somalis in America. ..soo gala

[jalaaludin5]

Every now and then there is a new trend in somalinet. Recently its been about pigmentation and ever since couple of faraxs discovered something called E1b1b there has been nothing but smoke on this forum. Some members are loosing their mind and can't seem to work out where exactly they fit into the RAINBOW..

ma black ba? Maya waa maarin. Malaha waa akhtar jabis. lol

NOW MY QUESTION IS...

Are black Americans really racist towards Somalis? I never been to the land of abeeso and home of the tuug but in the UK that's not the case. I can honestly say I have never been discriminated against for been a Somali. And I am also fully aware of difference between AA and Black Caribbean community in the UK.

Few yankee faraaxs mentioned that other ethnic groups are more racist than white Americans (I don't know how to take that statement). Is the white man's racism overshadowed but the racism of other ethnic groups? (Makes no sense).

Or are all other ethnic groups fighting for masser's attention? (Plausible).


So what gives?

[StormShadow]

I don't know about being discriminated by AA's

[Kaafiye]

AA's tend to have a hostile attitude towards Somalis, and so do Jamaicans.

But I've also noticed that African immigrants (Nigerians, Angolans, Ghanaians, Senegalese) are very friendly and warm to Somalis, and we tend to have a lot in common when it comes to culture and values. Somalis and sub-Saharan Africans seem to get along very well

[mahoka]

It is because skinny black somalis try to say they are half arabs or not black thus black people shake their heads

[lander24]

Nah no real problems out here in Minneapolis with AA.. we control south minneapolis pretty much, but their seems to be a problem with Native Americans and Somalis tho from what I've seen.. I think thats dying out soon tho

[Advo]

In Seattle they show us love, AA's know us simply as "Africans" but u will always get "are u habasha or Somali" since both these communities have a huge population here.

When I was young, our manager (may allah bless his soul) basically use to school me on knowledge, and tell me about the deen, black history, and his experience growing up in the 30"s and 40's. His house was a collection of his past. He had documents, tapes etc personally handed down by prominent civil right fighters like MLK, Rosa Parks, met people like mohamed ali and Malcolmx.

He was sadden when he found out the people he came to help (Somalis) were racist against madows, he couldn't understand muslims who were black in appearance showed such prejudice. alxamdulilah later, he was accepted by the community.


Anyways somalis who were either born here or grew up here, consider themselves 100% black africans, its always the older generation or recent arrivals who view AA's as knife wielding hoodlums.

[iandi]

Don't know about the UK but i can speak for america. As a caribbean immigrant i've seen both side of the fence.
You will always find an ignorant knucklehead AA here and there but by and large if you are friendly to AAs they will be friendly toward you.
I also was originally put off by the absolute disdane some somalis seems to have toward AAs. Just imagine black people from america emigrating to a prosperous somali and having that kind of attitude toward the native people there and then you might understand why some AAs might be first flabbergasted then return fire with fire as far as being hateful toward emigrants like somalis or even some Caribbean people for that matter.

I also think that both AAs and caribbean people have/had a healthy respect for africans knowing that a major part of their lineage came from that continent. As such.... and really before the internet came along these people had a romanticized way of looking at africans and africa. With the advent of the internet they really get to see and hear the full spectrum of thought of people from the continent with many of them being completely taken by surprise.

Good thread.

[Bandit]

Like above poster said AA in Minneapolis are not bad people and usually stay in their lane. But native Americans are the f-king worst.

[gegiroor]

In my experience with AAs, I divide them into 3 groups: (1) The older group; (2) the affluent ones; (3) the average AAs.

The first group love Africans and would put their life on the line if they see you in trouble. This group of people were around during the civil rights struggle. To them, any black men (or women) is their their bros and and sistas and should be defended at all cost. One of my neighbors is in that league. Sadly, this group of AAs are dying off now.

The second group are well-off blacks such as prominent actors, politicians, journalists, and musicians. Majority of this group seem to be fine in my book. One example is Tavis Smiley, Jesse Jackson, and so forth.

Now the third group - Average AAs - is where disaster exists. Their view on average blacks from Africa is not a good one. They are too arrogant, insecure, and most importantly very violent. They are too jealous of any black person from Africa who is prosperous. They are too weak to band together and help each other in corporate America, and they seem to have an entitlement mindset. This is the larger group of AAs, I would say at least 80%, and they're the kind of people you want to stay away and have nothing to do with.

