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“The journey to Europe was worse than what I left behind in Somalia”

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Idris* is a 20-year-old, trained nurse from Somalia. Ten days ago, he arrived in Pozzallo, Sicily, after enduring a six-month ordeal in the hands of smugglers - travelling through Ethiopia, Sudan and Libya and finally crossing the Mediterranean in a small plastic dinghy.

Upon arrival in Pozzallo he was screened by Médecins Sans Frontières/Doctors Without Borders (MSF), who – working with the Ministry of Health – provide healthcare to migrants, asylum seekers and refugees whilst they are staying at the primary reception centre in the town.

Idris's story

“I did not know how hard the journey would be. What I experienced reaching Europe was worse than what I left behind in Somalia.

In Libya, I had suicidal thoughts. If I had found some rope I would have put it around my neck. I would tell my friends back home, 'no, don’t make the journey.'

I travelled by bus for 20 days from Somalia to Ethiopia and on to Sudan. Then, it took 16 days to reach the Sahara desert and a further 11 to cross it, sleeping during the day and walking at night.

How many people were killed in that room? I can’t bear to think about it.

I was beaten every single day by the four smugglers guiding us. They would beat everyone. The men would shout at the women to go with them, and when they refused they would pull off their headscarves and shave their heads. They also beat their breasts. They burnt the soles of our feet with hot metal bars.

Once, when they were drunk, they tied me up in the shape of a cross and fired bullets at me. You should see my back after so many beatings.

Trapped in Tripoli

When I reached Tripoli, I was locked in a room by the smugglers for three to four months. It is hard to know exactly how long I was kept there like an animal.

I could not move or stand up, and there were no windows. By the end of my time there the space was crammed with up to 500 people. We were given one small cup of food a day, and were allowed just a little amount of water each. If you spoke, they beat you.

People were really suffering, and were in pain from being forced to remain in the same position for so long. There were also those with claustrophobia.

How many people were killed in that room? I can’t bear to think about it.

Smugglers' demands

The smugglers called my mother to ask for money. They wanted US$1,000. She had to ask the local Muslim community for the money.

My parents and siblings live in a refugee camp and before I left I was working so we could send my brother to school. Now, they had to raise money for me.

One night, the smugglers let us out of the room and brought us down to the ocean.

There was a plastic dinghy waiting for us with 125 people aboard, all from Somalia. In between my legs sat a woman who was eight months pregnant, and pressed up against my back was a woman who was five months pregnant.

I knew I couldn’t risk putting pressure on the baby – so I had to hold the same position for days. We spent six days on that dinghy, not moving.

We had about six litres of water for everyone, which we gave mainly to the women and to those who were sick. I would share the water I had with the pregnant women.

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Fear of capsizing

Every time someone had to stand up, people would shout with fear and panic as they were scared the boat would capsize.

On the sixth day I fell unconscious. I was dehydrated and my stomach was completely empty. I just passed out.

When I opened my eyes, the doctor on the Italian coastguard ship was performing first aid on me.

My sister is living in Helsinki, Finland, and I want to join her there. I want to thank Italy for saving my life, for saving all our lives. I have always dreamed of becoming an eye doctor, ever since I was young. I don’t know if that will be possible now. But I do know it’s not possible in Somalia."

*name has been changed

http://www.msf.org.uk/article/italy-the ... in-somalia
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I just wonder why do Somalis choose the Libyan route, and not the other routes? Syrian refugees go through the Turkey route and I know this Somali guy who recently refused to go through the Libyan route after he heard the ordeal that people go through there. He went to Iran to Turkey and finally end up in Germany. I just don't understand why people want to take the risk to go through the Sahara dessert where the heartless, nomadic Libyan tribes and gangs can abuse them? Somalis are just stubborn people who never learn from history!
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gegiroor wrote:I just wonder why do Somalis choose the Libyan route, and not the other routes? Syrian refugees go through the Turkey route and I know this Somali guy who recently refused to go through the Libyan route after he heard the ordeal that people go through there. He went to Iran to Turkey and finally end up in Germany. I just don't understand why people want to take the risk to go through the Sahara dessert where the heartless, nomadic Libyan tribes and gangs can abuse them? Somalis are just stubborn people who never learn from history!
People are just desperate to get to jannah(Europe). Most of them either don't care the dangers they are putting themselves in or they are ignorant. I can't blame them for seeking better life.
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As a European born Somali I absolutely hate these new Somali immigrants. They should close the borders ASAP.

Somalis are way overrepresented in Europe and this is very bad. The country only has a population of 10 million, but Somalis are one of the MOST COMMON African immigrants in Europe. This is really screwed up for Somalia (brain drain etc).

