh!
SL waxay la yimaadeen tribal politics, kulaha reer hebel ama reer hebel lama hadleeno. The world is like

but they represent the FSG.
Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:21 pm
by Libix
Perfect_Order wrote:Libix wrote:lool jac iga dheh!
SL waxay la yimaadeen tribal politics, kulaha reer hebel ama reer hebel lama hadleeno. The world is like

but they represent the FSG.

udhaaf cida riyada hawataane

Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:53 pm
by Methylamine
Al-Shabaab was an internal problem (until a few years ago), but y'all still brought in the Ethiopians and the Ugandans

Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:59 pm
by SultanOrder
Ethiopia and Uganda only came in when Alshabab became an international problem, claiming they will go to Alaska.
And don't forget the moral of the story, it was to strengthen the FSG, I don't think you want other countries coming in to strengthen the FSG against SL.

Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:11 pm
by Methylamine
So long as the FSG continues to show unreasonble behaviour and continue to claim places that don't belong to them (ie Somaliland), then I highly doubt the involvement other countries will tip the scales in favour of the Zoomalia government.
PS: having foreign troops running the show made the FSG weaker than it was before

Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:24 pm
by SultanOrder
Methylamine wrote:So long as the FSG continues to show unreasonble behaviour and continue to claim places that don't belong to them (ie Somaliland), then I highly doubt the involvement other countries will be a positive factor for the Zoomalia government.
PS: having foreign troops running the show made the FSG weaker than it was before

SL is the one that showed unreasonable behavior by trying to dictate to the FSG who they should have that should represent them. And besides every country recognized the territorial integrity and sovereignty of the Somali Republic.
ps. they have made the FSG stronger because before foreign troops they were based in Nairobi.

Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:32 pm
by KingWaslawi
F@cking Hypocrites, Intaad Somaliland oo kiis gooniya ah ka hadlaysid, Koonfurta isku dawlad ah ayay IGAD dhex-dhexaadisaa.
Miyaan Jubbaland iyo weak SFG government dhex-dhexaadin Itoobiya oo heshiis halkaa lagu saxeexin Addis Ababa.
Xaggaad ku ilowday Kampala Accord iyo heshiiskii la dhex dhigay madaxdii TFG u sarrayay wakhitigaa
Miyaan kuu tiriyaa dee, halkan kuma soo koobi karee.
Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:39 pm
by Methylamine
Perfect_Order wrote:Methylamine wrote:So long as the FSG continues to show unreasonble behaviour and continue to claim places that don't belong to them (ie Somaliland), then I highly doubt the involvement other countries will be a positive factor for the Zoomalia government.
PS: having foreign troops running the show made the FSG weaker than it was before

SL is the one that showed unreasonable behavior by trying to dictate to the FSG who they should have that should represent them. And besides every country recognized the territorial integrity and sovereignty of the Somali Republic.
ps. they have made the FSG stronger because before foreign troops they were based in Nairobi.

FSG is the one trying their best to bring SL into the fold of one nation, why not abide by SL terms? The IC might believe that SL is part of the Somali Republic, but I'm pretty sure that they know that the FSG has zero legitimacy in Somaliland.
The government might have been in Nairobi before, but having Kenya now annex parts of Jubbaland, and being controlled by Gabre doesn't make FSG any stronger than it was before
Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:44 pm
by Lancer
lol I totally forgot about that, So who was mediating the Jubba Agreement?Wasn't it chaired by IGAD in Addis Abbaba? Now they want to tell us there will be no foreigners involved.
F@cking hypocrites.
At the end of the day IGAD and Viceroy Nicholas Kay dictate to Somalia as we saw today when he said there will be no extension for Hassan Sheikh.
I can see them getting invovled in the near future.
The foreign minister maxamad biixi made a smart move.

Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:47 pm
by SultanOrder
KingWaslawi, Jubbaland wasn't claiming to be a separate nation, but how the sides would work within federalism. SL want's FSG to negotiate on Somalia's territorial integrity, on what IS Somalia. FSG is not interested in such a discussion, and never has been.
Meth, in actuality look at how close FSG and Jubbaland is now, compared to before. And talks of annexation is just stupid, no one is annexing anyone.
Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:16 pm
by original dervish
S/l will continue to be isolated.....increasing their dependence on Ethiopia, whom ironically, will never support an independent s/l.
The FSG only has to sit tight.....they have all the time in the world....the goodies will keep on flowing to Xamar.
Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:29 pm
by Niya
Isaaq wants talks with Hawiye and maybe Digil and Mirifle.
Re: Bixi "no talks without mediation"
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:41 pm
by Methylamine
Perfect_Order wrote:Meth, in actuality look at how close FSG and Jubbaland is now, compared to before. And talks of annexation is just stupid, no one is annexing anyone.
And look at how close FSG and Puntland are now
I brought up annexation because there was a Kenyan article somebody posted that mentioned Ras Kamboni as theirs. I'll find it when I get home