Question! Serious answers please

[Susu000]

After reading different threads on here I noticed the use of "laangaab" and "laandheer" I understand some qabiils are one and others are the other! Could someone please explain what it is and wich qabiils counts to what term?
Thanks
Curious Sue

[Buraanbur]

laandheer = large clan ( in terms of population, land mass, political influence, $$$$)
laangaab = direct opposite of laandheer.

Tell me your clan and I will tell you which category they fall into.

[Gabre]

All of them are broke, starving, fourth-worlder hicks actually.

[Susu000]

laandheer = large clan ( in terms of population, land mass, political influence, $$$$)
laangaab = direct opposite of laandheer.

Tell me your clan and I will tell you which category they fall into.

Abgaal, celi. My husband is HG, Sacad . Explain which both fall into
Cheers

[WaaliCas]

Susu I tho laan meant something ceeb in your Wanlawein language.

Laan in the pure Somali spoken in the north means branch...laanta socdalka, laanta Dahabshiil ee Burco, laan dheer, laan gaban, laan cas.

Laandheere in clan sense means one with longer branch or lineage (abtirisamo, more fathers). If theYuusuf is 4 fathers from Isaaq and I'm 25, then I am laandheere compared to theYuusuf meaning his family didn't multiply.

In another words laandheere is majority while laangab is minority---in the West that is equivalent to 'majority rules minority rights'.

So your folks should find another term to describe clans not their ceeb.

[Susu000]

Pretty much self explanatory what you just wrote.
If you say Laan means branch. Then maybe qabiils are referred to as laan, because it's a certain branch of a people? Makes sense ?

[RoobleAlWaliid]

The word and meaning originated in the north.

In the case of the kinship, the local power relations and influences was not only expressed in the form of the traditional king and leadership but also through the size (male population) of any segment compared to other segments of the same lineage. The segment that counted the greatest number of genealogical ancestors or generations of forefathers to the common ancestry assumed the status of laandheere (laan meaning the shoot and laandheere the longest shoot of the family tree) and had more often than not the largest size compared to the other related segments. The male population size was significant as this was the basis for the most important binding and quantitifiable social factor, i.e. the dia- and jifi- payments. The laandheere entailed some form of dominancy, as this would give that segment an advantageous position in terms of dia-payment and enforcement of rights or claims over the other segments. If the segment to which the traditional king belonged and the laandheere segment did not coincide, the local power relations were based on the cumulative and comprising capacities of these two local forces and this would subdue the bargaining clout of the smaller segments.

There you go Susu.

[Susu000]

The word and meaning originated in the north.

In the case of the kinship, the local power relations and influences was not only expressed in the form of the traditional king and leadership but also through the size (male population) of any segment compared to other segments of the same lineage. The segment that counted the greatest number of genealogical ancestors or generations of forefathers to the common ancestry assumed the status of laandheere (laan meaning the shoot and laandheere the longest shoot of the family tree) and had more often than not the largest size compared to the other related segments. The male population size was significant as this was the basis for the most important binding and quantitifiable social factor, i.e. the dia- and jifi- payments. The laandheere entailed some form of dominancy, as this would give that segment an advantageous position in terms of dia-payment and enforcement of rights or claims over the other segments. If the segment to which the traditional king belonged and the laandheere segment did not coincide, the local power relations were based on the cumulative and comprising capacities of these two local forces and this would subdue the bargaining clout of the smaller segments.

There you go Susu.

So, all the big clans are laandheer and minor clans are laangaab? Fair conclusion ?

[RoobleAlWaliid]

So, all the big clans are laandheer and minor clans are laangaab? Fair conclusion ?

Wrong conclusion and a common noob mistake , since you ignored the following.

The segment that counted the greatest number of genealogical ancestors or generations of forefathers to the common ancestry assumed the status of laandheere (laan meaning the shoot and laandheere the longest shoot of the family tree) and had more often than not the largest size compared to the other related segments.

One could have a big population, but still not qualify.

[Susu000]

Ok

[SiennaEarth]

It's a pathetic and offensive term used by Ain't shxt qabils to make themselves feel better for not being shxt. In my opinion all Somalis are langaabs because they live in the worlds poorest country and the poorest part of Africa and they are one of the largest immigrants and refugees in the world.

[TheMightyNomad]

All of them are broke, starving, fourth-worlder hicks actually.

So is ur family in ogaden getting fucked by Xabashis!

[HorseedS]

It's a pathetic and offensive term used by Ain't shxt qabils to make themselves feel better for not being shxt. In my opinion all Somalis are langaabs because they live in the worlds poorest country and the poorest part of Africa and they are one of the largest immigrants and refugees in the world.

NO my friend all that xaar you just spewed is nonsense. You are a perfect example of a langaab. I mean you're Salebaan for crying out loud. Had you been blessed to be from a landheere beel you wouldn't have had this tirade. Let the inner langaab of yours breath. Langaabnimo waa loo dhasha it's nothing to be ashamed of.

[Idman702]

Horseeds: MJ gaaaaaaaang.


Mohamud Saleban

[TheMightyNomad]

It's a pathetic and offensive term used by Ain't shxt qabils to make themselves feel better for not being shxt. In my opinion all Somalis are langaabs because they live in the worlds poorest country and the poorest part of Africa and they are the largest immigrants and refugees in the world.

lets examine this shall we

Poorest countries in the world

1 Democratic Republic of the Congo Congolese Fran
2 Zimbabwe Zimbabwean dollar
3 Burundi Burundi Franc
4 Liberia Liberian Dollar
5 Eritrea Nakfa
6 Central African Republic CFA
7 Niger CFA Franc
8 Malawi Kwacha
9 Madagascar

http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/wor ... e-world/7/

djibouti is not even in the top 20 let alone somalia isnt even in the top 10 heck we are even richer than eritrea!

The poorest regions in africa is West Africa!


in fact from an economic stand point somalia is doing ridicoulusly well and much better many other african nations! Believe or not we are richer than most african nations outside of north Africa!

http://www.irenees.net/bdf_fiche-analyse-786_en.html

The participants came to the conclusion that although the Somali economy has been in stagnation, it is today still stronger than that of many other countries in Africa – in terms of economic indicators such as GDP, imports and exports. Besides, the businessmen identified a wide range of economic sectors likely to boost Somalia’s economy, notably livestock and livestock products, agriculture, money transfer, telecommunication, infrastructure, oil and gas, mining, transport and tourism. What does that show?

Although Somalia has been without an effective government for more than 15 years, its economy is functioning well. It seems to be surprisingly stable – in stagnation, but stable, while it is mostly based on the private sector.

I. Today’s Somali Economy

One has to note that it was extremely difficult to find both reliable and recent figures concerning the present Somali economy. In general, one can say that “Somalia has maintained a healthy informal economy, […]. Statistics on Somalia’s GDP, growth, per capita income and inflation should be viewed sceptically […].” Indeed, figures alone should not be taken too seriously, as they do not reflect the reality, but simply an average which does neither take into account any inequalities, nor the gap between the rich and the poor.

We are not the largest refuuge/imigrant group in the world

Syrians largest refugee group after Palestinians: U.N.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/ ... AZ20150107

we might be one of the largest but not the largest!

Try to be factual next time when you try to bash your own people and dvelve into self pity!!