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HELP: Need to know about an unknown group in Somalia

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Does anyone know much or anything about the 'Barawa' or 'Barawenese'? Google doesn't have that much info on them tbh...
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Re: HELP: Need to know about an unknown group in Somalia

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What would you like to know?
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Re: HELP: Need to know about an unknown group in Somalia

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They are not unknown, perhaps only to you.

Barawanis are a group of people mostly living in the coast of brava. They divide into two subclans. Tunni and Hatimi. The tunnis politically belong to the Digil and Mirifle. And the Hatimis belong to the .5 which means they are a minority. The Tunnis tend to have the ordinary Somali look whilst the Hatimi are light skinned.

Their origin is disputed, most people say they are of Arabic/Persian origin whilst other say Portuguese.
I can neither confirm or deny on this part.
It's agreed though that they have a foreign ancestry do due to their distinctive difference in appearance compared to the average Somali, light skinned, light eyes ( sometimes green) might look Arab, Indian, or light skinned with Bantu features.

They speak a language called af barawe, which is similar to Swahili.
Hope you enjoyed your crash course.
GAMES, feel free to correct, or add I'm sure I've missed out or wrote something wrong.
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Re: HELP: Need to know about an unknown group in Somalia

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Susu000 wrote:They are not unknown, perhaps only to you.

Barawanis are a group of people mostly living in the coast of brava. They divide into two subclans. Tunni and Hatimi. The tunnis politically belong to the Digil and Mirifle. And the Hatimis belong to the .5 which means they are a minority. The Tunnis tend to have the ordinary Somali look whilst the Hatimi are light skinned.

Their origin is disputed, most people say they are of Arabic/Persian origin whilst other say Portuguese.
I can neither confirm or deny on this part.
It's agreed though that they have a foreign ancestry do due to their distinctive difference in appearance compared to the average Somali, light skinned, light eyes ( sometimes green) might look Arab, Indian, or light skinned with Bantu features.

They speak a language called af barawe, which is similar to Swahili.
Hope you enjoyed your crash course.
GAMES, feel free to correct, or add I'm sure I've missed out or wrote something wrong.
Well, a lot of Somalis I talked to don't know much about them at all...

I'm just asking because there's one Barawani girl I want to marry, but she was telling me that they're very reserved people in terms of the fact that they only marry within themselves. I wanted to know more about them and how true this is... because if her parents would be against marrying other kinds of Somalis, what luck does a "xabashi" have lol

Yeah, she was telling me she had Portugese/Yemeni blood, and going by your description she seems to be Hatimi. Tbh I'm really interested in ethnic groups in the horn of africa and stuff, so if you guys have any links were I can learn more about them it would great.
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al7abashi wrote:
Susu000 wrote:They are not unknown, perhaps only to you.

Barawanis are a group of people mostly living in the coast of brava. They divide into two subclans. Tunni and Hatimi. The tunnis politically belong to the Digil and Mirifle. And the Hatimis belong to the .5 which means they are a minority. The Tunnis tend to have the ordinary Somali look whilst the Hatimi are light skinned.

Their origin is disputed, most people say they are of Arabic/Persian origin whilst other say Portuguese.
I can neither confirm or deny on this part.
It's agreed though that they have a foreign ancestry do due to their distinctive difference in appearance compared to the average Somali, light skinned, light eyes ( sometimes green) might look Arab, Indian, or light skinned with Bantu features.

They speak a language called af barawe, which is similar to Swahili.
Hope you enjoyed your crash course.
GAMES, feel free to correct, or add I'm sure I've missed out or wrote something wrong.
Well, a lot of Somalis I talked to don't know much about them at all...

I'm just asking because there's one Barawani girl I want to marry, but she was telling me that they're very reserved people in terms of the fact that they only marry within themselves. I wanted to know more about them and how true this is... because if her parents would be against marrying other kinds of Somalis, what luck does a "xabashi" have lol

Yeah, she was telling me she had Portugese/Yemeni blood, and going by your description she seems to be Hatimi. Tbh I'm really interested in ethnic groups in the horn of africa and stuff, so if you guys have any links were I can learn more about them it would great.
Xabashis are a description Somalis use to describe Bantus and Ethiopians, as long as your not either one then you shouldn't have a problem approaching and asking for her hand in marriage.
She is right to a certain extent that they tend to marry within each other, same goes for the light skinned Somalis called reer xamar. Trust me I know my mum is one, but she married my father who is a "regular" Somali.

Those traditions and customs are old and Somalis tend to intermarry a lot more than before. Therefor as long as you are a noble man I foresee no reason why you shouldn't be able to marry her. If they say no just because your not their kind, then that family is uncivilized and means your only dodging a bullet.
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al7abashi wrote:Does anyone know much or anything about the 'Barawa' or 'Barawenese'? Google doesn't have that much info on them tbh...
Salaam. I belong to the Hatimi tribe but I am also part reer xamar and barawani.
First of all, it depends on what qabil you are from or what you look like. This does not mean we are racist but we like to keep within ourselves to hold our distinctive appearance. Any person would surely want to look like their ancestors/original race. With that being said, give it a try bro, you never know.

Any questions, ask a Hatimi like myself instead of risking to acquire false info.

Our tribe are said to descend from Hatim Al-Tai RA, a Sahabba of the prophet SAW,
God knows best.
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Susu000 wrote:
al7abashi wrote:
Susu000 wrote:They are not unknown, perhaps only to you.

Barawanis are a group of people mostly living in the coast of brava. They divide into two subclans. Tunni and Hatimi. The tunnis politically belong to the Digil and Mirifle. And the Hatimis belong to the .5 which means they are a minority. The Tunnis tend to have the ordinary Somali look whilst the Hatimi are light skinned.

