Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process?

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Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process?

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Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process? :lol:

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IGAD has workd tremendously hard For Jubba Admin for the Past three years ,Using money - Military Power - diplomatic connections , Yet the Jubba admins is confide to Kismayo and Afmadow
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Re: Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process?

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Simple, none of their countrymen/kinsmen stand to benefit from the mamuul
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Why on earth would you want them in Cadaado?
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Re: Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process?

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The more foreign intervention the more trouble. Alshabaab,kenya and Ethiopia all want to control jubaland directly or indirectly. the region may get into even more serious security situation than its today.

kenya vs alshabaab
Ethiopia vs kenya (interest)
ethiopia vs alshabaab
marehan vs kablalax
darod vs others

and so on.
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Re: Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process?

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There is nothing of value for Ethiopia or Kenya in the 1.5 gobol. No ports, rivers, farmland or strategic location to be gained. It is the most resource poor part of Somalia. All that is there is a broken down highway :lol:

While Jubaland is basically the richest region in Somalia, a comparison is an insult.
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Re: Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process?

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Waxaa la yiraah "Maroodigu takarta saaran ma arkee, kan kale takarta saaran buu arkaa".

The GS, I agree with you Jubba is more resourceful than Galmudug, but how about when compared to Puntland?
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Re: Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process?

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They've sent 4 of their dogs to Adado to disrupt the state formation process instead.
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Re: Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process?

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CQ, Puntland has unity and can actually function as a government. What I can tell you for sure is that Himan&Heeb, Galmudug, Ahlusunna will continue to exist even after this mamul is created. I simply don't see any of these groups giving up their autonomy. The federal state being formed is just a name, it does not really mean anything.
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War jiraba cakaaruu iman sxb.
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Re: Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process?

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Hassan Shiekh Students are doing wonderful Job - He must be Proud congrats :som: :up:

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Congrats to the Interior minister Cabdiramaan Maxamed Xuseen (Odowaa)
Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha iyo Federaalka Mudane Cabdiramaan Maxamed Xuseen (Odowaa) ayaa u mahad-celiyay Odayaasha Dhaqanka, Guddiga Farsamada, Maamulka Ximin iyo Xeeb iyo dhammaan saaxiibada beesha caalamka sida hufan ee ay uga qeyb qaateen dhismaha maamulka gobolladda Mudug & Galgaduud.


JADWALKA DHAMEYSTIRKA DHISMAHA MAAMULKA GALMUDUG:

21/6/2015 - Sameynta Kaararka Aqoonsiga Xildhibaannada
22/6/2015 - Xafladda Dhaarinta Xildhibanadda, Magacaabista Shir-guddoon KMG
24/6/2015 - Sameynta Guddiga Doorashooyinka Guddoonka Baarlamaanka
27/6/2015 - Doorashadda Guddoonka Baarlamaanka Maamulka
29/6/2015 - Sameynta Guddiga Doorashooyinka Madaxweynaha iyo ku Xigeenkiisa
30/6/2015 - Qabashadda Liiska Murashaxiinta Madaxweynenimo
02/7/2015 - Dhageysiga Qudbooyinka Musharraxiinta Tartamaya
04/7/2015 - Doorashadda Madaxweynaha iyo ku Xigeenkiisa

- See more at: http://www.hiiraan.ca/news/2015/Jun/war ... Tqjd6.dpuf
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Re: Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process?

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The conflict in JL is about land and quite resembles the situation in lower shabelle if not worse

In the central region people r just sharing admin

Ahmed madobe and his OG need a good local advisers instead of listening aliens who may have few farms or few cows in there

They need to acknowledge that this is not one clans territory like some admins where every city cosists one major clan and act as a reconciliatory leader like sharif hassan who have deputies, ministers and advisers from the all the xamar affiliated clans including

Btw hes the only regional leader who received so far the funds that were allocated for the regions to build their institutions (about $70m who r based in nairobi)

What you got now is a large alliance between his traditional rivals, D&M and all these clans

This pm only cares about his seat and he doesnt dare to confront such a large alliance

At the end it will reach laguma heshiin karo and this alliance want to limit his existence in kismayo until...
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Sahal means Harti when he says aliens with few farms and cows. loool this guy can be read so easily. Harti is a Major power in Jubbaland and are Natives of the land For 150 years. For your Information Darood are 80% of Jubbaland Land & Population.
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Re: Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process?

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Didn't Harti move there in the 1920's to work, correct me if I'm wrong with a source of course. They are not natives. They live along the coast. close to Kismaayo. Same goes for the Hawiyes in Bari, not natives.

Baseless claims, 80 %, he picked that out of his nose.

Current Jubbaland will fall, give it some time.
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Re: Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process?

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in the Mid 1800s, Harti moved to Jubbaland around the same time as Absame & Sade, there were Galla and Oromo Clans there, the Daroods removed them and pushed all the way to the Tana river.. Anything West of the Jubba river is Darood, and Anything East is others, We have the Larger territory and ofcourse the Bigger Population. Few Sheikhals, Galjecel, Bimaal, Cawramale, Wardey, Jareer, Bajuun & DM can't compare to the Darood's in Jubbaland.
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Re: Why is IGAD and Gen Gabre Absent from Centre state formation Process?

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    PrinceNugaalHawd wrote:Sahal means Harti when he says aliens with few farms and cows. loool this guy can be read so easily. Harti is a Major power in Jubbaland and are Natives of the land For 150 years. For your Information Darood are 80% of Jubbaland Land & Population.
    this is the problem of this region when every one claims it!

    Dadkiina reer waqooyiga ah stick to your own local admins!

    Every group has right to say xaqbaa iga maqan laakin not to be a front runner

    This is my opinion as what can work for them


    for a political settlement they have to cooperate, empower and include all the natives and ignore all the external interventions

    They need to think of post-amisom specially kenya who will withdrew as soon the wall gets erected and ahead of the 2017 elections

    This is their opportunity to act reconciliatory and establish the state across the three regions other wise we will see a repetition of the long conflict

    Personally im only interested in a stable south
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