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What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:59 pm
by jamal859
I know the primary reason y'all support secession is cause Somalis are still tribal and you fear the southern tribes would monopolize power and resources. But what if a nationalistic group took power in Xamar. Would there still be a need for secession.
Btw as a staunch Somali nationalist myself, I feel happy seeing my brothers up north prospering but I strongly oppose any disunity of all Somali people.
Re: What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:53 pm
by burcaawi14
Fok xamar! How about that. Monopoly? Worried? About you guys? You guys have the whole world picking apart the south meanwhile you "strongly oppose disunity ".
The problem is ppl like you who never did and never will see somaliland as a country that unified with another country. Instead you subtly use words like "secede", to undermined our sovereignty and our right to regain independence
Re: What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:52 pm
by jamal859
burcaawi14 wrote:Fok xamar! How about that. Monopoly? Worried? About you guys? You guys have the whole world picking apart the south meanwhile you "strongly oppose disunity ".
The problem is ppl like you who never did and never will see somaliland as a country that unified with another country. Instead you subtly use words like "secede", to undermined our sovereignty and our right to regain independence
I don't support the tribal government in xamar in any way. I'm a Somali nationalist as I said before.
Let me use your language then, Only the isaaq are calling for independence, so that already undermines your credibility and you aren't any different from the tribalists down south who you criticize.
It goes against my intelligence to stoop so low as to support any qaabil.
Re: What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:27 pm
by burcaawi14
jamal859 wrote:burcaawi14 wrote:Fok xamar! How about that. Monopoly? Worried? About you guys? You guys have the whole world picking apart the south meanwhile you "strongly oppose disunity ".
The problem is ppl like you who never did and never will see somaliland as a country that unified with another country. Instead you subtly use words like "secede", to undermined our sovereignty and our right to regain independence
I don't support the tribal government in xamar in any way. I'm a Somali nationalist as I said before.
Let me use your language then, Only the isaaq are calling for independence, so that already undermines your credibility and you aren't any different from the tribalists down south who you criticize.
It goes against my intelligence to stoop so low as to support any qaabil.
There's a difference. I support somalilands right to regain it's independence and that's completely political, I said nothing about clans. You're the one who injected that into the topic. I could care less about any beel; but If clan x,y and z don't agree well we could easily do a referendum and we know the vast majority of ppl would support gooni isu taag. Like i said in my previous post, you PPL can't bare the fact that somaliland was independent before somalia and is pushing to regain it's sovereignty. Certain clans don't define international borders, unfortunately we live in a post colonial world. If somalilands previous borders only included isaaq inhabited land than that's where somaliland would enforce it's policies. Horta Fix up you're house mate, we're fine the way we are.
Re: What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:51 pm
by jamal859
burcaawi14 wrote:jamal859 wrote:burcaawi14 wrote:Fok xamar! How about that. Monopoly? Worried? About you guys? You guys have the whole world picking apart the south meanwhile you "strongly oppose disunity ".
The problem is ppl like you who never did and never will see somaliland as a country that unified with another country. Instead you subtly use words like "secede", to undermined our sovereignty and our right to regain independence
I don't support the tribal government in xamar in any way. I'm a Somali nationalist as I said before.
Let me use your language then, Only the isaaq are calling for independence, so that already undermines your credibility and you aren't any different from the tribalists down south who you criticize.
It goes against my intelligence to stoop so low as to support any qaabil.
There's a difference. I support somalilands right to regain it's independence and that's completely political, I said nothing about clans. You're the one who injected that into the topic. I could care less about any beel; but If clan x,y and z don't agree well we could easily do a referendum and we know the vast majority of ppl would support gooni isu taag. Like i said in my previous post, you PPL can't bare the fact that somaliland was independent before somalia and is pushing to regain it's sovereignty. Certain clans don't define international borders, unfortunately we live in a post colonial world. If somalilands previous borders only included isaaq inhabited land than that's where somaliland would enforce it's policies. Horta Fix up you're house mate, we're fine the way we are.
Ok lets make it this way so that we are all happy. The dlulbahante and gedobursi and other pro unity clans join Somalia. The remaining are free to form their own state
Re: What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:35 pm
by KingWaslawi
Jamal
Majority of Gadabursi and Dhulos and of course Warsengelis are pro Somaliland pro independence, referendums would finish the job but we all know that's why DFS is afraid of it.
Re: What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:38 pm
by jamal859
KingWaslawi wrote:Jamal
Majority of Gadabursi and Dhulos and of course Warsengelis are pro Somaliland pro independence, referendums would finish the job but we all know that's why DFS is afraid of it.
I hope you're joking. Dhulus are the most pro somali guys I know
Re: What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:44 pm
by Methylamine
burcaawi14 wrote:jamal859 wrote:burcaawi14 wrote:Fok xamar! How about that. Monopoly? Worried? About you guys? You guys have the whole world picking apart the south meanwhile you "strongly oppose disunity ".
The problem is ppl like you who never did and never will see somaliland as a country that unified with another country. Instead you subtly use words like "secede", to undermined our sovereignty and our right to regain independence
I don't support the tribal government in xamar in any way. I'm a Somali nationalist as I said before.
Let me use your language then, Only the isaaq are calling for independence, so that already undermines your credibility and you aren't any different from the tribalists down south who you criticize.
It goes against my intelligence to stoop so low as to support any qaabil.
There's a difference. I support somalilands right to regain it's independence and that's completely political, I said nothing about clans. You're the one who injected that into the topic. I could care less about any beel; but If clan x,y and z don't agree well we could easily do a referendum and we know the vast majority of ppl would support gooni isu taag. Like i said in my previous post, you PPL can't bare the fact that somaliland was independent before somalia and is pushing to regain it's sovereignty. Certain clans don't define international borders, unfortunately we live in a post colonial world. If somalilands previous borders only included isaaq inhabited land than that's where somaliland would enforce it's policies. Horta Fix up you're house mate, we're fine the way we are.

Re: What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:07 pm
by JSL3000
Why do people from xamar or somalia stay trying to bribe somaliland people.They dont get it, we are not influenced by the Italian mafia keep your bribes and false promises were good the way it is now.
Re: What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:09 pm
by JSL3000
Yes, let the UN do referendum when there ready, until then let's keep the status quo and fak xamar

Re: What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:12 pm
by JSL3000
Minorities will be minorities at the end of day point blank.
Re: What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:18 pm
by JSL3000
That faqash method won't work to divide somaliland into isaaq and non isaaq divisions that method to distablize somaliland didnt even work for afweyne or somalia it will always backfired.
Re: What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:41 am
by Rambie
Not even a secular government with 0% tribal affilations
will make SL come back to Somalia.
Re: What if we had nationalist government in Xamar. Would you guys change your mind?
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:35 am
by LiquidHYDROGEN
Lol I'm a Somaliweynist and even I don't want anything to do with Xamar. It is the seat of corruption, tribalism and assassination. Any hope of unity in the future will hinge on moving the capital to Hargeisa and the north having more political autonomy.