Twenty-nine of the nation’s top scientists — including Nobel laureates, veteran makers of nuclear arms and former White House science advisers — wrote to President Obama on Saturday to praise the Iran deal, calling it innovative and stringent.
The letter, from some of the world’s most knowledgeable experts in the fields of nuclear weapons and arms control, arrives as Mr. Obama is lobbying Congress, the American public and the nation’s allies to support the agreement.
The two-page letter may give the White House arguments a boost after the blow Mr. Obama suffered on Thursday when Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, a Democrat and among the most influential Jewish voices in Congress, announced he would oppose the deal, which calls for Iran to curb its nuclear program and allow inspections in return for an end to international oil and financial sanctions.
The first signature on the letter is from Richard L. Garwin, a physicist who helped design the world’s first hydrogen bomb and has long advised Washington on nuclear weapons and arms control. He is among the last living physicists who helped usher in the nuclear age.
Also signing is Siegfried S. Hecker, a Stanford professor who, from 1986 to 1997, directed the Los Alamos weapons laboratory in New Mexico, the birthplace of the bomb. The facility produced designs for most of the arms now in the nation’s nuclear arsenal.
Other prominent signatories include Freeman Dyson of Princeton, Sidney Drell of Stanford and Rush D. Holt, a physicist and former member of Congress who now leads the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the world’s largest general scientific society.
Most of the 29 who signed the letter are physicists, and many of them have held what the government calls Q clearances — granting access to a special category of secret information that bears on the design of nuclear arms and is considered equivalent to the military’s top secret security clearance.
Many of them have advised Congress, the White House or federal agencies over the decades. For instance, Frank von Hippel, a Princeton physicist, served as assistant director for national security in the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy during the Clinton administration.
The five Nobel laureates who signed are Leon N. Cooper of Brown University; Sheldon L. Glashow of Boston University; David Gross of the University of California, Santa Barbara; Burton Richter of Stanford; and Frank Wilczek of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
The letter uses the words “innovative” and “stringent” more than a half-dozen times, saying, for instance, that the Iran accord has “more stringent constraints than any previously negotiated nonproliferation framework.”
“We congratulate you and your team,” the letter says in its opening to Mr. Obama, adding that the Iran deal “will advance the cause of peace and security in the Middle East and can serve as a guidepost for future nonproliferation agreements.”
In a technical judgment that seemed more ominous than some other assessments of Tehran’s nuclear capability, the letter says that Iran, before curbing its nuclear program during the long negotiations, was “only a few weeks” away from having fuel for nuclear weapons.
Dr. Garwin and Dr. Holt were the main organizers behind the group that wrote and signed the letter, according to two of the letter’s signatories. The letter comes amid a flurry of organized efforts by supporters and opponents of the agreement to shape the public debate ahead of congressional action on the deal.
The body of the letter praises the technical features of the Iran accord and offers tacit rebuttals to recent criticisms on such issues as verification and provisions for investigating what specialists see as evidence of Iran’s past research on nuclear arms.
It also focuses on whether Iran could use the accord as diplomatic cover to pursue nuclear weapons in secret.
The deal’s plan for resolving disputes, the letter says, greatly mitigates “concerns about clandestine activities.” It hails the 24-day cap on Iranian delays to site investigations as “unprecedented,” adding that the agreement “will allow effective challenge inspection for the suspected activities of greatest concern.”
It also welcomes as without precedent the deal’s explicit banning of research on nuclear weapons “rather than only their manufacture,” as established in the 1968 Non-Proliferation Treaty, the top arms-control agreement of the nuclear age.
The letter notes criticism that the Iran accord, after 10 years, will let Tehran potentially develop nuclear arms without constraint. “In contrast,” it says, “we find that the deal includes important long-term verification procedures that last until 2040, and others that last indefinitely.”
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The Iran deal is a mistake.
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War is profitable so don't expect peace to break out anytime soon. 

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Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal in Letter to Obama
Would you rather Israel have unlimited power to bully it's Muslim neighbors with nuclear threats or have it challenged by Iran and making it difficult for Israel to interfere Millitarily and politically in other Muslim nations as it has frequently done in the past ?.Obscene wrote:The Iran deal is a mistake.
