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Somali Potential Is Dangerous (Quotes about Somalis from Colonial Era)

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"A Somali always felt himself to be twice as good as any white man, or any other kind of man at all, and still does, even when he is wrong. Islam does wonders for the self respect of non-white people and Christianity is right to worry about the spread of Islam in Africa, and must honestly face the question of why it has happened - "


"Of all the desiccated, bitter, cruel, sunbeaten wildernesses which starve and thirst beyond the edges of Africa's luscious, jungled centre, there cannot be one more Christless than the one which begins at the northern foot of Mount Kenya and stretches to the foothills of Abyssinia, and from there to the dried-out glittering tip of Cape Gardafui where the hot karif winds blow in from where the long sharks race under the thin blue skin of the ocean. You can never think of those wildernesses without thinking of daggers and spears, rolling fierce eyes under mops of dusty black crinkly hair, of mad stubborn camels, rocks too hot to touch, and blood feuds whose origins cannot be remembered, only honoured in the stabbing. But of all the races of Africa there cannot be one better to live among than the most difficult, the proudest, the bravest, the vainest, the most merciless, the friendliest; the Somalis."



"I never saw a Somali who showed any fear of death, which, impressive though it sounds, carries within it the chill of pitilessness and ferocity as well. If you have no fear of death you have none for anybody else's either, but that fearlessness has always been essential to the Somalis who have had to try and survive hunger, disease and thirst while prepared to fight and die against their enemies, their fellow Somalis for pleasure in the blood feud, or the Ethiopians who would like to rule them, or the white men who got in the way for a while."

"Everytime a Somali got whipped, an Italian soldier was killed"

"Wandering in The Shag (desert) were Somalis with some of the sharpest intelligences in the continent, nomads who had been forced into being parasites of the camel, for centuries, and could anyone ever find a way of using all that courage and intelligence?"

"There is no one alive as tough as the Somali nomad. No one.
An askari wounded in a fight in the Haud country walked 14 miles holding his guts in his hand, was sewn up and lived to soldier again. And the women are as spiritually strong as their men."

"....You get into that way of thinking in the Somali waste. You think that way because the Somalis bitterly resent the white man, and struggle continually, and admirably, by lies and intrigue, to fight off his influence which spells the end of their peculiar world. You cannot beat them. They have no inferiority complexes, no wide-eyed worship of the white man's ways, and no fear of him, of his guns or of his official anger. They are a race to be admired, if hard to love."


"The British colonials always sympathized with the Somalis, as they were free and could do whatever they want, some British were Somaliphiles while a Somali wouldn't hesitate in killing a British person. Somalis deeply hated the White man and all Ajnabis (Non-Somalis)".

"The Somalis and their cousins in Ethiopia were cunning, treacherous, and deceitful, none could be trusted lest he may entrap you and kill you"

"The Somalis killed many Europeans living in Somalia, they even forced them to pay taxes while they did nothing. Their hero The 'Sayyid Ina Abdilaahi Xassan' has killed hundreds of Europeans including Col. Richard Corfield who was a Somaliphile and recognized the Somali fight for freedom. Before Mohammed another man named Imam Ahmed (the Lefthanded) who is also a hero in Somali tradition fought the Portugese who were looking for Prestor John when they stumbled upon the Islamic conquest of the Ethiopian Christian kingdom. Their leader was Cristovao da Gama son of famed explorer Vasco da Gama. Ahmed killed him in battle and beheaded him and discarded his body in a nearby spring. Before da Gama was killed he was captured, tortured and forced to convert to Islam; once he refused he was killed".

"The Somalis in the neighborhood are treacherous, proud, and turbulent, and the Governor and his guard are really prisoners in on the forts which they built"-Italian Somalia


"If the British didn't come in Kenya the Somalis and their cousins the Borana warlike nomadic people from the north would've wiped the Kikuyu (Bantu natives of Kenya), who were in fear of these marauding nomads".

"If a Somali offers himself to a foreigner whether Black or White abroad and says he/she wants to marry him, he/she does not out of love but to gain citizenship and bring his/her family and throw that person in the garbage."