Their origin is disputed, most people say they are of Arabic/Persian origin whilst other say Portuguese.
I can neither confirm or deny on this part.
It's agreed though that they have a foreign ancestry do due to their distinctive difference in appearance compared to the average Somali, light skinned, light eyes ( sometimes green) might look Arab, Indian, or light skinned with Bantu features.

They speak a language called af barawe, which is similar to Swahili.
Hope you enjoyed your crash course.
GAMES, feel free to correct, or add I'm sure I've missed out or wrote something wrong.
Well, a lot of Somalis I talked to don't know much about them at all...

I'm just asking because there's one Barawani girl I want to marry, but she was telling me that they're very reserved people in terms of the fact that they only marry within themselves. I wanted to know more about them and how true this is... because if her parents would be against marrying other kinds of Somalis, what luck does a "xabashi" have lol

Yeah, she was telling me she had Portugese/Yemeni blood, and going by your description she seems to be Hatimi. Tbh I'm really interested in ethnic groups in the horn of africa and stuff, so if you guys have any links were I can learn more about them it would great.
Xabashis are a description Somalis use to describe Bantus and Ethiopians, as long as your not either one then you shouldn't have a problem approaching and asking for her hand in marriage.
She is right to a certain extent that they tend to marry within each other, same goes for the light skinned Somalis called reer xamar. Trust me I know my mum is one, but she married my father who is a "regular" Somali.

Those traditions and customs are old and Somalis tend to intermarry a lot more than before. Therefor as long as you are a noble man I foresee no reason why you shouldn't be able to marry her. If they say no just because your not their kind, then that family is uncivilized and means your only dodging a bullet.
That's the thing.... I am Ethiopian. Big problem, right? I do have noble blood that I could describe here, but there's no use lol
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Re: HELP: Need to know about an unknown group in Somalia

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Iambsa wrote:
al7abashi wrote:Does anyone know much or anything about the 'Barawa' or 'Barawenese'? Google doesn't have that much info on them tbh...
Salaam. I belong to the Hatimi tribe but I am also part reer xamar and barawani.
First of all, it depends on what qabil you are from or what you look like. This does not mean we are racist but we like to keep within ourselves to hold our distinctive appearance. Any person would surely want to look like their ancestors/original race. With that being said, give it a try bro, you never know.

Any questions, ask a Hatimi like myself instead of risking to acquire false info.

Our tribe are said to descend from Hatim Al-Tai RA, a Sahabba of the prophet SAW,
God knows best.
Wa alaykum salaam. I'm not Somali at all so yeah.... I'm not dark but im not light skin lol but every female in my family could pass as a barawani/yemeni/egyptian.

Your tribe being descendants of a Sahabi is interesting, on my mother's side she's descendant from a Sahabi that migrated to Abyssinia at the time of the Prophet.
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al7abashi wrote:
Iambsa wrote:
al7abashi wrote:Does anyone know much or anything about the 'Barawa' or 'Barawenese'? Google doesn't have that much info on them tbh...
Salaam. I belong to the Hatimi tribe but I am also part reer xamar and barawani.
First of all, it depends on what qabil you are from or what you look like. This does not mean we are racist but we like to keep within ourselves to hold our distinctive appearance. Any person would surely want to look like their ancestors/original race. With that being said, give it a try bro, you never know.

Any questions, ask a Hatimi like myself instead of risking to acquire false info.

Our tribe are said to descend from Hatim Al-Tai RA, a Sahabba of the prophet SAW,
God knows best.
Wa alaykum salaam. I'm not Somali at all so yeah.... I'm not dark but im not light skin lol but every female in my family could pass as a barawani/yemeni/egyptian.

Your tribe being descendants of a Sahabi is interesting, on my mother's side she's descendant from a Sahabi that migrated to Abyssinia at the time of the Prophet.
If you are Ethiopian then your chances are not good.

I'm sorry
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They have bad hygiene.
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barawanis are alcoholics and they use heavy drugs too. stay from these lowlife skunks.
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I believe the Somali Brawani community are the descendants of the Muslims who were evicted from Iberia and Andulus during the Spanish Inquisition. Their arrival of the Somali coast coincides with the timeline that the Spanish Inquisition has taken place: 15th century.
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gegiroor wrote:I believe the Somali Brawani community are the descendants of the Muslims who were evicted from Iberia and Andulus during the Spanish Inquisition. Their arrival of the Somali coast coincides with the timeline that the Spanish Inquisition has taken place: 15th century.
Do you have any links or anything for that? Never heard that before
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al7abashi wrote:
gegiroor wrote:I believe the Somali Brawani community are the descendants of the Muslims who were evicted from Iberia and Andulus during the Spanish Inquisition. Their arrival of the Somali coast coincides with the timeline that the Spanish Inquisition has taken place: 15th century.
Do you have any links or anything for that? Never heard that before
Muslim migration
Many Arab and Persian families would call the Ajuran realm their home.

The late 15th and 17th centuries saw the arrival of Muslim families from Arabia, Persia, India and Spain to the Ajuran Empire, the majority of whom settled in the coastal provinces. Some migrated because of the instability in their respective regions,[34] as was the case with the Hadhrami families from the Yemen and the Muslims from Spain fleeing the Inquisition
.[35] Others came to conduct business or for religious purposes. Due to their strong tradition in religious learning, the new Muslim communities also enjoyed high status among the Somali ruling elite and commoners,[36] and were frequently employed as religious advisers or received administrative positions, or served in the Ajuran army as soldiers and commanders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajuran_Sultanate
http://www.schoolebooklibrary.info/arti ... aan_Empire
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