A challenge to somali-siz
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A challenge to somali-siz
Somali-slitz
On one of your copy and paste threads from a wahabist website you advocated for a jihad that involves fighting the KUFRS at any cost. In that thread one could read how you glorified various atrocities as "allowed" in islam.
It is your kind of islam that gives our religion a bad name. You are easily flattered by arab based literature that is culturally biased and politically motivated- and attempt to interwove it with islam (a universal religion). It seems that you are an ambassador for an arab cause/wahabism and in the process subject our eyes to a growing literature of hatred.
A case in point is the notion of JIHAD. According to non wahabi literature this is an essential part of islam and it relates to the individuals ability to refrain from the temptations of the worldly thing. It is about learning, performing obligations and becoming a good person.
To blow oneself (and in the process killing innocent lives) is NOT jihad. That is terrorism and it is condemned by ISLAM. Killing human beings because they don't share your faith or because you disagree with them is not JIHAD. That is called murder and islam condems murder.
Saying that men would get 72 virgings is a testimony of how our faith has been reduced to a sexual/freudian fuzz- likewise saying women who blew themselves up would end up being fucced by men.
A challenge to you and your other nickname is to tell us when it becomes an obligation (FARDU KIFAAYAH) to blow human beings to pieces? Where do you get your sick definition of JIHAD?
Isn't Jihad a concept rather than an action?
Call me kufr if you wish but in The name of Allah you can't tarnish the name of OUR religion by your wahabist propaganda.
On one of your copy and paste threads from a wahabist website you advocated for a jihad that involves fighting the KUFRS at any cost. In that thread one could read how you glorified various atrocities as "allowed" in islam.
It is your kind of islam that gives our religion a bad name. You are easily flattered by arab based literature that is culturally biased and politically motivated- and attempt to interwove it with islam (a universal religion). It seems that you are an ambassador for an arab cause/wahabism and in the process subject our eyes to a growing literature of hatred.
A case in point is the notion of JIHAD. According to non wahabi literature this is an essential part of islam and it relates to the individuals ability to refrain from the temptations of the worldly thing. It is about learning, performing obligations and becoming a good person.
To blow oneself (and in the process killing innocent lives) is NOT jihad. That is terrorism and it is condemned by ISLAM. Killing human beings because they don't share your faith or because you disagree with them is not JIHAD. That is called murder and islam condems murder.
Saying that men would get 72 virgings is a testimony of how our faith has been reduced to a sexual/freudian fuzz- likewise saying women who blew themselves up would end up being fucced by men.
A challenge to you and your other nickname is to tell us when it becomes an obligation (FARDU KIFAAYAH) to blow human beings to pieces? Where do you get your sick definition of JIHAD?
Isn't Jihad a concept rather than an action?
Call me kufr if you wish but in The name of Allah you can't tarnish the name of OUR religion by your wahabist propaganda.
Last edited by Globetrotter- on Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:47 am, edited 1 time in total.
"Isn't Jihad a concept rather than an action?"
Again Globe you have a personal agenda in fighting the so called Wahabism, but to chalenge a 17, 18 or even 28 yr old somali woman who happens to believe(and the she is not the only one btw) that the west is oppressing the muslim world by giving Isreal more than 200 nuclear war heads and not allowing... even Iran to peacfully develop a nuclear energey program, well if you are still bilnd folded by somali triblism and the locality of it, then its a problem of yours, but dont you ever forget that you are a muslim, wether you have visited Jerusalem or Not!!!!!
Again Globe you have a personal agenda in fighting the so called Wahabism, but to chalenge a 17, 18 or even 28 yr old somali woman who happens to believe(and the she is not the only one btw) that the west is oppressing the muslim world by giving Isreal more than 200 nuclear war heads and not allowing... even Iran to peacfully develop a nuclear energey program, well if you are still bilnd folded by somali triblism and the locality of it, then its a problem of yours, but dont you ever forget that you are a muslim, wether you have visited Jerusalem or Not!!!!!
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Cawar,
As a somali we should mind our business . Jews have never done anything to us somalis (You can't imagine how many somalis have been helped by jews).
And further this issue is a political one and has nothing to do with islam.
If the fuccing arabs care about africa why is it that no one talks about Mauritania? Somalia? Sudan?
What has nuclear weapon proliferation have to do with islam????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
This is a political statement that has found its way in wahabism. I am sure if the so called MUSLIM countries develop a nuclear weapon, their first target would be other muslim countries:
So my friend spare us the nonsense
As a somali we should mind our business . Jews have never done anything to us somalis (You can't imagine how many somalis have been helped by jews).
And further this issue is a political one and has nothing to do with islam.
If the fuccing arabs care about africa why is it that no one talks about Mauritania? Somalia? Sudan?
What has nuclear weapon proliferation have to do with islam????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
This is a political statement that has found its way in wahabism. I am sure if the so called MUSLIM countries develop a nuclear weapon, their first target would be other muslim countries:
So my friend spare us the nonsense
"Cawar,
As a somali we should mind our business . Jews have never done anything to us somalis (You can't imagine how many somalis have been helped by jews)."
This is where your narrow and naive mind tends to get confused.
Of course I can imagine how many somalis have been helped by the jews and by Isreal....lets put it into perspective and into numbers if you want.... how abt that???
