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Post by gedo_gurl »

There is this Muslim revert brother who works in Jordan called Geoff Lawton who is also married to a woman from Jordan. He used ayahs from the Quran as inspiration to regreen the area with fruit trees. He used 1/5 of the water expected and within time they managed to desalinate the water, provide non groundwater water source by collecting rainwater and keeping it wells, produce crops which didn't fail during drought without GMO's and restored the compost to the area as well. The other great thing is that goats also have something to graze on if used responsibly.

The Quran has the answers to all of our problems and we use only - 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of Allah's wisdom bestowed on us through the Prophet SCW and the Noble Quran.

With this idea we can grow crops, feed our people, our goats, have a reliable and safe water supply and use the remaining money for education and health. We have so much unused land land and the rainwater is not only wasted but is seen as a nuisance subhanaAllah. Insha Allah I'll start this project my self in the few years . Ilaahey baa rizaaqadda bixiya. I think that in your regions, there is cheaper land which is considered non farmland. You can actually make it profitable for your family and wider community and increase water security using this model.

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I think I watched this on YouTube.I this where he grooves in the ground to collect moisture.And turned a place that hadn't seen any plants for millennia lush green
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Yes! He even said that a land with valleys and grooved landscape (like many now arid parts of Somali regions) were even better for producing crops and humidity. We can even grow Mushrooms in Somali lands with this idea.
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I've been following him for a while now. :up:

You should check out Rhamis Kent. He's worked with some communities in Somalia ( I think was the Sanaag area).



http://beyondhalal.com/2012/12/rhamis-k ... maculture/
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I watched the whole thing and this man is better than every head of state Somalia has ever had and has ever visited Somalia. Why do people celebrate Siyaad Barre when people like this man have better ideas and more hope in Somalis and the land? Siyaad Barre chose planting dacar (aloe) over food to overcome desertification because of our culture,, but it didn't work well and it was hastily put out. One month of research and handing desert farms over to the community to produce food and create harmony would have been better.
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He even mentioned those Arabs practically stealing our animals from us. Where are the leaders? I think that the Somali wadani's he works with have the right idea by working for the country without becoming politicians.
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Gedo_Girl,

Where will you start your project?
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In Garbahaarey. The water there has become salty during the war, actually only in the last seven years has the water been salty. It used to have flowing rivers (tog) with fish and birds like the stork and pelican everywhere, but because there were a lot of water there were a lot people going there to feed their camels and cows which decimated the shrubs, grass and trees. To make things worse, people have taps and motors using the groundwater supply and the town became like a desert in ten years and thats how the famines in the past few years happened. I want to conserve the water supply and bring back the native grass and shrubs and add fruit trees so that people don't have to rely on Baardheere so much. The road need to be fixed and tarmaced like all regions in Somalia and I'm hoping that having a farm there will encourage the government to see potential there and just dig the roads.
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Is Garbaharey still in the hands of Al Shabaab?

The problems are the motors used to tap water. Depending on salinity, ground water might not always be suitable for cultivation.
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Yes and no. They really only have a stronghold in Baardheere because they extort the businesses and farms there which earns them money. They're in and out of Garbahaarey with the government mainly in control during the day when they're in control due to a lack of rescources and troops. The government want it secured because its on the border with Ethiopia and the locals are resistant to them because their presence means Ethiopian troops. They actually refered to the locals as 'dad diinta diidan' despite their extreme religious conservatism, because they flout their laws as much as they can get away with it which weakens them because they generally won't kill residents, only soldiers and aid workers. They killed all the Sheikhs there years ago (beheaded them like ISIS do) and built their own mosque which people are resistant to praying in because of the bad memories. If Al Shabaab become weak, they scuttle off to Baardheere or put isbaaro on the roads to prevent people from leaving so that they can come back to a town. A lot of people in Gedo have moved out to save their children from forced marriage and recruitment so they're running a lot of ghost towns. Its a struggle, but insha Allah they'll be defeated and now with the new hospitals being built there will be more interest in town because it will service surrounding gobolo as a hub for healthcare.
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Xildiiid wrote:Is Garbaharey still in the hands of Al Shabaab?

The problems are the motors used to tap water. Depending on salinity, ground water might not always be suitable for cultivation.
Rain water (even if sucked up and brought over from flooded areas) can be used conservatively to grow plants. As the video demonstrated, you can build very cheap underwater reservoirs which don't lose water to evaporation so this is all in the realms of possibility. The motors are bad, but people want development and so do their families. There are many solutions to water insecurity and they are all relatively cheap and feasible.
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there is alot of water available even in the desert 90 percent if it evaporates . only a tiny fraction of rainwater is retained.
by rainwater harvesting and planting the right trees
you can conserve allot of rainwater.
so much so that in a few years you get dry wells coming to life around you.
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gurey25 wrote:there is alot of water available even in the desert 90 percent if it evaporates . only a tiny fraction of rainwater is retained.
by rainwater harvesting and planting the right trees
you can conserve allot of rainwater.
so much so that in a few years you get dry wells coming to life around you.
And what those trees are ?
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Geoff has done a wonderful job in Jordan, but let us be careful in claiming every scientific miracle is secretly coded in the Quran and Muslims fail to decipher it. Having said that, I've been also following this new method of farming where environmentally ruined land has been turned into lush green and fertile pastures and this process is very simple and cheap, because a farmer has carefully studied the natural functioning of the land/farm. It is called natural sequencing farming. Initially, most scientists dismissed the idea of this farmer, but when he turned around his ruined farm and increased its productivity, his theory of natural sequencing which offers a low cost solution to dry and salinity lands became widely accepted and practiced in Australia's dry continent.

Natural Sequencing Farming.

http://www.nsfarming.com/index.html
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gedo


I think Quran needs to be thoroughly translated to English, and then --we need English speaking scholars---so that the Quran can be analyzed and scholarly researched. Why don't we have essay and opeds or even Cambridge companion to Quran? I think the Arabic language is a barrier. Who is fluent in Arabic and can read Quran very well? We can collaborate together and write a scholarly best seller walaahi. All western knowledge has been take from the old Moore and Ottoman empire. And mind u--these Moores or Ottomans did not literally or scholarly translate the Quran. It is derived from their own readings of Quran and somehow incorporated into their Arabic culture. Imagine if u just sat down and studies Quran chapter by chapter using the worlds best analytical minds? :o
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