Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
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Mahamoud81
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Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
Hello everyone.
This is a question I've been pondering for sometime. When you look at other stable African countries you see there is a large degree of ethnic homogeneity in these nations. While in Somalia we have many different ethnic groups. There is Isaaq, Hawiye, Darod, Rahanweyn, Bajuun, bantu, cadcad, and many others. Is this why centralism as a style of government will never work in the country? Federalism seems to be the best thing we have so far. It is a system that is suitable to country with many different ethnic groups like in India. But how relevant should a hypothetical national government be if a stable federalist agenda is pursued? Should it only be involved in national defense and foreign policy and leave the rest of the autonomous states to figure out their own local laws, trade deals, imports/exports, and everything else a nation is responsible for?
This is a question I've been pondering for sometime. When you look at other stable African countries you see there is a large degree of ethnic homogeneity in these nations. While in Somalia we have many different ethnic groups. There is Isaaq, Hawiye, Darod, Rahanweyn, Bajuun, bantu, cadcad, and many others. Is this why centralism as a style of government will never work in the country? Federalism seems to be the best thing we have so far. It is a system that is suitable to country with many different ethnic groups like in India. But how relevant should a hypothetical national government be if a stable federalist agenda is pursued? Should it only be involved in national defense and foreign policy and leave the rest of the autonomous states to figure out their own local laws, trade deals, imports/exports, and everything else a nation is responsible for?
Re: Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
Federalism 101
Only National Defence and Foreign Policy will be the responsibility of the Federal Gov.
Each Region Keeps its Resources,revenues etc and only use those revenues to invest in their regions etc unless resource sharing agreement is enacted.this enables local consumption of the resources,Bosaso ,hargeysa,mogadishu,baydhabo and kismayo will keep their revenues.
Foreign aid will be shared on the basis which is agreed upon.Laakin what i dont understand is why somalis are interested only to invest in Mogadihus,is it because it is where the Mega economic activity is taking place.
Only National Defence and Foreign Policy will be the responsibility of the Federal Gov.
Each Region Keeps its Resources,revenues etc and only use those revenues to invest in their regions etc unless resource sharing agreement is enacted.this enables local consumption of the resources,Bosaso ,hargeysa,mogadishu,baydhabo and kismayo will keep their revenues.
Foreign aid will be shared on the basis which is agreed upon.Laakin what i dont understand is why somalis are interested only to invest in Mogadihus,is it because it is where the Mega economic activity is taking place.
Re: Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
There is no Isaaq in Koonfuria!
Italia-Somalia experienced slavery, they need a MASTER as a consequence of denying their history. Other enslaved Nations have accepted and plotted a course out of slave mentality.
Once dependency is created it like a crack pipe.
Forever dependent on foreign erected strategies.
Italia-Somalia experienced slavery, they need a MASTER as a consequence of denying their history. Other enslaved Nations have accepted and plotted a course out of slave mentality.
Once dependency is created it like a crack pipe.
Re: Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
wasn't Somalia once on of the strongest most stable countries in the whole of Africa and lots of Asian & American countries?Arcturus wrote:There is no Isaaq in Koonfuria!
Italia-Somalia experienced slavery, they need a MASTER as a consequence of denying their history. Other enslaved Nations have accepted and plotted a course out of slave mentality.
Once dependency is created it like a crack pipe.
Forever dependent on foreign erected strategies.
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Re: Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
Somali politics is a pissing contest . Somalia will go federal , there is no doubt about it and once Somaliland realises that as a state they can piss farther than the rest they'll be alright . Nothing to really be shocked about , for 25 yrs these youngsters have been told their enemy is Somalia which is obstructing their development and unwilling to let them go their separate way , that's why they are the way they are .
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Re: Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
The Somali people have been ravaged by man-made and natural--The Wrath Of God--calamities. I have maintained that this is a direct result of the widespread torture and genital mutilation of female and male children.
Can there be lasting peace while this insanity is perpetuated?
