why kenya is an easy target for shabab and not ethiopia?i

[sahal80]

because al shabab was created by ethiopia and their policies accomplish eachother

al shabaab itself contributes to ethiopias security just like the somali enclaves by expelling onlf and olf from their southren camps wich thevy had under the islamic courts

ethiopia has one and only one policy for the whole somalia and it based on the ethiopian security

ethiopia doesnt support certain clans or has no relations with some clans rather with every subclan and group from waqooyi to koonfur!

there r many examples we dont need to mention them now for the sake of the topic

on the contrary, kenya has relations with one clan, so the other clans have become a fuel for al shabab!

here kenya needs to change its strategy for somalia

ethiopia has an imperial regime and one party-state

on the contrary, kenya has some clan-based democrasy and ethnic political life, so its an opportunity for al shsbssb to try change the regime and cause some ethnic division in kenya

like his predecessor, the current president belongs to the bantu clan of kikuya while the opposition leader belongs to the nilotic clan of luo

kikuya r the biggest clan in kenya at 22 percent followed by the luhya clan, the third is luo who r politically the second in the country

kikuya cannot secure victory without getting allied with some smaller tribes like the kaleenjiin tribe who have benefited economically from this coalition

luo r allied with luhya and some other smaller clans but still need to attract some of the kalenjeen votes

as things r now, kenyata has the political balance to get a second term in 2017 but the insecurity may change the game bc it will effect the kenyan economy wich is one of his main revenues is the tourism so its not about only securing the citizens

the opposition coalition r calling him to withdraw from somalia and r using this ticket to reach the power

the westren countries specially the uk r not cooperating with him that much due to his closeness with china and r making kenya to sound an insecure place!

all this may help the opposition

its unlikely that kikuya will lose the power though kenya has now an effective constitution and another civil war is unlike to happen but kenya maybe is heading towards ethnic and religious division

maybe kenyata will change his strategies before his first term comes to end

kenya has more corruption than ethiopia and a weaker intelligence and security

unlike of ethiopia, kenya is not a police state and its ethnic based counties have their own cabinet and police

lastly al shabaab is trying to represent the east africa jihad and they have some funders from there to purchase this card when it comes to international jihad, that why you dont hear local kenyan jihadists except the name of al shabaab.

[ChiefKimbo]

Ethiopia will get touched sooner or later, have you seen the human abuse in oromo/ogaden regions?

[MarsinQorahay]

So sahal, your saying that al shabaab should invade jigjiga university and kill innocent somali youths?

[Based]

inb4 the lover of all things Ethiopian Khalid/Emperior/Xaaji Xunjuf

[Based]

dp

[ChiefKimbo]

People have this concept, idea, notion that since prophet Mohammed blessed Abyssinia Ethiopia (despite Ethiopia continues abuse on muslim ogadens and oromo) People have this belief that God will protect Ethiopia forever.


Nonsense, Ethiopia will get touched sooner or later. She will experience the biggest slap since the days of Benito Mussolini and Ahmed Gurey. I give you my word.

How can Ethiopia receive millions of millions foreign aid and still be the second poorest country? and we all know who is affected by this, the Ogadens and oromos.

[ChiefKimbo]

It's the Oromos that's going to bring the revolution to Ethiopia. I give you my word.

[SahanGalbeed]

I feel sad for Kenya wallahi . This is simply not how to do it , whatever it is you're trying to do .

One land for all the somalis is a dream but this right here is of the most abhorrent nightmare , may Allah appease the suffering of these poor innocent people.

[ChiefKimbo]

One land for all the somalis is a dream but this rigyt hare is of the most abhorrent nightmare

Only a qaldaan would say that.

[LobsterUnit]

So sahal, your saying that al shabaab should invade jigjiga university and kill innocent somali youths?

No.he is saying, in a nutshell, ethiopia has relationships with all clans, kenyanskuna darood(og) un bay relationship la leeyihiin, causing other clans to support shabab.yacni, kenya reeraha kale relationship ha la samayso.war dadkani "this nonsense is supposed to be political analysis" waa imtixaan.

[Estarix]

Typical Somali blaming everyone but them self. I do not see Alshabab as this barbaric, mindless group of people whose only purpose is to defecate on the people, in fact i see them as a civilizing force whom have a record of uniting communities, guaranteeing security and assisting development at a moderate level, sure Somalia wasnt the beacon of East Africa but compared to what there was before it's relatively good in comparison. Lets not forget Alshabab was a response against the anarchy and insecurity that prevailed in the South - somali selflessness and wickedness gave birth to Alshabab otherwise they would never have come.

The monster alshabab has been forced to become was forced upon them by foreigners and their collaborating Somali foreigners. If Kenya doesnt want to get the heat; get the hell out of not just Somalia but also the NFD.

[MarsinQorahay]

So sahal, your saying that al shabaab should invade jigjiga university and kill innocent somali youths?

No.he is saying, in a nutshell, ethiopia has relationships with all clans, kenyanskuna darood(og) un bay relationship la leeyihiin, causing other clans to support shabab.yacni, kenya reeraha kale relationship ha la samayso.war dadkani "this nonsense is supposed to be political analysis" waa imtixaan.

That actually did answer the question saying that he supports an shabaab invade in an ogaden populated place.

[xiimaaya]

Ethiopia hosts 4th hollyiest masjid and city in islam Harare . Alshabab are aware of that. They are not fighting Ethiopians for religious reasons.

[gegiroor]

Kenyans are being attacked because it accommodates Somalis far better than Ethiopia. Al-Shaydaan also attacks Kenya because Kismayu and Jubba regions in general were the bread basket for Al-Shaydaan. Therefore when Jubbaland were established, Al-Shaydaan lost a major revenue. Al-Shaydaan are desperate and their attack on Kenya is out of desperation.

With that being said, the idea that Kenya is supporting one particular clan is the most ludicrous statement that anyone can make. Like it or not, Kenya is part of AMISOM, and no specific rules apply to it.

[sahal80]

Kenyans are being attacked because it accommodates Somalis far better than Ethiopia. Al-Shaydaan also attacks Kenya because Kismayu and Jubba regions in general were the bread basket for Al-Shaydaan. Therefore when Jubbaland were established, Al-Shaydaan lost a major revenue. Al-Shaydaan are desperate and their attack on Kenya is out of desperation.

With that being said, the idea that Kenya is supporting one particular clan is the most ludicrous statement that anyone can make. Like it or not, Kenya is part of AMISOM, and no specific rules apply to it.

I agree with your analysis...what I mean by particular clan is that many r against kenya for non religion or amisom reasons and often the US govt advises kenya on this

Al shabaab itself has commanders from certain clans and certain clans are not allowed to be top commanders bc it will be easy for them to defect to their clans who have an independent admins instead of the govt and CIA


Baasto

Wtf r you talking about? No one is calling here to have relations with kenya or braging about having relations with ethiopia

Simply I'm analysing the two countries situations

Take for example suldan wabar who has a base inside ethiopia

Ethiopia uses every subclan for her security

I heard that they have somali studies in adis university

Seems like they r copying israel who teaches arabic in all the schools and arabic is the second official language of the country

I think we too need to teach amharic in our universities so we can infiltrate them.