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Long Walk to Statehood: Why Somaliland Deserves International Recognition

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A nice article to read :up: :sland:

By Christopher Clapham

The self-proclaimed but as-yet unrecognized Republic of Somaliland derives from the former British Somaliland Protectorate, occupying the northern part of the Somali-inhabited area of northeast Africa and the southern shore of the Gulf of Aden. Following the normal process of decolonization, it became independent on June 26, 1960, but—just five days later—agreed to join the former Italian Somalia immediately to the south. The resulting Somali Republic was intended by Somali nationalists to incorporate the other Somali-inhabited regions of the Horn of Africa—the Ogaden region of Ethiopia, the Northern Frontier District of Kenya, and the French Somali Coast (now Djibouti). This ambition, however, was never achieved. Instead, after the breakdown of the military dictatorship of Mohamed Siyad Barre in 1991, government in the formerly Italian part of the state collapsed entirely, while the formerly British part reclaimed its independence on May 18 of that year.

Since then, Somaliland has remained self-governing, promulgated a constitution, held a number of reasonably fair and contested elections, and maintained peaceful rule over the greater part of its territory. This has been in dramatic contrast to the collapse and only very partial restoration of government in the area to the south. It is, however, extremely poor, and in need of development that can only come from integration into the regional and global economies. Meanwhile, its domestic political settlement is threatened by instability both in southern Somalia and in Yemen. Recognition would likely have a positive impact on both of these problems.

Somaliland has a strong legal claim to full international recognition. In addition to the historical claim deriving from its formerly sovereign status and its capacity to govern effectively in an extremely fragile region, it fulfils the Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States’ requirements for statehood: a permanent population, a defined territory, and a government with the capacity to defend and represent itself. Additionally, it held a referendum in 2001 in which some 97 percent of voters supported independence. On the ground, it is a state that palpably exists, and any scheme for reattaching it to Mogadishu is fanciful. Moreover, there are obvious regional precedents set by the separation both of Eritrea from Ethiopia and of South Sudan from Sudan. The fact that the issue remains unresolved after nearly 24 years is due, at a formal level, to a failure to meet the criterion set by the African Union (AU), which states that the government of the “parent” state must agree to the split. But for much of this time, Somalia has had no government, and none of the extremely fragile regimes claiming to govern in Mogadishu have had any interest in acknowledging a right to secede that would undermine their own complex clan alliances.

Equally important in practice, Somaliland has been unable to find any powerful allies prepared to sponsor its independence through an act of recognition that would confront the international system with a fait accompli. The regional hegemon, Ethiopia, is sympathetic, but is inhibited both by its complex historical relationship with the Somali peoples and by its position as the headquarter state of the AU, which makes it particularly reluctant to disturb the continental consensus. Extra-continental states remain formally committed to the hopeless task of trying to ‘restore’ the state that was shattered back in 1991. The international system has put an enormous effort into the attempt to rebuild the Somali state governed in Mogadishu, and has been reluctant to alienate factions in southern Somalia opposed to Somaliland secession. Other major powers have broader interests in accepting the AU position; none have specific interests in Somaliland sufficient to induce them to break this consensus.

Yet the costs of non-recognition are now becoming acute. Somaliland remains a deeply undeveloped society and, although it receives some official aid, it has almost entirely missed out on the dramatic developments taking place in much of the rest of Africa. The private sector investment the country badly needs is inhibited in part by its problem of recognition: external investors cannot gain the legal status needed to protect their investment so long as they are operating within a global legal void. The transport corridor from the excellent port at Berbera, which would help to relieve Ethiopia’s heavy dependence on Djibouti, suffers from appalling communications links on the Somaliland side, in contrast to the modern highway that starts at the Ethiopian frontier. Ethiopia has one of the most rapidly developing economies in Africa—constrained though it is by its landlocked position and inability to use the Eritrean Red Sea ports—and development in Somaliland would necessarily involve closer links with Ethiopia, to the benefit of both countries. Furthermore, the Somaliland government itself is short on administrative competence, and would benefit enormously from capacity-building assistance of the kind that is readily available to other African states.

The international system as a whole has much to gain from supporting a stable, peaceful and democratic state within a region severely threatened by violent Islamism, both by al-Shabaab in Somalia itself and by developments just across the Gulf of Aden. Somaliland has its own effective and informal means of containing Islamist violence, rooted in its close linkages with indigenous conflict-resolution mechanisms. This approach would be far more conductive to long-term stability than any further heavy-handed external engagement in the region. Recognition of this strangely successful little state offers a low-cost means of promoting development and regional integration in a historically unstable part of the world—one which continues to be of vital concern both to the global economy and to the management of current international political tensions.