Are you against this deal for religious reasons , is it because they're shia ? or are you against Nuclear weapons in general and would like to see other nations reduce their Nuclear stockpiles and it has nothing to do with your personal bias and prejudice ?.
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Iran made a mistake, they should develop nukes. This is too much pandering. Shame on the new president
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If Iran gets a nuke, other countries in the region like Saudi Arabia & Turkey will also feel pressured to get them. Israel is the only rational nation in the Middle East that can be trusted with that kind of power.Alpharabius wrote:Would you rather Israel have unlimited power to bully it's Muslim neighbors with nuclear threats or have it challenged by Iran and making it difficult for Israel to interfere Millitarily and politically in other Muslim nations as it has frequently done in the past ?.Obscene wrote:The Iran deal is a mistake.
Are you against this deal for religious reasons , is it because they're shia ? or are you against Nuclear weapons in general and would like to see other nations reduce their Nuclear stockpiles and it has nothing to do with your personal bias and prejudice ?.
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You're misunderstanding what this deal is about, it's stoping or rather hindering Iran from getting a nuke. The deal is we gradually lift sanctions & embargoes and they give up their nuke program.Obscene wrote:If Iran gets a nuke, other countries in the region like Saudi Arabia & Turkey will also feel pressured to get them. Israel is the only rational nation in the Middle East that can be trusted with that kind of power.Alpharabius wrote:Would you rather Israel have unlimited power to bully it's Muslim neighbors with nuclear threats or have it challenged by Iran and making it difficult for Israel to interfere Millitarily and politically in other Muslim nations as it has frequently done in the past ?.Obscene wrote:The Iran deal is a mistake.
Are you against this deal for religious reasons , is it because they're shia ? or are you against Nuclear weapons in general and would like to see other nations reduce their Nuclear stockpiles and it has nothing to do with your personal bias and prejudice ?.
Win for the U.S., Iran, and Israel but lose for Bibi and the fear mongering GOP.

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Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal in Letter to Obama
The ultimate goal of the neocons is to subdue Iran by force. The Obama administration is trying to do that but with more sophistication. They're trying to deceive Iran with promises of lifted sanctions and western investment. Now, if the sanctions are lifted they will do what they did to Gaddafi. Infiltrate enough 5th columns (MI5 in Libya, in Iran's case most likely Mossad) to destroy the country from within.
Luckily, a sanction free Iran means a possible membership in the Shanghai cooperation and the Russian sale of S-300 minimizes the possibility of an attack on Iranian soil.
So either way, the Americans can't achieve their goals for now. The question is, when and what is their next move?
I salute the Iranian leaders for being wise enough to play this dirty game cautiously and bold enough to oppose a Middle East under the sphere of American and Israeli influence.
Sometimes I wish the Somali leaders weren't a bunch of brain dead prostitutes.
Luckily, a sanction free Iran means a possible membership in the Shanghai cooperation and the Russian sale of S-300 minimizes the possibility of an attack on Iranian soil.
So either way, the Americans can't achieve their goals for now. The question is, when and what is their next move?
I salute the Iranian leaders for being wise enough to play this dirty game cautiously and bold enough to oppose a Middle East under the sphere of American and Israeli influence.
Sometimes I wish the Somali leaders weren't a bunch of brain dead prostitutes.
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Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal in Letter to Obama
Iran is basically in the SCO once UN sanctions are lifted when the deal starts being implementedXildiiid wrote:The ultimate goal of the neocons is to subdue Iran by force. The Obama administration is trying to do that but with more sophistication. They're trying to deceive Iran with promises of lifted sanctions and western investment. Now, if the sanctions are lifted they will do what they did to Gaddafi. Infiltrate enough 5th columns (MI5 in Libya, in Iran's case most likely Mossad) to destroy the country from within.
Luckily, a sanction free Iran means a possible membership in the Shanghai cooperation and the Russian sale of S-300 minimizes the possibility of an attack on Iranian soil.
So either way, the Americans can't achieve their goals for now. The question is, when and what is their next move?
