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AMISOM Forces Do Not Want To Get Out Of Somalia Nor Do They Want To Fully Defeat Al Shabaab:

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And why would do, they earned salary of $1500 a month unheard off for an adoon solider in Africa, they are free to rape and kill with impunity inside the Somali border they have it beyond good in Somalia.
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"Moreover, the original expectation that a United Nations force would eventually replace AMISOM has long since died. Nor do the ]AMISOM forces necessarily want to get out of Somalia (or fully defeat al Shabab): The international funding they receive for their effort makes for good living for their soldiers and a substantial financial boost for their military institutions. Moreover, their presence in Somalia allows them to pursue their regional interests and enhance their importance with the broader international community.



AMISOM has weak headquarters to which few member countries pass on any information, let alone intelligence, or bother to coordinate. Some AMISOM commanders maintain highly personalized and sometimes outright subversive agendas: There are credible rumors that AMISOM units have sold fuel and arms to al Shabab or looted humanitarian convoys."
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Re: AMISOM Forces Do Not Want To Get Out Of Somalia Nor Do They Want To Fully Defeat Al Shabaab:

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That's exactly what we've been saying for years. There is no benefit in funding foreign soldiers to fight in Somalia. It'd be best to arm, train, and pay the Somali forces instead.

Imagine if we paid each Somali soldier 1500 dollars per month. Thousands of Somali boys would be willing to sign up for the military, and they would actually have an incentive to destroy Al Shabab since they're the ones who are Somalis.

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Kaafiye wrote:That's exactly what we've been saying for years. There is no benefit in funding foreign soldiers to fight in Somalia. It'd be best to arm, train, and pay the Somali forces instead.

Imagine if we paid each Somali soldier 1500 dollars per month. Thousands of Somali boys would be willing to sign up for the military, and they would actually have an incentive to destroy Al Shabab since they're the ones who are Somalis.

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It's beyond stupid, not even African doctor's make what these guys are getting paid.

The Somali soldier makes $100 a month and that's if he get's paid on time that month. :lol:
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knet wrote:And why would do, they earned salary of $1500 a month unheard off for an adoon solider in Africa, they are free to rape and kill with impunity inside the Somali border they have it beyond good in Somalia.
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"Moreover, the original expectation that a United Nations force would eventually replace AMISOM has long since died. Nor do the ]AMISOM forces necessarily want to get out of Somalia (or fully defeat al Shabab): The international funding they receive for their effort makes for good living for their soldiers and a substantial financial boost for their military institutions. Moreover, their presence in Somalia allows them to pursue their regional interests and enhance their importance with the broader international community.



AMISOM has weak headquarters to which few member countries pass on any information, let alone intelligence, or bother to coordinate. Some AMISOM commanders maintain highly personalized and sometimes outright subversive agendas: There are credible rumors that AMISOM units have sold fuel and arms to al Shabab or looted humanitarian convoys."
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles ... alia-again
Absolute nonsense from racist fools who are envious of the succes of somalia. They should first tell us what the UN mission in Congo achieved all those years,- the largest UN force in the world. With all that money.
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Re: AMISOM Forces Do Not Want To Get Out Of Somalia Nor Do They Want To Fully Defeat Al Shabaab:

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knet wrote:
It's beyond stupid, not even African doctor's make what these guys are getting paid.

The Somali soldier makes $100 a month and that's if he get's paid on time that month. :lol:
Ati not even africa doctors are earning $1500 PM? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Talk of things you know about.
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Re: AMISOM Forces Do Not Want To Get Out Of Somalia Nor Do They Want To Fully Defeat Al Shabaab:

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BeyondQabil wrote:
knet wrote:
It's beyond stupid, not even African doctor's make what these guys are getting paid.

The Somali soldier makes $100 a month and that's if he get's paid on time that month. :lol:
Ati not even africa doctors are earning $1500 PM? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Talk of things you know about.
We would expect you to have this position, you Kikuyu troll. Of course you would prefer that your Kenyan countrymen make thousands of dollars while they rape/exploit my people.
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BeyondQabil wrote:
knet wrote:
It's beyond stupid, not even African doctor's make what these guys are getting paid.

