New Generation Somalis vs Old Generation - Gaal and Clan loyalty

[RoobleAlWaliid]

I noticed more and more Somalis are becoming gaalo. It mostly stems from ignorance and wrong upbringing. Atheist/agnostic Somalis seem to be the worst clannists, but at the same time can also be the least clannist Somalis, for example AbdiJohnson. His moral and values are strong.

They don't fear the hereafter.or Allah (swt) They live for this Dunya. They aren't preparing themselves for the hereafter so they become extreme in their fields. Some atheist/agnostic Somalis suffer from severe depression. As we know majority of the Atheists/Agnostic are not family oriented feeling and are most of the time a product of society. They see family or religion as a burden.

Since they don't really have a group to lean on or a cause and never were family oriented, they feel empty inside. They become nationalist Somalis(though this is not always the case, some become extreme clannist. They want to feel part of a group and appreciated and admired.

Some have noticed in the Western countries that White people will never accept them, regardless of their Atheism/Agnosticism. Some turn to other groups and were rejected. When all fails they just turn to their own ethnic.

Most Clannist Muslim Somalis on this forum who were raised in the West would still align themselves with these Atheists/Agnostics as long as they represent Somali's or their clan.

Were the previous generation like this?

I'm sure the Somalis back home feel like being Somali and a Muslim are synonymous. They would never tolerate this. To all atheists and agnostics willing to die for Somalis or their clan. Will you be up front with other Somalis and tell them that you are a Atheist/Agnostic or will you hide it for the rest of your life while pursuing your goal.

To all Muslim Somalis would you accept them as your brothers and sisters?

[nord]

Somalis are an ethnoreligious people.

[AgentOfChaos]

lolwut?

[NoThatAbdi]

They commit adulatory, incest and homosexuality, basically they have no morals.
I'd rather take in a jew into my house.

[Hyperactive]

in my experience, good people are good regardless of their religion. ive seen , so called religious who cheat, steal, lie, wrong others to advance their agenda. i wonder how they stand infront of God with that heart!

[Prlnce]

Only Somali atheist or agnostic I have encountered are from online chat rooms or forums. They are like a mythical creatures I have never come across one in my life. I wonder why that is?

Only people at are obsessed with qabiil and clan are people in the west doesn't matter if they old generation or younger ones. When I was in Somalia nobody was talking about qabiil people are too busy with their life.

[QuantumSatis]

I am cool with atheist Somalis who are respectful and attached to their society. They are closer to me than westerners I respect and admire for their honesty. Extending the same respect to a fellow kin by blood who is no less respectful is simple then.

I know some Somali atheists wouldn't extend the same courtesy to me or to Somalis, but it doesn't matter since I am superior(or supposed to be in terms of mannerism and humanity for having a guide that is solid if I was willing to follow through).

If I am okay with the guy who prayed next to me and then who vilifies a Somali clan as soon as he exits the mosque, I am more than willing to be okay with a Somali atheist whose harm doesn't go beyond himself. If the atheist is a woman, I would even marry her if I fell in love with her. Goodness is intrinsic and it doesn't have special religion, clan and ethnicity attached to it. Therefore, to me, a Somali is a Somali and will remain so always as long as that Somali isn't engaged in dividing society and attacking their faith.