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International community should support the rebuilding of state institutions in the Somali Republic, should limit the political interference of neighboring states, and should not interfere in the internal affairs of Somalia by breaking way certain Somali regions. The independence of certain Somali regions is up to Somalia's federal government, Somalia's federal parliament, and the people of Somalia accepting or having a say the break-up of their country. If certain regions of the Somali Republic break away, many others will break away as well, and you will many states needing a foreign aid and lack of enough resources to survive on. No one should open the Pandora's box.

Again the solution is to support the quest for durable peace in whole of the Somali Republic, support the building of state institutions, support the fight against extremism, and limit the interference of neighboring states who are fully involved in the internal affairs of the Somali Republic.
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Thats Dhulbahante clannish agenda that has no historical or political basis. Simply because your minority sub clan cant live in an Isaaq majority state it doesn't change the basic legal merit of Somaliland state, if tow regions united voluntarily in 1960 the same logic dictates they can go back to their previous status regardless what your minor clans whish.

Its basic logic
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you are perfectly correct in all your arguement but after excluding SL from the " somali region" you mentioned. SL was an independent state even for a short period with a defined international borders ( check any official Somalia map, you will see SL border lines with neighboring countries in SOLID LINE ,i.e, its defined,where as the borders of Somaliya with Ehtiopia are marked as Dotted lines,with title of PROVISIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE LINE).

The Somali federal government was formed in 2012 in london before that no one in the whole world recognised Somalia after the civil war and collapse of afweye's regime, the SFG have a short mandate to reconcile the somalis not to act as fully authorised government on what was called somalia republic ,hence they forced them to sit and negotiate with SL as an equal entity.

as for the pandora box, i have a document from an official fact finding mission from the African Union refuting that SL is a pandora box,since it was an official state with defined international borders inherited from the british .

as for the will of the Somali people,well that is not the case here, as the matter of independence is exclusively restricted to the clans and people within SL borders,and any referendum will solely be conducted inside SL borders only,that was the case in Eritrea,Sounth Sudan and Scotland.
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Gegiroor/Udun,

Riddle me this..

If Somaliland and Somalia were constitutent states of the Somali republic (I'll overlook the absence of a legal union in this case), who made Somalia the sole legitimate representative of the Somali republic? Or Somali people in general?

You oppose Somaliland because it's majority Isaaq (85%). The false narrative that Dhulbahante fought for Somali unity and the unification of Somaliland and Somalia is Kacaan orchestrated propaganda. It was Isaaq with 2/3 of the seats in the National Assembly of Somaliland that voted for a union and today its Isaaq that's reclaiming Somaliland. Your minority clan had no say back then just like they dont have a say in the affairs of Somaliland today (or even the Somalia you pledge allegiance to).

You're protected by Isaaq politicians and they're the ones accepting your nonsense. Nonetheless, These fossils will soon perish and a new generation that's well informed and aware of reality will change the useless policy that's been dominating Somaliland politics this far.
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@kufr named x.Playa - Minorities, huh? These cuqdad-ridden Eydoors are running away from the rest of Somalis because they don't feel they have the numbers to be part of Republic of Somalia .

Again the solution is to support the quest for durable peace in whole of the Somali Republic, support the building of state institutions, support the fight against extremism, and limit the interference of neighboring states who are fully involved in the internal affairs of the Somali Republic. The independence of any Somali region is up to Somalia's federal government, Somalia's federal parliament, and the people of Somalia accepting or having a say the break-up of their country. If certain regions of the Somali Republic break away, many others will break away as well, and you will many states needing a foreign aid and lack of enough resources to survive on. No one should open the Pandora's box.

@Xildiid, Cigaal Naalaye - the smallest DH - Ahmed Garaad subclan - tamed your beesha Ceeb-maddow (aka Solomodow) and here you're talking about your politicians saved us :lol: The men who are crying daily in SNET is you and other punk named Yusuf. Ok got you, you got tamed 8-)
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Doofar Ismaciil,

If Isaaq wanted, they could sell Somaliland for the fake 'Somaliyeey toosoo singing', 'blue flag waving', 'using foreign countries against rival clans', ''unity'' and demand 61 seats + either presidency or PM and the Walaweyns would accept it in a heartbeat despite Faqash opposition. The same maJAREERteen you dickride supported the seperation of Somaliland in 1991 when a section of the SNM and USC were discussing a new union and a new republic with a north/south power sharing. The worst nightmare for your Doofaar Ismaciil clan is that Isaaq returns to the political arena.