I bet if Western countries never accepted Somali migrants en masse, Somalia would be better by now (as people are forced to fix their own shit instead of fleeing).
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Robotic wrote:
gegiroor wrote:I just wonder why do Somalis choose the Libyan route, and not the other routes? Syrian refugees go through the Turkey route and I know this Somali guy who recently refused to go through the Libyan route after he heard the ordeal that people go through there. He went to Iran to Turkey and finally end up in Germany. I just don't understand why people want to take the risk to go through the Sahara dessert where the heartless, nomadic Libyan tribes and gangs can abuse them? Somalis are just stubborn people who never learn from history!
People are just desperate to get to jannah(Europe). Most of them either don't care the dangers they are putting themselves in or they are ignorant. I can't blame them for seeking better life.
I did not question why would they go to Europe or seek a better life. I questioned why would they take the Libyan route - which is the most horrific route that any migrant goes through. I just wish they choose another route.

Back to story, a nurse can earn a decent living in Somalia, so I even question why would that guy risk to go through this ordeal when he can earn a decent living in any Somali town? I hope others learn the lesson that they consider other routes, and not the risky prone Libyan route.
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Only if they knew what awaits them in Europe dhibkaan ma mareen!
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I have seen estimates that nearly 250 billion $ has been wasted on Somali refugees since the 90s by accepting them in EU countries.

What an incredible waste of money. With that kind of capital one could've weeded out all the warlords and al-shabaab easily by now instead of accepting these refugees.

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Walahi I don't get those people.
If someone can gather a 20-30k for tahriib, why he/she does not start a business in their home town?

What's even worse, those who sell their lands, properties and possessions to tahriib!
I knew things are bad back home, but there is nothing worth gambling your life like that for "get rich or die trying" BS
Those who made it will probably end up as a dead weight and unproductive members on their host communities.
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Itrah wrote:I have seen estimates that nearly 250 billion $ has been wasted on Somali refugees since the 90s by accepting them in EU countries.

What an incredible waste of money. With that kind of capital one could've weeded out all the warlords and al-shabaab easily by now instead of accepting these refugees.

:mindblown:
link?
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gegiroor wrote:
Robotic wrote:
gegiroor wrote:I just wonder why do Somalis choose the Libyan route, and not the other routes? Syrian refugees go through the Turkey route and I know this Somali guy who recently refused to go through the Libyan route after he heard the ordeal that people go through there. He went to Iran to Turkey and finally end up in Germany. I just don't understand why people want to take the risk to go through the Sahara dessert where the heartless, nomadic Libyan tribes and gangs can abuse them? Somalis are just stubborn people who never learn from history!
People are just desperate to get to jannah(Europe). Most of them either don't care the dangers they are putting themselves in or they are ignorant. I can't blame them for seeking better life.
I did not question why would they go to Europe or seek a better life. I questioned why would they take the Libyan route - which is the most horrific route that any migrant goes through. I just wish they choose another route.

Back to story, a nurse can earn a decent living in Somalia, so I even question why would that guy risk to go through this ordeal when he can earn a decent living in any Somali town? I hope others learn the lesson that they consider other routes, and not the risky prone Libyan route.
I never said that you questioned them. I said that they maybe are ignorant about it or their desire is so strong that they don't care if they risk their lives.
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Rambie wrote:link?
It was in an NGO report I read months ago. I can't find the source at the moment, but the figure is in that ballpark.
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Itrah wrote:As a European born Somali I absolutely hate these new Somali immigrants. They should close the borders ASAP.

Somalis are way overrepresented in Europe and this is very bad. The country only has a population of 10 million, but Somalis are one of the MOST COMMON African immigrants in Europe. This is really screwed up for Somalia (brain drain etc).

I bet if Western countries never accepted Somali migrants en masse, Somalia would be better by now (as people are forced to fix their own shit instead of fleeing).
I agree. I wish Western countries instead of accepting refugees funded proper refugee camps especially in places like Ogaden/NFD, started proper schools/hospitals etc in these camps. This way you help a lot of people and because refugee camps aren't permanent solutions you'd encourage people to return to their homes once things become more stable. You also wouldn't get opportunistic Somalis who didn't come from the worst areas fleeing, you have landers who brag about 25 years of so called peace and stability yet these guys ran to UK. Why? If it was peaceful and stable lol, they were economic migrants who abused asylum seeking.

Plus Somalis probably have some of the worst reputation in Europe. The less of us the better.
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Robotic wrote:
I never said that you questioned them. I said that they maybe are ignorant about it or their desire is so strong that they don't care if they risk their lives.
Alright, alright Robotic. Gotcha now :)
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