PLEASE Protect Your Children!
Can there be lasting peace while this insanity is perpetuated?
PLEASE Protect Your Children!
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Re: Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
If I could save anyone , I would recommend we save you ^. Of your 554 posts here on this board all but a few talk about genitals .
Re: Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
Remind me when Somalia was anything other then a slave nation?inaXasan wrote:wasn't Somalia once on of the strongest most stable countries in the whole of Africa and lots of Asian & American countries?Arcturus wrote:There is no Isaaq in Koonfuria!
Italia-Somalia experienced slavery, they need a MASTER as a consequence of denying their history. Other enslaved Nations have accepted and plotted a course out of slave mentality.
Once dependency is created it like a crack pipe.
Forever dependent on foreign erected strategies.
Is it by anychance when somaliland was involved?
Any other time outside 1960-1991?
Somalia will always be nothing unless others hold its hand.
Re: Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
Actually Somalia has always been a homogeneous society. One language, ethnicity, culture and religion.
Re: Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
[quote="GAMES"]Actually Somalia has always been a homogeneous society. One language, ethnicity, culture and religion.[/quote]
THANK YOU. I was scrolling to see if someone had mentioned this already..
The guy said "various ethnic groups like Isaaq, Hawiye, darood"
The fuck?
THANK YOU. I was scrolling to see if someone had mentioned this already..
The guy said "various ethnic groups like Isaaq, Hawiye, darood"
The fuck?
Re: Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
I think he confused Qabiil with ethnicity.Susu000 wrote:THANK YOU. I was scrolling to see if someone had mentioned this already..GAMES wrote:Actually Somalia has always been a homogeneous society. One language, ethnicity, culture and religion.
The guy said "various ethnic groups like Isaaq, Hawiye, darood"
The fuck?
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Re: Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
Warya I couldn't really understand why these youngin' Isaaq kids had so much hatred for anything 'Somalia', while the old guys like you had no ills towards other Somalis. Its the constant Somalia this and that they grew up. Its really sad.SahanGalbeed wrote:Somali politics is a pissing contest . Somalia will go federal , there is no doubt about it and once Somaliland realises that as a state they can piss farther than the rest they'll be alright . Nothing to really be shocked about , for 25 yrs these youngsters have been told their enemy is Somalia which is obstructing their development and unwilling to let them go their separate way , that's why they are the way they are .
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Re: Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
There is also the diaspora factor . It's a decuplating {x10} force .The further away you're from the action , the hotter tempered one must appear to compensate for the distance that sets him apart
I support freedom of expression but if every one would get its hands on the steering wheel on a bus , no one would reach its destination .
I support freedom of expression but if every one would get its hands on the steering wheel on a bus , no one would reach its destination .
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I heard when Isaaq kids are like 6 or 7yrs old, they are taken to that Taalo in the middle of Hargeisa with the Somalia airplane on it. Than they are taught to hate.
LooL the lil fuckers than pick up small dhagax's and throw it at the plane while cursing Somalis, Faqash and Wanlaweyns for what happened to them.
LooL they are indoctrinated from a very young age. Ayagoo yar yar baa cuqdad lagu abuuray.
Walaahi one of my Isaaq friends told me this.

LooL the lil fuckers than pick up small dhagax's and throw it at the plane while cursing Somalis, Faqash and Wanlaweyns for what happened to them.
LooL they are indoctrinated from a very young age. Ayagoo yar yar baa cuqdad lagu abuuray.
Walaahi one of my Isaaq friends told me this.
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Re: Can Somalia's perpetual woes be explained by its vast ethnic diversity...
The fact to the matter is , that guy that is 25 yrs old in Somaliland has never had any interaction with somalia . None !
I have been waiting for the day when Somalia gets its act together . May Allah make it sooner than later , one should not interpret nor equate the sobriety of my comments with fairy tales
I have been waiting for the day when Somalia gets its act together . May Allah make it sooner than later , one should not interpret nor equate the sobriety of my comments with fairy tales
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