Somalia would be much better under Al-Shabaab rule

[gacankudhiigle]

somalia under al shabaab rule had many benefits that the current govt cannot fulfill. even though icu era was much better, al shabaab's rule was decent. inshallah more corrupt mp's will be taken care of by xarakat shabaab al mujaahidiin. walaaga soo mantajin doona hantida dadweynaha soomaaliyeed.

1. somalia was ruled under the Law of Allah
2. under al shabaab, qabyaalad was at an all-time low since kacaan era
3. because of the lack of tribal wars under al-shabaab, areas under their rule were stable
4. they didn't bring fufus to the country
5. they are the only group fighting against fufu neo-colonizers, uganda, kenya, ethiopia, and co.
6. business was fair
7. somali women weren't exposed to abuse by fufu soldiers
8. al-shabaab wasn't used to fight for the interests of a clan such as the somali national army/didn't take sides during clan wars but mediated them
9. al-shabaab fighters don't rape scores of somali women, even in idps, like somali national army soldiers
10. everyone was equal before the law so justice was ensured

[Kaafiye]

Al Shabab soldiers used to abuse their authority and mistreat people who were under their control. This is well documented.

[gacankudhiigle]

bring the proof adeer

xarakat al shabaab al mujaahidiin were just in their dealings with the citizens of the islamic state. much better than culusow ngo govt.

[Itrah]

Al-Shabaab are the scum of the earth and I suspect them to be a CIA & Saudi funded and controlled group. Damn outside influences, this is most definitely not a Somali organization. It is purposely designed to hold back Somalia.

Only gullible morons with double digit IQs believe that Al Kebab is good for Somalia.

[SomaliWarSavage]

if they're muhajideen than why don't you join them? instead of trolling forums.

[gacankudhiigle]

continue with your clan wars if you wish but i warn the ignorant, inshallah the brothers will continue to unite regardless of clan, colour, or accent and continue the struggle against the crusaders and the apostate govt of somalia bi'idnillah.

[Itrah]

continue with your clan wars if you wish but i warn the ignorant, inshallah the brothers will continue to unite regardless of clan, colour, or accent and continue the struggle against the crusaders and the apostate govt of somalia bi'idnillah.

Al Shabaab = CIA = America = Devil.

[gacankudhiigle]

continue with your clan wars if you wish but i warn the ignorant, inshallah the brothers will continue to unite regardless of clan, colour, or accent and continue the struggle against the crusaders and the apostate govt of somalia bi'idnillah.

Al Shabaab = CIA = America = Devil.

stop the conspiracy theory waryaa. shabaab baqiya.

[TheCadaanGuy]

somalia under al shabaab rule had many benefits that the current govt cannot fulfill. even though icu era was much better, al shabaab's rule was decent. inshallah more corrupt mp's will be taken care of by xarakat shabaab al mujaahidiin. walaaga soo mantajin doona hantida dadweynaha soomaaliyeed.

1. somalia was ruled under the Law of Allah
2. under al shabaab, qabyaalad was at an all-time low since kacaan era
3. because of the lack of tribal wars under al-shabaab, areas under their rule were stable
4. they didn't bring fufus to the country
5. they are the only group fighting against fufu neo-colonizers, uganda, kenya, ethiopia, and co.
6. business was fair
7. somali women weren't exposed to abuse by fufu soldiers
8. al-shabaab wasn't used to fight for the interests of a clan such as the somali national army/didn't take sides during clan wars but mediated them
9. al-shabaab fighters don't rape scores of somali women, even in idps, like somali national army soldiers
10. everyone was equal before the law so justice was ensured

1. Yes and no. It would be ruled under the Law of Allah according to Al-Shabaab's interpretations. Many of their views have been thoroughly discredited by many scholars with evidences given. It's not Allah's law if you follow it in wrong way.

2 & 3. Good point. Qabyaalad doesn't always cause deaths and can be beneficial sometimes but yeah good point.

4. Yet at same time, Al-Shabaab brought fufus to the country.

5. If Somalia did not fall into civil war, it would have been quite powerful and rich by now. In order to keep that way, Kenya and Ethiopia would have been its natural enemy as its not really possible to have more than 1 powerful nations within one region especially not when there are no natural resources or knowledge. Uganda would be irrelevant to Somalia just as Sudan or Tanzania is irrelevant to Somalia.

6. It would be still fair with any other non-corrupt government.

7. See my #4.

8. A good government would do that. Al-Shabaab isn't necessary for this to happen.

9. Actually some of them did.

10. Justice was equal? You're kidding right?

Al-Shabaab would have been beneficial to the country in some ways but it would have been much worse in many ways.

Perhaps one thing you should understand: Al-Shabaab wasn't just some good guys who came to fix the mess. They took advantage of the mess and recruited people pretending that they were the good guys. It was only that until after few years, we saw for who they are.

If you want to know what it would be like to live in Al-Shabaab rule, try living in daesh. Orders will be barked at you. If they saw even a slightest deviation from you, you would have been put to death. Also, if you don't agree something, it's off with your head. No room for debate even if you present a clear evidence that you're correct.

Even in non-Islamic matters, you're not allowed to say otherwise either. Want nuclear power instead of solar/wind power to built? Hell no, it's off with your head.

[gacankudhiigle]

somalia under al shabaab rule had many benefits that the current govt cannot fulfill. even though icu era was much better, al shabaab's rule was decent. inshallah more corrupt mp's will be taken care of by xarakat shabaab al mujaahidiin. walaaga soo mantajin doona hantida dadweynaha soomaaliyeed.