The Somali soldier makes $100 a month and that's if he get's paid on time that month. :lol:
Ati not even africa doctors are earning $1500 PM? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Talk of things you know about.
Wallahi I wasn't even joking. The Ugandan Doctor in his own country makes $245 a month and were paying the Ugandan foot soldier $1500 a month to rape and kill in Somalia. Something is seriously wrong with this picture.
Each year, about 320 medical students graduate from Ugandan universities, more than in any other east African state. In the public health system, a doctor can expect to earn on average 700,000 shillings ($245) a month, compared with Sh3.8m earned by a civil servant and Sh2.4m by an accountant.
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Re: AMISOM Forces Do Not Want To Get Out Of Somalia Nor Do They Want To Fully Defeat Al Shabaab:

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Hire & train 100,000 Somali Forces, Navy, Army, Intelligence, Security, Airforce, Correctional, Police,Coast Guard, National Guard & Body Guards, etc. and pay them $500 a month. that would make a great difference in unemployement, the econmy and our confidence. remove the Amisom soldiers, they helped us but it's time for them to leave.
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Re: AMISOM Forces Do Not Want To Get Out Of Somalia Nor Do They Want To Fully Defeat Al Shabaab:

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we can only blame those who brought them to somalia. ........ wait that is .....
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Re: AMISOM Forces Do Not Want To Get Out Of Somalia Nor Do They Want To Fully Defeat Al Shabaab:

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PrinceNugaalHawd wrote:Hire & train 100,000 Somali Forces, Navy, Army, Intelligence, Security, Airforce, Correctional, Police,Coast Guard, National Guard & Body Guards, etc. and pay them $500 a month. that would make a great difference in unemployement, the econmy and our confidence. remove the Amisom soldiers, they helped us but it's time for them to leave.
And the Americans/Europeans have already stated their willingness to fund such an exercise. This would only cost about a hundred million dollars per year, which is nothing compared to the amount of aid the United States gives to countries such as Egypt, Pakistan, and Uganda.

Unemployment is a real problem in Somalia, and this could help recruit some high-quality recruits.
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Re: AMISOM Forces Do Not Want To Get Out Of Somalia Nor Do They Want To Fully Defeat Al Shabaab:

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Kaafiye the west isn't paying up much to Somalis because they consider us cheap slaves. We are willing to fight for their cause for little.

If I was a Somali leader, I would tell them 10 Billion dollars a year without question or else we will all join Al Shabaab. lol

They don't care about us and we shouldn't care about them. This is business they need to pay up more if they want us to keep Al Shabaab at bay.

Somalis are not afraid of Al Shabaab it's the west who are. lol
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Kaafiye, they would help pay and Gulf, Turkey, Japan plus the West and UN would all help. and it would really help us economically and lower unemployment. Imagine all the Families that will benefit, Stores, Restuarants, Landlords, Businness, Schools, Hospitals. all that money will be kept and spent inside of Somalia.

50,000 Army
10,000 National Guard
10,000 Navy
5,000 Airforce
5,000 Security
2,000 Coast Guard
2,000 Body Guard
10,000 National Police
5,000 Correctional
1,000 Intelligence
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Re: AMISOM Forces Do Not Want To Get Out Of Somalia Nor Do They Want To Fully Defeat Al Shabaab:

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qabiil mobilisation is the only way Somalia can have real defence forces.

Darod: 15 thousand financed by their admins puntland and jubaland
hawiye: 15 thousand financed by mogadishu shabeele/ hiran state.
digil midhifle and dir: 15 thousand financed by South west state.

its 45 thousand national army. there must be an independent military council.
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Re: AMISOM Forces Do Not Want To Get Out Of Somalia Nor Do They Want To Fully Defeat Al Shabaab:

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If Somalia received proper funding from the West, and if our Somali leaders weren't so wretched and corrupt, we could easily fund 100,000 professional Somali soldiers, as well as receive tanks, airplanes, helicopters, ships, machine-guns, artillery, and jeeps. There are dozens of old Navy ships which NATO puts out of commission every single year. Somalia could easily receive these old Navy ships, refurbish them, and use them for our Navy.

All it takes is a little dedication from Hassan Sheikh to make this happen, but this idiot would rather concern himself with things of no importance...rather than using his position to empower his country.

There are thousands of Somali boys who graduate from university every single year, with absolutely no job prospects due to the terrible state of Somalia's economy. If they were given positions in the military, they could easily use their education to become Officers in the Somali military. And we could attract high-quality recruits to the armed forces. If each of them were making 1500 dollars per month indefinitely, then they could be even more motivated to actually pacify our country. Al Shabaab could be destroyed within a few months. We could hire Somali intelligence officers, undercover agents, police officers, special-forces commandos, and detectives. We could send these Somali boys to the United States where they could be trained by the FBI on how to conduct police investigations. We could easily request the US Marine Corps on helping us create a Somali Special Forces Unit.

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All this does is require a leader with some dedication and competence. This current Somali President has none of that, and that's why we're running around in circles while we have 20,000 Bantu soldiers occupying our country and exploiting our people. It's disgusting. It's a travesty and our noble Somali forefathers would be turning in their graves if they knew what became of our country.

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theyuusuf143 wrote:qabiil mobilisation is the only way Somalia can have real defence forces.

Darod: 15 thousand financed by their admins puntland and jubaland
hawiye: 15 thousand financed by mogadishu shabeele/ hiran state.
digil midhifle and dir: 15 thousand financed by South west state.

its 45 thousand national army. there must be an independent military council.
This is the main ingredient in the recipe for massive qabiil war.
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