"All the Africans in Africa except for North Africans and other Horn of Africans of whom they are cousins consider the Somalis an undesirable bunch and a deceitful people. Most African nations except for the Arab nations and the North Africans have refused to accept them. Those who did, like Kenya, South Africa, and Uganda the economy is now in their hands."
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"If a Somali gets in trouble in Kenya or any of these African nations that took Somalis in, all a Somali has to do is bribe him with a few dollars and nothing happens".

"A Somali can be extremly cruel and murderous towards other Somalis if they have no other enemies around, but as soon as an enemy attacks them they all form a union and forget their problems because now they have a common enemy".

"The Ethiopians of whom are called "Highland People" and the Somalis of whom are called "Lowland People" have been enemies since the Somalis rebelled and separated from them. Both have a desire to rule each other, but history has showed European meddling to stop this".

"In Somali oral history the Hyena is a representation of cowardice and especially a representation of non-Somali peoples who are enemies towards them, while the fox who is a representation of cunning, intelligence, and deceit is important because its a representation of the Somali people".

"The Somalis boast that over 100 nations came to their land to conquer but yet never did this includes: Britons, Germans, Italians, French, Ethiopians, Greeks, Arabs, Persians, and so on. And they were all defeated especially the well armed White Man".

"A Somali was never taken to jail lest he may die in there, the Europeans would spare of him of it because of the many arguments of the Somali people, that prisons were only for slaves and foreigners".

"It always seemed that the Somali along with his camel seemed to view the White stranger in the homeland with equal contempt".

"White men and women couldn't have children in British Somaliland if they wanted to they had to bear their children elsewhere, this was a law of the Somali elders. If White children were to be born in any Somali lands the child would be killed or taken away and be raised as a Muslim."


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Jamal Addow these accounts were about the mainstream Somali irrespective of clan. This is first time foreigners met a group of people like this. Remember, other groups tended to be servile. While the Somali was always on top no matter what. And were dubious and unpredictable to foreigners. Somalis if united ideological for a cause are a formidable threat. I'm certain Somalis would have stretched well past Kenya and Ethiopia if it wasn't for British meddling.
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And what good did these savage traits do for Somalis in the long term? all nomads are savages from the Mongolians to Central Asian Turkic and they have all been conquered and assimilated by more powerful neighbors whom were sedentary and established states. We were lucky in having retarded neighbors and having a legendary general in Ahmed Gurey whom saved our backs (but even he struggled and had great difficulty in convincing the pastoralists to join the fight). Because of this lifestyle Somalis in the 21st century are suffering and its down to the social division and living choice chosen by the Somalis back then. To our North, West and East their were advanced civilization whom had experienced thousands of years of statehood we could have emulated them and chosen a sedentary lifestyle building states by the rivers and across the coast marshaling in economic and cultural property, Somalia would have been in a much better position today (by the way this not mean that some Somalis did not choose this path). Today Somalis are only developing statehood consciousness and experience which we should have developed hundreds of years ago.
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I can't even describe the standard personality of the somali people. Indeed they are associated all the above things but there is many other things holding them back. one thing is for sure Somalis are ver very divided people, and they were never United in large scale before Europeans.
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Estarix wrote:And what good did these savage traits do for Somalis in the long term? all nomads are savages from the Mongolians to Central Asian Turkic and they have all been conquered and assimilated by more powerful neighbors whom were sedentary and established states. We were lucky in having retarded neighbors and having a legendary general in Ahmed Gurey whom saved our backs (but even he struggled and had great difficulty in convincing the pastoralists to join the fight). Because of this lifestyle Somalis in the 21st century are suffering and its down to the social division and living choice chosen by the Somalis back then. To our North, West and East their were advanced civilization whom had experienced thousands of years of statehood we could have emulated them and chosen a sedentary lifestyle building states by the rivers and across the coast marshaling in economic and cultural property, Somalia would have been in a much better position today (by the way this not mean that some Somalis did not choose this path). Today Somalis are only developing statehood consciousness and experience which we should have developed hundreds of years ago.
True, our strength is our weakness.

