Our ancestors failed us by not having a cushitic expansion!

[Hararboy]

Bantus came from a small area in cameroon and within a few thousand years, they conquered most of subsaharan Africa and now they enjoy the fruits of their ancestors labour. Bantui people now number close to 500 million and all have a special connection to each other and as a result, bantu culture is the most popular culture in Africa. They are the face of Africa. The bantu region is reknown for their immense resources and beauty. Bantus will always rich due to this fact. If Bantus managed their resources, they will be the riches region in Africa no doubt.

Our lazy cushitic ancestors were probably too busy eating chaat to expand their territories, they were content with their dust bowl ,and now their descendants live in one of the most poorest and resourceless areas of Africa. I am dissapointed in our ancestors, could you just imagine if our noble people had the whole of East and central Africa to ourselves, just like the bantus of today. We wouldnt be starving and with economic cooperation between the cushitic nations, we would be one of the richest regions in Africa. And Im a certain that our region would have been developed sooner than these bantus since for most of our history, the cushitic people (Axum, Adal Sultunate, etc) rivalled the development of the Arab world. Its the reason racist whites of the 19th century regarded us as semi civilised people.

.. I have to admit, the Bantus have won, the Cushites lost. We are the losers of Africa. We are doomed to have a bantu overlord for an eternity due to their immense population and resources and our lack of resources and small population.

[Otherbrother]

We failed because we don't farm. Even in the Jubba's and Shabelle bantu's and mushunguli are farming. People don't understand, herding is bullshit. Farming or at least a mix agro-pastoralism.

We have huge land, and if we get to the farming and start reversing desertification we can increase our population by large amounts. But no. Somalis would rather herd geel. Afar would rather stay in that desert depression. Oromo would rather steal highlands and not farm.

[GAMES]

LooL how do you know what happened 'few thousand years ago'? Its not like you were alive or there were all these fancy new inventions we have now. 1,000 yrs ago, there was no Somalia or east Africa.

You won't be be around in 100yrs anyway, so stop worrying about Bantus and all that crap,...bcuz they certainly aren't worrying about u.

And if u are the religious type, u can chalk it up to Allah's plan.

[Hararboy]

LooL how do you know what happened 'few thousand years ago'? Its not like you were alive or there were all these fancy new inventions we have now. 1,000 yrs ago, there was no Somalia or east Africa.

You won't be be around in 100yrs anyway, so stop worrying about Bantus and all that crap,...bcuz they certainly aren't worrying about u.

And if u are the religious type, u can chalk it up to Allah's plan.

lol...Thats why I mention the cushitic race in this thread, I didnt even mention Somalis. I know Somalia didnt exist then. And the Bantu expansion is well documented.

[GAMES]

Btw, Africa's population is 1.1 billion. Even if you add East Africa, North Africa, the Cadaans in South Africa, the Indians, the Chinese, the Shaanshis, Barawaanis, it wouldn't be more than 300 million.

Bantus are the majority in Africa....by far.

[Itrah]

We failed because we don't farm. Even in the Jubba's and Shabelle bantu's and mushunguli are farming. People don't understand, herding is bullshit. Farming or at least a mix agro-pastoralism.

We have huge land, and if we get to the farming and start reversing desertification we can increase our population by large amounts. But no. Somalis would rather herd geel. Afar would rather stay in that desert depression. Oromo would rather steal highlands and not farm.

Oromos are farmers and their population is pretty big (26 million)...

[Sophisticate]

Another defeatist thread. Yawn. Somalia is full of resources and there are a significant amount number of Hamtic people so no one is dying out. Moreover, I can't stand whiners and people that overstate problems. Fact - Somalis are business savy. They aren't acquiescent like ajnabis. They have an indomitable spirit but their problem is divisiveness and poor leadership. That's all.

[Renis]

Another defeatist thread. Yawn. Somalia is full of resources and there are a significant amount number of Hamtic people so no one is dying out. Moreover, I can't stand whiners and people that overstate problems. Fact - Somalis are business savy. They aren't acquiescent like ajnabis. They have an indomitable spirit but their problem is divisiveness and poor leadership. That's all.