1. somalia was ruled under the Law of Allah
2. under al shabaab, qabyaalad was at an all-time low since kacaan era
3. because of the lack of tribal wars under al-shabaab, areas under their rule were stable
4. they didn't bring fufus to the country
5. they are the only group fighting against fufu neo-colonizers, uganda, kenya, ethiopia, and co.
6. business was fair
7. somali women weren't exposed to abuse by fufu soldiers
8. al-shabaab wasn't used to fight for the interests of a clan such as the somali national army/didn't take sides during clan wars but mediated them
9. al-shabaab fighters don't rape scores of somali women, even in idps, like somali national army soldiers
10. everyone was equal before the law so justice was ensured

1. Yes and no. It would be ruled under the Law of Allah according to Al-Shabaab's interpretations. Many of their views have been thoroughly discredited by many scholars with evidences given. It's not Allah's law if you follow it in wrong way.

2 & 3. Good point. Qabyaalad doesn't always cause deaths and can be beneficial sometimes but yeah good point.

4. Yet at same time, Al-Shabaab brought fufus to the country.

5. If Somalia did not fall into civil war, it would have been quite powerful and rich by now. In order to keep that way, Kenya and Ethiopia would have been its natural enemy as its not really possible to have more than 1 powerful nations within one region especially not when there are no natural resources or knowledge. Uganda would be irrelevant to Somalia just as Sudan or Tanzania is irrelevant to Somalia.

6. It would be still fair with any other non-corrupt government.

7. See my #4.

8. A good government would do that. Al-Shabaab isn't necessary for this to happen.

9. Actually some of them did.

10. Justice was equal? You're kidding right?

Al-Shabaab would have been beneficial to the country in some ways but it would have been much worse in many ways.

Perhaps one thing you should understand: Al-Shabaab wasn't just some good guys who came to fix the mess. They took advantage of the mess and recruited people pretending that they were the good guys. It was only that until after few years, we saw for who they are.

If you want to know what it would be like to live in Al-Shabaab rule, try living in daesh. Orders will be barked at you. If they saw even a slightest deviation from you, you would have been put to death. Also, if you don't agree something, it's off with your head. No room for debate even if you present a clear evidence that you're correct.

Even in non-Islamic matters, you're not allowed to say otherwise either. Want nuclear power instead of solar/wind power to built? Hell no, it's off with your head.

sxb stop exaggerating. shabaab are not like isis. isis is too extreme for anyone's standards. they don't execute people without reason. also, they don't follow a misguided interpretation of sharia because they have so many scholars who spent their lives studying Islam. xarakat is dynamic because it has scholars, afghan war veterans and also well armed and trained youth who are more than prepared to take on the crusaders.

they didn't bring fufus sxb. abdullahi yusuf laid the foundation for amisom by bringing xabashis to fight against the courts. while xarakat was fighting against the crusaders, the apostate govt of muqdisho was requesting fufu reinforcements. Wal iyadu billah!

answer this sxb would you trust natural resources with this corrupt govt considering they have signed off Somali waters to the fufus and want to give majority of oil revenues to norwegians?

[Rambie]

OH MY GOD!
The amount of ignorance & BS your spit when talking is not only nasty, but sickening to a stomach turning degree.

Didn't Al shabaab execute many people on the basis of adultery without a fair trail?
They kill anyone they hear rumors about him or her having an affair, skipping the 4 witness condition when taking a life of a fellow Muslim insensitively. Is that a Muslim Sharia?

Don't you remember Casha Duholow, a 14 years old girl that was stoned to death
when she reported her rape to Al shabaab? Is that what you want for Somalia?

Don't you remember the actions of this group during the famine, when they denied that there was a any, claiming it was a "usual drought!" They refused the "gaal" to deliver food to the tenth of thousands of starving fellow Muslims, yet ironically, they looted whatever food that was being distributed in the few ares they allowed or had a partial control over (raiding aid food designed for dying people) They principally carry the burden of over 250,000 Muslim who died under their watch in 2011

Didn't this group forced thousands of families to give their sons away for their twisted version of jihad?
And after he below up some building or get killed on the way, their only response is " He is a shahid in heaven!"

Don't this group have foreign elements in its high ranks, The abu something Al Amriki that was killed and
all those high commanders who came from US, UK, Arabia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Ethiopia etc ....
Hell that ISIS butcher Jihadi John was on his way to join Alshabab when they caught him the airport. Aren't all those Khawarj considered "foreigners" to Somalia as well? Or are you going to hide behind Islam like what ignorant people like yourself always do?

You're probably one of those clueless arab wannabes who live comfortably in the west & type all this BS from
his mom's basement, believing it's the least he can do for his religion .... cyber jihading !

What can I expect from you, you just opened a thread that is titled "What makes one tribal militia stronger than others" viewtopic.php?t=366856&p=4511694#p4511694

Who does that in Ramadan?!
And who uses the pic of a criminal as an avatar?

I really hope you end up with Al shabab, Al qaida or Islamic state you """""""""""""""

[gacankudhiigle]

again no proof.

ha ii calaacalin niyow bring proof intaad oohinta joojisid keen cadeyn tuseysa iney xarakat shabab mujahidiin falalkaas banu admiyadeed u geysteen shacabka soomaaliyeed.

[Rambie]

Arab wanabe,

If you don't know at least half of what I just said, than you're a lost case.
Keep your head in the sand for all I care, just man up and stick to your word IS is right around the corner.

[gacankudhiigle]

bal eega inagumeedkan inagumeedku dhaley wuxu na odhanayo. war kama tirsani dawle islamiyye. waxaan ahey qof ka helay dhaqanka iyo gobanimada xarakat sh Al mujahidiin

[Rambie]