I salute the Iranian leaders for being wise enough to play this dirty game cautiously and bold enough to oppose a Middle East under the sphere of American and Israeli influence.
Sometimes I wish the Somali leaders weren't a bunch of brain dead prostitutes.
Plus the Chinese will be buying oil from Iran and using them as the heart of the New Silk Road
Iran is going to be beefed up and shielded away from further economic blackmail. AIPAC and the Israelis are everywhere on Capitol Hill trying to kill the deal.
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Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal in Letter to Obama
Exactly.FAH1223 wrote:Iran is basically in the SCO once UN sanctions are lifted when the deal starts being implementedXildiiid wrote:The ultimate goal of the neocons is to subdue Iran by force. The Obama administration is trying to do that but with more sophistication. They're trying to deceive Iran with promises of lifted sanctions and western investment. Now, if the sanctions are lifted they will do what they did to Gaddafi. Infiltrate enough 5th columns (MI5 in Libya, in Iran's case most likely Mossad) to destroy the country from within.
Luckily, a sanction free Iran means a possible membership in the Shanghai cooperation and the Russian sale of S-300 minimizes the possibility of an attack on Iranian soil.
So either way, the Americans can't achieve their goals for now. The question is, when and what is their next move?
I salute the Iranian leaders for being wise enough to play this dirty game cautiously and bold enough to oppose a Middle East under the sphere of American and Israeli influence.
Sometimes I wish the Somali leaders weren't a bunch of brain dead prostitutes.
Plus the Chinese will be buying oil from Iran and using them as the heart of the New Silk Road
Iran is going to be beefed up and shielded away from further economic blackmail. AIPAC and the Israelis are everywhere on Capitol Hill trying to kill the deal.
Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal in Letter to Obama
Saudi Arabia already has nuclear weapons they supplied and founded the Pakistani Nuclear program and at will Pakistani has to give saudi Arabia 10 nuclear weapons any time they ask for them.Obscene wrote:If Iran gets a nuke, other countries in the region like Saudi Arabia & Turkey will also feel pressured to get them. Israel is the only rational nation in the Middle East that can be trusted with that kind of power.Alpharabius wrote:Would you rather Israel have unlimited power to bully it's Muslim neighbors with nuclear threats or have it challenged by Iran and making it difficult for Israel to interfere Millitarily and politically in other Muslim nations as it has frequently done in the past ?.Obscene wrote:The Iran deal is a mistake.
Are you against this deal for religious reasons , is it because they're shia ? or are you against Nuclear weapons in general and would like to see other nations reduce their Nuclear stockpiles and it has nothing to do with your personal bias and prejudice ?.
Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal in Letter to Obama
So basically the UN sanctions are important of the two even if Congress didn't approve to lifting US'.
One thing I know is Iran ain't no Libya, they are ancient civilization that is united and sophisticated, in constrast to Iraq , which was deeply divided along religious sects.
One thing I know is Iran ain't no Libya, they are ancient civilization that is united and sophisticated, in constrast to Iraq , which was deeply divided along religious sects.
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Re: 29 U.S. Scientists Praise Iran Nuclear Deal in Letter to Obama
Nah. The Saudi contigent in the ISI is weaker than the nationalist and pro west secular folks.DMV wrote: Saudi Arabia already has nuclear weapons they supplied and founded the Pakistani Nuclear program and at will Pakistani has to give saudi Arabia 10 nuclear weapons any time they ask for them.
The Chinese would scuttle that deal.
The Saudis don't have the knowledge on how to operate nukes.

Yeah, the UN Sanctions and the ones that the Europeans had on Iran are the ones to watch. The U.S. sanctions on Iran for supporting Hezbollah/Hamas, the Syrian regime, anti-Israel rhetoric, not being democratic, etc will still be in place EVEN IF Obama vetoes and his Democrat colleagues manage to uphold the veto in Congress by preventing 2/3 majority.Siciid85 wrote:So basically the UN sanctions are important of the two even if Congress didn't approve to lifting US'.
One thing I know is Iran ain't no Libya, they are ancient civilization that is united and sophisticated, in constrast to Iraq , which was deeply divided along religious sects.
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