Bananas don't count... please tell me you don't believe those waryaas that claim that "we got durrrrrrr oil" bullshit. And If we did have oil then it probably dried out or Al Shabab will take control over it.

[AwRastaale]

First and foremost our guest Hararboy is from Harar and it's true his ancestors conquered the least land of any ethnic in Africa.

Harar is the size of my bedroom.

Somalis conquered the most land of any tribe/ethnic in Africa including the longest coastline but they failed to convert that into power.

Hararis are no Cushitic either but Habesha.

Adaris, Iroba, Gurage, Tigrais, Amhara, Kebessa or Bhr Tigringya are Habesha along with few hybrids in Eritrea.

Our Adari friends are small and harmless. We welcome them with open arms but their blood is Habeshi as is their language.

The Cush are the Oromo, Somali, Afar, Saho, Beja, and Sidamo.

All these people share languages that sprung out from the same roots and the bases of all aaf or afaan remains the same. There is no such thing as Aaf or Afaan Adari unlike Afaan Oromoo, Af-Soomaliiga, Afaan Sidamo, Afka Saho, Qafar Af (Afar language), Ta Badawi (Beja).

Take for example counting,
Labo/laba/lama (Somali) - 2
Lama (Oromo)
Lama (Saho)

Sadex (Somali) - 3
Sadi (Oromo)
Adex (Saho), they just don't pronounce the 's'

Afar (Somali) - 4
Afur (Oromo)
Afar (Saho)

Shan (Somali) - 5
Shan (Oromo)
here Saho differ


Lix (Somali) - 6
Jaya (Oromo) - Oromo differ
Lix (Saho)

7 they all differ with Oromo and Somali being close (totoba and torba respectively).

8, Somali and Oromo are the same (Sided and saddeet)

9, they are all the same Sagal

10--Somali and Saho are same with slight pronunciation difference, toban (Somali), taman (Saho)...Oromo say ku dhan, which means complete in Somali therefore the counting is complete from 0-10 or double digit begins.

Afar is the closest of them to Somali and Afar is the bridge between Saho and Somali. Borana/Maay are the bridge between Somali and mainstream Afaan Oromo. Afaan Oromo is almost same as Afaan Sidaamo.


And so on...

[Renis]

Fact - Somalis are business savy. They aren't acquiescent like ajnabis. They have an indomitable spirit but their problem is divisiveness and poor leadership. That's all.

There is no proof we're "business savvy", every group of people has entrepreneurs. The sad truth is most Somalis are welfare losers.

[Sophisticate]

Another defeatist thread. Yawn. Somalia is full of resources and there are a significant amount number of Hamtic people so no one is dying out. Moreover, I can't stand whiners and people that overstate problems. Fact - Somalis are business savy. They aren't acquiescent like ajnabis. They have an indomitable spirit but their problem is divisiveness and poor leadership. That's all.

Bananas don't count... please tell me you don't believe those waryaas that claim that "we got durrrrrrr oil" bullshit. And If we did have oil then it probably dried out or Al Shabab will take control over it.

It's well documented that there are precious stones / minerals and an enviable coast line (stating the obvious here). In any case you are doing nothing more than commiserating with the OP so I can't help you.

[Renis]

It's well documented that there are precious stones / minerals and an enviable coast line (stating the obvious here). In any case you are doing nothing more than commiserating with the OP so I can't help you.

Every country has some precious stones and minerals, unless your contry has tonnes of diamonds, gold, etc then theres nothing to brag about.

My replies aren't even about OP's post. I DO NOT think Somalia's problem is our country is too small, but it's that our people are borderline retarded, lazy, sexist (we're one of the only countries were most girls aged 10-15 are circumcised, while Egypt, Ethiopia, and Sudan have dramatically decreased their FGM), and we don't have the basic tax/bill system Rome had 1700 years ago. I'm sick and tired of Somalis scrounging in Europe. We need to build up our own country instead of .........

[Hararboy]

First and foremost our guest Hararboy is from Harar and it's true his ancestors conquered the least land of any ethnic in Africa.

Harar is the size of my bedroom.

Somalis conquered the most land of any tribe/ethnic in Africa including the longest coastline but they failed to convert that into power.