Nonetheless, we're not hypocrits. We're the only clan that gave up a state we dominated for the greater good of all Somalis and why should we join the AMISOM project when we could regain our long lost sovereignty and establish our own sovereign state in the Horn of Africa ?

You still haven't answered my question, who made Somalia the sole legitimate representative of the (legally non existant) Somali republic? The notion that other regions will also break away because of Somaliland is ludicrous. Unlike Somaliland, the ''states'' you referring to do not have historical legitimacy.

It was Reer Nabad (Barre Cabdille, a sub clan of Solomadow) vs Cigaal Naaleye, Cali Geri, Barkhad, Samakaab Axmed and Wacays Aadan of the Dhulbahanate. (I didn't even know these Doofaar Ismaciil sub clans existed until CaynabaX whose family is reer Nabad, stated their names). The 5th Qurjiile man was recently killed, outside Horufadhi, for the 3 reer Nabad teenagers as revenge and the ball is in your court. We're still waiting for a war and the day you wage one, you'll lose Buhoodle and your people know this so they're crying for peace but our elders won't respond to their nonsense. As the proverb goes, 'Dhulbahante intuu nabad kugu yeelo, colaad kuguma yeelo'.

Dadka la ciilay ee la rabaayadeeyey throughout history, who suffers from pathologic hatred is your clan. It's your sepreme elder that's threatening to kill HJ (Solomadow) children. You'll never hear a HJ elder or any other Isaaq elder acting like a Doofaar Ismaciil. Adigaba qaxbad ''HJ'' ku dhashay who should've aborted you when you were a fetus. Your inferiority complex and pathologic hatred is so evident that you even coined the term ''Eydoor''.

You're not different from eygan yuusaya.



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Who the hell want to join a s**t hole like Somalia.
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It's a shit - hole. I was thier this time last year. Recongintion? I don't see it happening, not enough intrest from the west. What would they gain from somaliland being recongnized? Nothing really. Anyway's Somali's only have themselves to blame for being a failed state, a country made up of the same one ethnic group of people and religon should not be at war. Ethiopia is not a failed state, but they're a country made up of over 10 ethnic group's of people, and have many differing religous beliefs. Somali's must love thier "Issak's" and " Darood's" look where it's got them :lol:
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axmed89 wrote:It's a shit - hole. I was thier this time last year. Recongintion? I don't see it happening, not enough intrest from the west. What would they gain from somaliland being recongnized? Nothing really. Anyway's Somali's only have themselves to blame for being a failed state, a country made up of the same one ethnic group of people and religon should not be at war. Ethiopia is not a failed state, but they're a country made up of over 10 ethnic group's of people, and have many differing religous beliefs. Somali's must love thier "Issak's" and " Darood's" look where it's got them :lol:
Too late to turn back. Look forward to the future. Independence would come, no matter how long it takes.
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@Xildiid,

First, the union of July 1, 1960 is standing and overwrites any colonial project that preceded before it. No matter how many fake reports your paid gaalo consultants write, it won't change that fact. Somaliland is one of the administrations in the Federal Somali Republic. Any change to the borders of the Somali Republic will require the consent of the entire Somali people, the Somali Federal parliament, and the Somali federal government including a nationwide referendum. That is the reality whether you believe it or not.

Second, Beenaale marqaatigiisuu fogeeyaa. One can watch how your Beesha Ceeb-Madow(aka Solomodoow) a sub-clan of Eydoor were chased from Kalshaale before all SL militia came to your aid in November 2010:

[youtube]watch?v=jHG9utJQ3R4[/youtube]

One can watch from 4:27 and onwards those reer Buuhoodle fighters standing on your water holes in Kalshaale, and your clansmen being chased out of that area. The arrival of all SL militia took place after you took a beating and got evicted.

These 2 links are discussing some of the battles between Reer Buuhoodle and all SL militia after beesha Ceeb-Maddoow get owned:

http://www.dhanbaal.com/main/index.php? ... y&sid=1059


http://ogaalnews.net/?p=5557

Third, your beesha Ceeb-Madow got owned and got many of your boys killed (nb: not that I take comfort the death of either side). That is why you and your elders were crying to Siilaanyo to help you or do something. However, you can deny and make whole kind of fake stories.
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Guys I'm against recognition. At least I'm not for wasting so much resources on it searching. Allah recognizes you fcuk the cadaan and his stamp. Ain't important. Themselves at one point in their statehood formation no body recognized them including amongst themselves (etc England didn't recognize France).