OP needs to remember this fearlessness was used to steal reer hebel hebel's livestock and territory.
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Estariz, you do have a point there. Of all the talk of quintessential Somali pride, fierce independence and arrogance, it's ironic that these very traits, engendered by our harsh and austere environment and nomadic lifstyle, have become our achilles heel. Even more counterintuitive is that, for many a Somali, such pride has led to deep-seated inferiority complexes and self-hatred after witnessing the powerfully destructive and utterly humiliating capabilities of this much lauded pride when misdirected toward intra-somali conflicts, as is the case more than not.
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Yeah, the potential to kill and destroy.They were basically saying we are the most defiant savage of all.
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This is the equivalent of a good team beating a bad team and saying "Good effort guys, you actually gave us a fight. Here's a pat on the back".

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SolidCamel wrote:This is the equivalent of a good team beating a bad team and saying "Good effort guys, you actually gave us a fight. Here's a pat on the back".

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Recognition of ones indomitable spirit from a hegemoinc power should not be brushed aside as mere paternalistic pity, but should help reinforce what we already know about ourselves. These 'pats on the back' from colonial sources shouldn't make us giddy at receiving cadaan attention and compliments, but should make us smile because Somalis of the past really were the thorn in the saan-cadaanle's neck that we thought them to be.
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I don't see Somalis being servile. Their only problem was not being galvanized. Had that been the case, Europeans would be denied access to the Horn, in the first place. Somalis are naive, it's possible to use their petty differences against them. Also, most of you people making such incinderary remarks about other clans like to slant history in your favour. It's very sad
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Thanks admins :up: , keep this thread clean of tribal feuds.
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sophisticate wrote:I don't see Somalis being servile. Their only problem was not being galvanized. Had that been the case, Europeans would be denied access to the Horn, in the first place. Somalis are naive, it's possible to use their petty differences against them. Also, most of you people making such incinderary remarks about other clans like to slant history in your favour. It's very sad
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sophisticate wrote:I don't see Somalis being servile. Their only problem was not being galvanized. Had that been the case, Europeans would be denied access to the Horn, in the first place. Somalis are naive, it's possible to use their petty differences against them. Also, most of you people making such incinderary remarks about other clans like to slant history in your favour. It's very sad
Exactly, and knowing this is what's so depressing about it all. If only there was a way to harness the Somali spirit and galvanize it toward a common goal outside of consuming itself.
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sophisticate wrote:Jamal Addow these accounts were about the mainstream Somali irrespective of clan. This is first time foreigners met a group of people like this. Remember, other groups tended to be servile. While the Somali was always on top no matter what. And were dubious and unpredictable to foreigners. Somalis if united ideological for a cause are a formidable threat. I'm certain Somalis would have stretched well past Kenya and Ethiopia if it wasn't for British meddling.
And THIS is why I'm against Somalis marrying into other races. I want this Somalinimo to be preserved.

I want our culture, language, facial features.... to be preserved for as long as possible.

The Somalis are a unique people. And we are few in number. We need to recognize our uniqueness and preserve it by any means necessary. Somalia belongs to the Somali people and should stay free from any foreign influence.
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TheMailMan wrote:
sophisticate wrote:Jamal Addow these accounts were about the mainstream Somali irrespective of clan. This is first time foreigners met a group of people like this. Remember, other groups tended to be servile. While the Somali was always on top no matter what. And were dubious and unpredictable to foreigners. Somalis if united ideological for a cause are a formidable threat. I'm certain Somalis would have stretched well past Kenya and Ethiopia if it wasn't for British meddling.
And THIS is why I'm against Somalis marrying into other races. I want this Somalinimo to be preserved.

I want our culture, language, facial features.... to be preserved for as long as possible.

The Somalis are a unique people. And we are few in number. We need to recognize our uniqueness and preserve it by any means necessary. Somalia belongs to the Somali people and should stay free from any foreign influence.
Miscegenation is an abomination. :D
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