Hararis are no Cushitic either but Habesha.

Adaris, Iroba, Gurage, Tigrais, Amhara, Kebessa or Bhr Tigringya are Habesha along with few hybrids in Eritrea.

Our Adari friends are small and harmless. We welcome them with open arms but their blood is Habeshi as is their language.

The Cush are the Oromo, Somali, Afar, Saho, Beja, and Sidamo.

All these people share languages that sprung out from the same roots and the bases of all aaf or afaan remains the same. There is no such thing as Aaf or Afaan Adari.

Lol...Habeshas are cushitic beit a bit of semitic blood from a few thousand years ago. The ignornance in your statement is baffling. You make your ancestors roll in their graves. Harar was a city in eastern Ethiopian. The Aderes are a mixture of many different people from Somalia, Oromia, Amhara, Tigray to even persia and Turkey. I have Somali and Turkish ancestry. Im not a habesha. Hararis, even thoses of the habesha extraction has always been friendly to all cushitic people if they were muslim. Your poets used to sing about city, how gloriousmit was. The intellectual and busniness culture in Harar was what brought many people together. Im proud of my ancestry and my history. My people were very learned and they were the richest people in the horn. And we managed to stay united inspite of our diversity, thats something somalis need to take note. Im am part Somali and a Hararian.


Look at this glorious diversity.

[AwRastaale]

Hararboy,

I'm not disrespecting but please be proud Habesha.

The Cushitic group is based on language origins rather than common ancestral father as per say. The Adari language is classed under Semitic-Habesha or southern Semitic along with those much larger Habesha.

I understand you want to associate yourself with the Cushitic group for religious reasons but everyone knows that Adaris are Habesha. Their language sounds more like Hebrew than anything in Africa.

I reject that Adaris are Cushitic. Maybe you can fool few Somalis that never travelled outside their village by exploiting the Muslim card but I know Adari sounds more like Hebrew than Cushitic languages. Cushitic is language grouping same as Nilotic and Bantu. Neither of them are about parental ancestry but pure linguistic groupings. It doesn't matter if your ancestry is Somali or Turkish, if your native tongue is Adari, you're classified by your tongue and you belong in the southern Semitic Habesha group. You have to adopt Somali, Saho, Afar or Oromo

Bantu is a major branch of the Niger-Congo language family spoken by most populations in Africa.

I know few words and myself I have lived in Harar briefly

I'm from the Somali Region btw.

Iroba, Gurage, Tigrai, Kebessa and Adaris are same group.

We surround Harar but it remains Habesha Muslim city.

They have to remain united because they are small and inhabit only one city and two or three villages outside the walls. Anyone can remain united inside any wall.

[Hararboy]

Hararboy,

I'm not disrespecting but please be proud Habesha.

The Cushitic group is based on language origins rather than common ancestral father as per say. The Adari language is classed under Semitic-Habesha or southern Semitic along with those much larger Habesha.

I understand you want to associate yourself with the Cushitic group for religious reasons but everyone knows that Adaris are Habesha. Their language sounds more like Hebrew than anything in Africa.

I reject that Adaris are Cushitic. Maybe you can fool few Somalis that never travelled outside their village by exploiting the Muslim card but I know Adari sounds more like Hebrew than Cushitic languages. Cushitic is language grouping same as Nilotic and Bantu. Neither of them are about parental ancestry but pure linguistic groupings. It doesn't matter if your ancestry is Somali or Turkish, if your native tongue is Adari, you're classified by your tongue and you belong in the southern Semitic Habesha group. You have to adopt Somali, Saho, Afar or Oromo

Bantu is a major branch of the Niger-Congo language family spoken by most populations in Africa.

I know few words and myself I have lived in Harar briefly

I'm from the Somali Region btw.

Iroba, Gurage, Tigrai, Kebessa and Adaris are same group.

We surround Harar but it remains Habesha Muslim city.

They have to remain united because they are small and inhabit only one city and two or three villages outside the walls. Anyone can remain united inside any wall.

Man stup, We are not Habesha. Habesha has nothing to do with us. Most Haderes would feel insulted if they were associated with those scum