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Are Habar Jeclo People Somalis ?

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If Sheekh Isxaaq Was An Arab And The Mother Of Muuse, Cimraan,Sanbuur, and Axmed Was Xabaashi .. Then Can We Say Habar Jeclo Waa Soomaali ?

Habar Xabuusho Iyo Aabo Isxaaq Oo Carab Ahaa ??


Habar Magaadle ( Garxajis,Habar awal, Arab, Ayuub) Hooyadooda was A Pure Soomaali From The Magaadle Clan Of The Noble Dir Clan .. And They Were Half Somali .. Laakin Kuwaan Kale Maxay Ahaayeen ?
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Re: Are Habar Jeclo People Somalis ?

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Wallow kaana ceesaan.
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A Arab and a Habesha can't father Somalis, when Somalis are a older group. Don't give this myth to much thought.
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RoobleAlWaliid wrote:A Arab and a Habesha can't father Somalis, when Somalis are a older group. Don't give this myth to much thought.
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Nice graphic.

Perhaps this will make some of these dumb Somalis understand the Banu Hashim fraud.
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Anyone can become Somali.

CAD CADS are Somali.
Arab salaax are Somali.
Jareer are Somali.
MADHIBAANS ARE Somali.
Elaay and digil n mirifle are somali.
Mushunguli n xabash carbeed are somali.
All the half oromo half Somali clans can claim somali.

Somali maaha dad haal oday kaso jeeda.
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PrinceNugaalHawd wrote:Anyone can become Somali.

CAD CADS are Somali.
Arab salaax are Somali.
Jareer are Somali.
MADHIBAANS ARE Somali.
Elaay and digil n mirifle are somali.
Mushunguli n xabash carbeed are somali.
All the half oromo half Somali clans can claim somali.

Somali maaha dad haal oday kaso jeeda.

exactly :up: :up:
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RoobleAlWaliid wrote:A Arab and a Habesha can't father Somalis, when Somalis are a older group. Don't give this myth to much thought.
Why are you trying to run away from your heritage? This is what your people have believed for hundreds of years and have been propagated by your elders all this time through the abtirsi. Was that all a lie? Are all of your elders stupid for believing in and propagating an allegedly childish myth? Where do you Isaaqs come from if you're abtirsi is a myth? Are you all bastards?

The fact of the matter is, the Isaaq people are not Somali and have nothing to do with the Somali people. You should begin to align yourselves with your habesha reer abti as you are much more closer to them genetically than to ethnic and indigenous Somalis, whom you have absolutely nothing in common with.
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PrinceNugaalHawd wrote:Anyone can become Somali.

CAD CADS are Somali.
Arab salaax are Somali.
Jareer are Somali.
MADHIBAANS ARE Somali.
Elaay and digil n mirifle are somali.
Mushunguli n xabash carbeed are somali.
All the half oromo half Somali clans can claim somali.

Somali maaha dad haal oday kaso jeeda.
There's a difference between being ethnic and indigenous Somali and being a Somali by nationality. Madhibaan, D&M, Dir, hawiye, and raxanweyn are all indigenous Somalis whose ancestors have been in these lands for tens of thousands of years. Darod, Isaaq, Mushunguli, reer barawe, etc. are all of foreign origins and Somali by nationality only but are not and never will be ethnic Somalis.
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Ok whats the obsession with isaaq?

Archives are filled with the isaaq. God bless us.
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how many times will we have this argument.
J haplotype is not the only semetic one, and at least 25% of jews and arabs have E1b1b1 that most somalis do.

the story is much more complex than arab or somali ancestry.
There is a problem arising when you will find more than one haplotypes within the same clans...

but its not a problem when think of it the way i do.


I believe shiekh isaaq did come to somalia , but he came with an entourage of close friends/followers and family
these intermarried with the local population.
The Isaaq clan formed from the followers of shiekh isxaaq and his family/entourage..
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^exactly mostly khazars have J as a dominant gene more so than the average yahudi or arab. So i guess its a caucus gene. Even the dr oz that turkisj guy on tv got tested and he was a J :lol:
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But anyway id like to know where these ppl who start these threads ancestors also came from. Most do not know. I suggest u look up at your own ancestory.
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Why waste your time on this shit?
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Re: Are Habar Jeclo People Somalis ?

Post by LiquidHYDROGEN »

I'm getting really tired of this arab myth being perpetuated. It wasn't so bad when isolated and illiterate nomads believed those stories hundreds of years ago, but when you have kids in 21st century believing that crap it leads me to 1 of 2 conclusions - either Somalis just aren't very bright or they are deluded and want to believe these myths so badly that they are willing to forgo logic.

Whether or not Isaaq existed is neither here nor there. But due to genealogical inconsistencies and genetic studies, what is certain is that the Isaaq clan do not have any arab ancestry whatsoever. They are indigenous horners who have lived in the Somali Peninsula for thousands of years, just like every other ethnic Somali clan. Get that through your thick skulls. There was no Isaaq, No Xabashi women etc.
gurey25 wrote:how many times will we have this argument.
J haplotype is not the only semetic one, and at least 25% of jews and arabs have E1b1b1 that most somalis do.

the story is much more complex than arab or somali ancestry.
There is a problem arising when you will find more than one haplotypes within the same clans...

but its not a problem when think of it the way i do.


I believe shiekh isaaq did come to somalia , but he came with an entourage of close friends/followers and family
these intermarried with the local population.
The Isaaq clan formed from the followers of shiekh isxaaq and his family/entourage..
There are specific E1b1b haplogroups that have nothing to do with Somalis though. E-V13, for instance, is found mostly in the Balkans/Greece and the southern Mediterranean. That has nothing to do with the Somali E1b1b. By the same way, there are e1b1b haplogroups found in the middle-east and North Africa that have nothing to do with the Somali version of the E1b1b and are separated from them by tens of thousands of years. Also, a lot of Somalis have T-haplogroup which is found all over the world. Does that mean a Somali man with T haplogroup genes is directly descended form a Levantine with the same haplogroup? No because these markers were separated over thousands of years.

The only people who descend from arabs in the Somali Peninsula are Cadcads/Barwaanis/Reer Xamaris and they aren't even ethnic Somalis.
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Re: Are Habar Jeclo People Somalis ?

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One question

Horta why do darod talk about isaaq when jebarti was a fairytale based on sh Isxaaq. There is probably some truth in the sense that a sh from Arabia came to teach people about Islam, bit he did not have millions of children that claim isaaq today. As guray said, he probably had a group of other arabs traveling. But somali clans.are fake.
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