Let's not talk aqoonsi but aqoon.

I see no reason why SL should be part of AMISOM camp whether recognized or not though I consider recognition a great curse---at least in Africa.

Somalia is a good example of recognized state that is suuli. It got them no where.

The secret to success is internal strength and inner prosperity. Somalis always want the short cuts in life; in career, family, politics, etc. They always want to cheat the very system just to eat for a day and go starving for 364 days. They think like danyeer. Recognition is for danyeer.

If SL wants success it has to go through all the hurdles and walk over all the coal.

We have to develop internally by focusing on inner-vision driven goals and self-believe. I always say aqoon before aqoonsi.

I hate recognition talk.
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Somaliland is better of without recognition. it will only make us weaker and indebted. recognition will come but we should first stay as absolute loyal and contributing citizens thats what somaliland is all about.
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WaaliCas wrote:Guys I'm against recognition. At least I'm not for wasting so much resources on it searching. Allah recognizes you fcuk the cadaan and his stamp. Ain't important. Themselves at one point in their statehood formation no body recognized them including amongst themselves (etc England didn't recognize France).

Let's not talk aqoonsi but aqoon.

I see no reason why SL should be part of AMISOM camp whether recognized or not though I consider recognition a great curse---at least in Africa.

Somalia is a good example of recognized state that is suuli. It got them no where.

The secret to success is internal strength and inner prosperity. Somalis always want the short cuts in life; in career, family, politics, etc. They always want to cheat the very system just to eat for a day and go starving for 364 days. They think like danyeer. Recognition is for danyeer.

If SL wants success it has to go through all the hurdles and walk over all the coal.

We have to develop internally by focusing on inner-vision driven goals and self-believe. I always say aqoon before aqoonsi.

I hate recognition talk.
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TheYusuf + Meth,

I'm glad you both hold those views. We need the fake politicians to have a little of that and less talk about aqoonsi.

If I was in charge of Hargeisa I would dismiss the entire so called Foreign Ministry. The most important ministries for me are;

1) Interior Ministry;

Security is prominent and inner harmony. I wouldn't just have the army and police but I would place the so called Ministry of information under Interior and get ordinary civilians to develop programs and messages that both inform and educate the nation about the internal strength, basically big propaganda but with fruits of course.

2) Finance/Treasury;

Managing the little fund is must and developing check-and-balance sound mechanism that wins the public faith is must. Not only are you asking them to give but you have to provide and sell them taxation like a ZAAD product rather than knocking on their doors.

Under the Taxation Office, I would create a Diaspora account. All Landers in the Diasporas will be asked to contribute 5% of their annual wage. Those who do will get recognition ID/card, which means when they arrive in the country they may be given land subsidy or their business forms proposed faster and given first priority. You have to give the Diaspora incentives as to why they should contribute.

A lot of Diasporas lease cars for example when they visit. If they are big contributors, the Treasury office may give them a car to use while on holiday in SL. There are so many ways to empower them and reward them.

Only one company per industry should be allowed to invest in SL from Somalia for example in finance say First Bank. No more. In total there should not be more than 10 konfur companies operating in SL. We will balance them with the regional private investors. No SL company be importing from Somalia solely. If Omaar imports fruits from Hiiraan, then Dahabshiil must import from Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Ethiopia. That's if we need to important and can't grow it or make it locally. The old no child on Somaliland soil should stand against all foreigners including Somalia. All Konfurians must have their kids outside SL. We must control all kinds of contaminations.

3) Education

Education in SL needs major overhaul and reform from ground zero. There must be monthly assessment and a benchmark to meet. Any private institution that fails should see their license confiscated.

No private educations should number more than 5 in the same field. They must offer different faculties and curriculum. For example there shouldn't be more than 5 institutions offering medical or engineering. They must distribute and try different fields in order to fill up forgotten fields and thus increase the skills in the country and diversify their knowledge base. We don't need five institutions graduating all nurses and no trades men or carpentry.

Any foreign universities such as University of Kenya, Addis Ababa University or whatever should not be franchised by some kid and turned into a private profiteering institution. If these kind of universities wish to come to SL, they should open proper campus under their management and board of staff.

Private franchisee should be only accepted if the brand or university they franchising is also private institution in its respective country such as Admas University College.

That's all for today guys.



Aqoon before aqoonsi. Aqalka horta hoosta ka dhiis oona ka qurxii marka beer uu yel iyo deer banaanka laga arko.
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