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Almost every single minute Snet discuss politics and tribalism. Nothing else.

You need to give politics and qabyalaad a break especially when you suck at those two topics.

It is not good for your wellbeing to be in the same place to discuss the same subject 24/7.

Do you not have hobbies? Interests? Areas of expertise? Things you desire to learn?

Why not explore subjects out off politics.

Just look at Snet categories and view topics under each.

This trend is not good for the Somali people regardless of your qabyalaad views.

Marka ka nasta. Who gives a fcuk which habar chased which habar.

All you Somali fkers couldn't have studied political science or qabyalaad science. Where the fk are the other academias? Why not they offer some of their knowledge to these misguided snet fadhi ku dirir kids?

Why is this place so dark and ignorant?

We should have tech reviews. Advice on travelling to and from the Horn. Any business project that may need or require investors/buyers.

Snet should be more like a community instead you lot became enemies to unbelievable levels based on fadhi ku dirir 24/7.

My girl Yurub Geenyo - Si Baan Unuglaa baryaba Wah wah wah

Why don't you practice what you preach? 99.9% of your posts are in the Politics section.

Ina xasan beat me to it

Not about tribes tho.

Mostly about Ethiopia and Ethiopian issues.

Also I am open to other topics apart from naago issues including relations/gossip/calacaal

Some of you spend hours worth of fadhi ku dirir str8 up.

Time for a change.

Ok i will start by suggesting a change of diet for somalis.
bariis and basto are not very nutritious and not native,
we import them..

Why dont we change to root crops and beans.

Fr example Somaliland has about 50,000 hectares of mostly Sorghum grain,
yield is about 70,000 tonnes and at the indian level of consumption of 160kg per person per year
thats less than 450,000 people..
If we plant sweet potatoes on that land we can feed over 3 million people from the same land if the yield is the world average.

ofcourse this is all hypothetical, and sweet potatoes may not grow in all the soils,
but still think of the possibilities.

and the nutrition is much better, higher protien levels, more minerals and vitamins.
the poorest people in SL can afford meat once a week these days,
if they switch from rice to sweet potatoes, they will improve their health, have more energy and not feel hunger all while eathing meat once a week.

gurey25 wrote:Ok i will start by suggesting a change of diet for somalis.
bariis and basto are not very nutritious and not native,
we import them..

Why dont we change to root crops and beans.

Fr example Somaliland has about 50,000 hectares of mostly Sorghum grain,
yield is about 70,000 tonnes and at the indian level of consumption of 160kg per person per year
thats less than 450,000 people..
If we plant sweet potatoes on that land we can feed over 3 million people from the same land if the yield is the world average.

ofcourse this is all hypothetical, and sweet potatoes may not grow in all the soils,
but still think of the possibilities.

and the nutrition is much better, higher protien levels, more minerals and vitamins.
the poorest people in SL can afford meat once a week these days,
if they switch from rice to sweet potatoes, they will improve their health, have more energy and not feel hunger all while eathing meat once a week.

Standing ovation.

Gurey,

Nice one. What about teff? I heard it needs less water and is now regarded as one of the best grains. As well as people (poppy seeds) animals can enjoy the grass. Therefore you kill two birds with one stone.

I reckon we should experiment some in Sanaag, Gabiley and the Togdheer savanna. It needs very minimal water. It grows super fast. You need a crop with quick turn around to mass feed the people and animals.

I'm considering trying some in Sabawanaag. I have never farmed but currently I'm searching for Australian farmers in my state where I can volunteer on weekends to learn few tricks.



Recommend reading: http://www.aginnovators.org.au/news/glu ... down-under

Everything that's been discussed in this thread I already find extremely boring.

Although I don't care for growing sweet potatoes, it does beat seeing the typical qabyaalad threads.

If you stopped trolling then there would be more more quality discussions.


Gurey, abti, what we are lacking is agricultural know how and direction. Before getting into sorghum or potatoes why not farm khat? After all, it is drains our economy of hard currency. I am sure it can grow in the northern highlands

AbdiWahab252 wrote:If you stopped trolling then there would be more more quality discussions.


Gurey, abti, what we are lacking is agricultural know how and direction. Before getting into sorghum or potatoes why not farm khat? After all, it is drains our economy of hard currency. I am sure it can grow in the northern highlands

I dont want us to become another yemen,
all that good land devoted to qat..
they grew all their qat worth $1.2billion on the market , while they imported most of their food.
granted food imports are allot cheaper than qat, but why support the filthy habit in the first place.

technically Somaliland can do the same, grow all their qat, and import all the food,
the gabiley, borame amoud, hargiesa and wajale and shiekh, including ceerigabo can grow qat..

but we need to eliminate qat.

I had a grand idea to eliminate qat, but yemens implosion spoiled the idea...

My approach was to not fight the market, but flow with the market, attempts at prohibition will simply mean greater profits
and even more qat consumption, and break down of law and order..

Education attemtps alone will fail...

you need a government that thinks like a gangster..
You need to get control of qat production and supply.

I suggest the government buys up as much supply as possible and then dump it in yemen and somalia.
The remaining supply that reaches the consumer will be taxed at 35% from current 17%, then more than 50% later on.