Lets say 300 or maybe 500 or even a 1000 Somali...
I want to ask you ..how many somali have been helped by Arabs????? do you have any idea any number??? maybe not...but it would be in the hundreds of thousands....so why prefer the jews over Arabs(it really beats me... as you are saying why somalis prefer Arabs over Jews??!!!)???? its not even logic according to ypur standard. Do we have a God given right over Arabs to help us??? according to you???
OK... Globe....you have so many holes to be scrutinized and criticized to and about, but your appetite for criticism is just for Islam and whoever speaks for it, so why would you hide behind any fence sxb?????????
As a somali we should mind our business . Jews have never done anything to us somalis (You can't imagine how many somalis have been helped by jews)."
This is where your narrow and naive mind tends to get confused.
Of course I can imagine how many somalis have been helped by the jews and by Isreal....lets put it into perspective and into numbers if you want.... how abt that???
Lets say 300 or maybe 500 or even a 1000 Somali...
I want to ask you ..how many somali have been helped by Arabs????? do you have any idea any number??? maybe not...but it would be in the hundreds of thousands....so why prefer the jews over Arabs(it really beats me... as you are saying why somalis prefer Arabs over Jews??!!!)???? its not even logic according to ypur standard. Do we have a God given right over Arabs to help us??? according to you???
OK... Globe....you have so many holes to be scrutinized and criticized to and about, but your appetite for criticism is just for Islam and whoever speaks for it, so why would you hide behind any fence sxb?????????
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Cawar, typical nonsense.
I don't have numbers that relate to how many somalis have been helped by either jews or arabs- but I know that a somali or even any other muslim for that matter would get a fair treatment from israel than any arab country.
You are attempting to play "we are muslims" card but that is pure rubbish as many have witnessed. Muslims kill more muslims than non muslims- that is a fact that can't be disputed.
You are enjoying the fruits of kufrs. I am sure you have travelled miles; You have probably sacrificed many things in the process of harvesting the fruits.
Wahabism is alien to islam and what it stands for my friend.
I don't have numbers that relate to how many somalis have been helped by either jews or arabs- but I know that a somali or even any other muslim for that matter would get a fair treatment from israel than any arab country.
You are attempting to play "we are muslims" card but that is pure rubbish as many have witnessed. Muslims kill more muslims than non muslims- that is a fact that can't be disputed.
You are enjoying the fruits of kufrs. I am sure you have travelled miles; You have probably sacrificed many things in the process of harvesting the fruits.
Wahabism is alien to islam and what it stands for my friend.
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Naa heedhe waxaad meesha ku noqotay love carbeed - thus the word "somalislitz".
Noocaaga waan aqaanaa koleey waxaad tahay islaamaha caqliga laga xaday oo islaanimo iyo carabnimo aan kala saari karin. Islamarkaana diinta si xun u fasirta.
Get a life and spare us your messages of hatred.
Cyberwhore.
There are intelligent muslims who would never buy wahabism.
Get married. I am sure your underlying motive is to seek a husband. Get a dildo.
Noocaaga waan aqaanaa koleey waxaad tahay islaamaha caqliga laga xaday oo islaanimo iyo carabnimo aan kala saari karin. Islamarkaana diinta si xun u fasirta.
Get a life and spare us your messages of hatred.
Cyberwhore.
There are intelligent muslims who would never buy wahabism.
Get married. I am sure your underlying motive is to seek a husband. Get a dildo.
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your too cruel Globe..Anyways i thought u wasnt fond of the religion since u are always advertising xaraam products... what is, ramadhaan changed u...for how long? NOW i aint here to judge you but its funny how ONE forumer can piss u off that u run off to your books to do you own little studying, when before you couldnt be asked to even comment on an islamic thread... so why the change of attitude???
Somali siz dont let him talk to you like that....
Somali siz dont let him talk to you like that....
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Mizz,
I am a muslim- I do error. I drink, commit sins etc but I am aware of my faith.
I see some tendencies from wahabist inspired somalis who want to change islam into an arab phenomenon. Our religion is under fire from people like somalislitz who promote an arab political agenda.
Yeah, I did perform ramadan (except for a few days when I travelled) and refrained from alcohol.
I am a muslim- I do error. I drink, commit sins etc but I am aware of my faith.
I see some tendencies from wahabist inspired somalis who want to change islam into an arab phenomenon. Our religion is under fire from people like somalislitz who promote an arab political agenda.
Yeah, I did perform ramadan (except for a few days when I travelled) and refrained from alcohol.
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Or better, somalisizz tells us the reasons for this in the islamic:
Why does Yemen have over 1000 clans?
Why is the entire muslim world publish fewer books then Spain?
why do they read fewer books then the city of Tel Aviv?
Why are muslims leaving Islamistan to go Kafirstan?
Why poor health standards, life expectancy, poor drinking water, little or not invention or innovation, no democratic or representative governments save few...
I got more but please answer me those questions first
Why does Yemen have over 1000 clans?
Why is the entire muslim world publish fewer books then Spain?
why do they read fewer books then the city of Tel Aviv?
Why are muslims leaving Islamistan to go Kafirstan?
Why poor health standards, life expectancy, poor drinking water, little or not invention or innovation, no democratic or representative governments save few...
I got more but please answer me those questions first
Last edited by dhuusa_deer on Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
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