All in all, my view on AAs is to keep your distance. On this, I am fully in agreement with Kaafiye. I have worked with Nigerians, Ghanians, and one brother from Togo, and they have all advised me to keep your distance from AAs. I've seen with real life experiences what those men were telling me. If other fellow Africans in America are keeping their distance, why can't we (Somalis) do the same?

To the contrary, my view on white Americans have been generally a positive one. Those who gave me references, mentored me, and befriended me have been whites. I've also seen racist whites who discriminate me as well. However, by and large, I've found white Americans to be good, decent, and reasonable.

[SahanGalbeed]

Do you want my answer as a somali , or a an individual .
As a somali {a tribal man who sees things in tribal ways } I would go with gerigoor .
As an individual however , I had a couple of bad experiences with AA but I do not dwell on it , the good outweighs the bad .Waste of time trying to understand how can a person be so different{ inside} , I conduct myself like a mother Theresa on crack . You need me I'm here , if not fuc,k you !
Life has generally been much better ever since.

The biggest problem , if there is any, is with the fact that somalis do not want to be categorized in a group other than theirs , one cannot UNDO thousands of years of genetics overnight , even in America !

[SahanGalbeed]

In my experience with AAs, I divide them into 3 groups: (1) The older group; (2) the affluent ones; (3) the average AAs.

The first group love Africans and would put their life on the line if they see you in trouble. This group of people were around during the civil rights struggle. To them, any black men (or women) is their their bros and and sistas and should be defended at all cost. One of my neighbors is in that league. Sadly, this group of AAs are dying off now. (a)

The second group are well-off blacks such as prominent actors, politicians, journalists, and musicians. Majority of this group seem to be fine in my book. One example is Tavis Smiley, Jesse Jackson, and so forth.

Now the third group - Average AAs - is where disaster exists. Their view on average blacks from Africa is not a good one. They are too arrogant, insecure, and most importantly very violent. They are too jealous of any black person from Africa who is prosperous. They are too weak to band together and help each other in corporate America, and they seem to have an entitlement mindset. This is the larger group of AAs, I would say at least 80%, and they're the kind of people you want to stay away and have nothing to do with.

All in all, my view on AAs is to keep your distance. On this, I am fully in agreement with Kaafiye. I have worked with Nigerians, Ghanians, and one brother from Togo, and they have all advised me to keep your distance from AAs. I've seen with real life experiences what those men were telling me. If other fellow Africans in America are keeping their distance, why can't we (Somalis) do the same?

To the contrary, my view on white Americans have been generally a positive one. Those who gave me references, mentored me, and befriended me have been whites. I've also seen racist whites who discriminate me as well. However, by and large, I've found white Americans to be good, decent, and reasonable.

(a)AA nobility
In a world where people are judged by their color , of course they will drown, but we din't invent that system we're trying not to go down as well , as best we can.

[gegiroor]

Do you want my answer as a somali , or a an individual .
As a somali {a tribal man who sees things in tribal ways } I would go with gerigoor .
As an individual however , I had a couple of bad experiences with AA but I do not dwell on it , the good outweighs the bad .Waste of time trying to understand how can a person be so different{ inside} , I conduct myself like a mother Theresa on crack . You need me I'm here , if not fuc,k you !
Life has generally been much better ever since.

The biggest problem , if there is any, is with the fact that somalis do not want to be categorized in a group other than theirs , one cannot UNDO thousands of years of genetics overnight , even in America !

My view on AAs have nothing to do with tribal, {you old man who is high majority of the time} I gave a balanced answer where I divided them into 3 sections and made it clear the last group to be a disaster. Current US President Barrack Obama could not get a cab (taxi) in New York due to him being black American. He relayed his experience in 2008 and last year. Majority of cab drivers in New York are black Africans, black Caribbeans, Asians, Middle Easterners, Hisbanic, and Italians. Are they all tribal?

You {old man who is high majority of the time} need to understand that many other groups in this country have had enough with the insecure, violent, and murderous blacks gangsters. If you like them, so be it!

Why are people so sizzying up this fake Caribbean wannabe? She is a Somali chick claiming to be Caribbean. I guess the old man named SahanGalbeed likes to impress non-Somalis!

[SahanGalbeed]

Wow, I think you should take abreak , abti


tribalism , def:
the state or fact of being organized in a tribe or tribes.
Classifiying people in sub groups , profiling people, all that is "tribalism"

[SomaliWarSavage]

they hate on us and say we're not real blacks, personally i don't even care they act like being black is a compliment.

[Kaafiye]

they hate on us and say we're not real blacks, personally i don't even care they act like being black is a compliment.

They're right. We are an entirely different people from them.