There will be not much smuggling because there is little supply, the price will be too high and people will get weaned of from it over the years.
and till that happens the government will make $200 million a year..

AwRastaale wrote:Gurey,

Nice one. What about teff? I heard it needs less water and is now regarded as one of the best grains. As well as people (poppy seeds) animals can enjoy the grass. Therefore you kill two birds with one stone.

I reckon we should experiment some in Sanaag, Gabiley and the Togdheer savanna. It needs very minimal water. It grows super fast. You need a crop with quick turn around to mass feed the people and animals.

I'm considering trying some in Sabawanaag. I have never farmed but currently I'm searching for Australian farmers in my state where I can volunteer on weekends to learn few tricks.



Recommend reading: http://www.aginnovators.org.au/news/glu ... down-under

Teff is excellent, nutrition wise it is one of the best grains, but growing it the traditional way takes to much drudging labour,
and somalis dont like hard work at all.

harvesting is not a problem, it can be mechanized and even if done by hand, its no problem,
treshing it is difficult and time consuming, but new simple machines , hand powered can solve this.

The problem is planting and weeding.
Preparing the ground for sowing and weeding is too difficult.

We need to redesign the entire process around somali mentality.
It can be done..


Why not let the animals do all the work, the weeding, ground preparation and fertilizing?

It will be messy, look disorganized, and we need to get used to dozens of plants growing along with our crops
but its doable.

Why not select a good patch of grassland, then we mob graze it with sheep, let them eat everything and shit all over the place.
You make them run up and down the patch of land, 100 hectares or so, till they trample over their manure .
Then you move them.
just before the rains you use clay seed balls like masunobo fukoaka pioneered, and broadcast them all over the place in a high density.

It rains and the teff, sourghum, pearl millet, and barley that you sow will start growing.
They will grow faster than the perrenial grasses that were already there and are regrowing on their own.
In 45-50 days you come back and harvest the teff, then 60-80 you harvest the pearl millet and the sourghum in 100 days, along with the barley.
Then you run your livestock all over the land to eat all the yummy plants, and start the cycle again.
The mix of plants prevents disease,no need to weed.

The yield will be lower than commercial farms, but potentially still good at ~900 tonnes per hectare.
low labour requirment, no fertilizer or pesticides.
and you get to feed your livestock on the same land.

gurey25 wrote: I have never farmed but currently I'm searching for Australian farmers in my state where I can volunteer on weekends to learn few tricks.

iddidnt know you were in australia?
there is zaytuna farm in NSW for permaculture, you can learn holistic management etc and its a course.
there are also several farms using keyline management, which was invented in australia,..

I have seen farms in australia that recieve less rainfall than toghdeer, forget about hargeisa, and are drought proof all year round
due to keyline management,

Somalia needs, keyline management, and holistic management and we can live off our livestock alone,
at a better living standard than today..
imagine what can be done with more..

gurey25 wrote:

gurey25 wrote: I have never farmed but currently I'm searching for Australian farmers in my state where I can volunteer on weekends to learn few tricks.

iddidnt know you were in australia?
there is zaytuna farm in NSW for permaculture, you can learn holistic management etc and its a course.
there are also several farms using keyline management, which was invented in australia,..

I have seen farms in australia that recieve less rainfall than toghdeer, forget about hargeisa, and are drought proof all year round
due to keyline management,

Somalia needs, keyline management, and holistic management and we can live off our livestock alone,
at a better living standard than today..
imagine what can be done with more..

gurey25


r u in Australia?

yeah basra I use snet like twitter.
whenever I feel the need to vomit something personal.
resigned from job last nov.
been in perth exactly 1 year next week.

gurey25 wrote:

AbdiWahab252 wrote:If you stopped trolling then there would be more more quality discussions.


Gurey, abti, what we are lacking is agricultural know how and direction. Before getting into sorghum or potatoes why not farm khat? After all, it is drains our economy of hard currency. I am sure it can grow in the northern highlands

I dont want us to become another yemen,
all that good land devoted to qat..
they grew all their qat worth $1.2billion on the market , while they imported most of their food.
granted food imports are allot cheaper than qat, but why support the filthy habit in the first place.

technically Somaliland can do the same, grow all their qat, and import all the food,
the gabiley, borame amoud, hargiesa and wajale and shiekh, including ceerigabo can grow qat..

but we need to eliminate qat.

I had a grand idea to eliminate qat, but yemens implosion spoiled the idea...

My approach was to not fight the market, but flow with the market, attempts at prohibition will simply mean greater profits
and even more qat consumption, and break down of law and order..

Education attemtps alone will fail...

you need a government that thinks like a gangster..
You need to get control of qat production and supply.

I suggest the government buys up as much supply as possible and then dump it in yemen and somalia.
The remaining supply that reaches the consumer will be taxed at 35% from current 17%, then more than 50% later on.

There will be not much smuggling because there is little supply, the price will be too high and people will get weaned of from it over the years.
and till that happens the government will make $200 million a year..

Khat also consumes a lot of water, for a country like Yemen with limited water supply it's devastating. How do you think one would go about changing Somali diet? rice and chicken has been a staple diet for hundreds of years now, you can't just unplug things like this and not expect massive discontent.