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What can Somalia learn from Rwanda?

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How was Rwanda built so quick when they had the most brutal 3-4 years of civil war in Africa, multiple genocides and over 2 million were killed in just a few months?

How did Tutsis forgive Hutus so easily after 70% of the Tutsis were wiped out from Hutu extremist?

How come there are no signs of ethnic tensions today?

Their country are progressing.
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Check out their lavish infrastructures, constructions and modern future projects on skyscrapercity site.


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1123815

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What can Somalia learn from Rwanda?
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We need a US daddy backing us. :)
PS More Hutu's died in the socalled genocide than Tutsi's.
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Rwanda is great African success and healing story.

It remains personal favourite.

It all comes down to leadership and President P. Kagame deserves much acknowledgement.

He had a vision and he knew the key to true healing in Rwanda was forgiveness, education and economic empowerment especially in IT and startup culture for the youth.

That gave the country sense of self believe and faith in the leadership.

It increased women participation, engagement and active roles in many key sectors such as peace resolutions, education and government.

Somalia believes in violence and has long way to adopt politics and policies of attitude changes.

It always wants to muscle its way and the cycle never ends.

Somalia has no hope to follow the Rwandan method.
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I was watching my friends snapchat from Dar Es Selam Tanzania waay duushay lol

Rwanda too, but under the leadership of paul kagame. A strong man but he developed the nation
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May Rwanda be prosperous. :up:
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Its a success because of the mentality of the Hutus.
They are civilized and take orders very well.
Like the Japanese and Germans.
When ordered to chop up their neighbours with machetes, they said yes sir, and went about efficiently and diligently chopping the tall trees.

It takes a special culture and mindset to do that, and with the same factors you can use it to build..

Now imagine somalis in the hutus place, imagine being ordered by the government to massacre a clan you hate, and been dreaming about killing them for years.
Do you think a somali would do it as efficiently ? no way.
They will do maybe 10% of the job, chop a few people here and there, and then go home to relax and chill, and chew
maybe have some tea, or take a nap.
If the government official shows up and demands more work, they will think " who the hell do you think you are? " and direct violence against the government for trying to force them to do things..

Somalis are cats, and you cant herd them,
while hutus, most northern europeans, japanese are sheep.
the rest are goats, trouble some but easy to put back in line requiring more effort in herding..
or horses, troublesome when wild, but when "broken" as meek as horses.

sadly the easiest way to build a modern country is when your people are sheep, or at least goats..
cats no chance.
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Gurey,

Very funny analogy but makes total sense. Cats also love to occupy the warmest place in the house without even bringing a single string unlike birds who make their nest or ants who dig holes.

There is no hope for Somalia. Wixi aminsani can entertain themselves.

here is funny pics from Rwanda. Just few months ago, 480 Rwandans converted to Islam and even converted their church. Funny pics coz most are yet to learn proper prayers but Masha Allah


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During the genocide Muslims hid a lot of Hutu and Tutsis from the opposing group. That won their hearts because most Church pastors took part in the genocide.
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gurey25 wrote:Somalis are cats, and you cant herd them,
while hutus, most northern europeans, japanese are sheep.
the rest are goats, trouble some but easy to put back in line requiring more effort in herding..
or horses, troublesome when wild, but when "broken" as meek as horses.

sadly the easiest way to build a modern country is when your people are sheep, or at least goats..
cats no chance.
Wth :lol:

At least say lions. Lions form prides and as ruthless as the shift from one leader to the other can be, once they have a strong leader prides can and do thrive. Also the lioness provides so in a way this fits.

Cats you know :down: :lol:
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It is easier to do when there are only two major groups involved.in Somalia,even the subclans within darood compete with each other,so how can you expect reconciliation between somAlis on a national scale?somalis have a million interest groups.the only Somalis who have a develops a group mentality are the Isaacs.
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AwRastaale wrote:Gurey,

Very funny analogy but makes total sense. Cats also love to occupy the warmest place in the house without even bringing a single string unlike birds who make their nest or ants who dig holes.

There is no hope for Somalia. Wixi aminsani can entertain themselves.

here is funny pics from Rwanda. Just few months ago, 480 Rwandans converted to Islam and even converted their church. Funny pics coz most are yet to learn proper prayers but Masha Allah


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During the genocide Muslims hid a lot of Hutu and Tutsis from the opposing group. That won their hearts because most Church pastors took part in the genocide.
there is always hope people change,
there are travel reports by English business travelers in 1840's Germany, they found germans to be clannish, lazy, dirty
and extremly disorganized.. They even said it must be in their nature and considered investing elsewhere because germans will never change.
Funny thing is the same story is found in 1880's Japan.
Till the 1988 olympics in Seoul , Korea the government was worried about the public behaviour of koreans,
they liked to litter , and spit in the streets.
They did not understand queues and fights happened while lining up, similiar to arabs today.
There was an intensive government program for 4 years educating the public, telling people do not shame koreans, the world is watching you.
It worked, today koreans are clean freaks, nobody spits, litters in public, and they queue quitely like British.

miracles can happen,
ive noticed similiar civilized behaviour among arabs, 10 years ago noone understood queues or lining up
today they do it grudgingly, only the older generation over 35 years do not..
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Re: What can Somalia learn from Rwanda?

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about the rawandans, mashallah
may allah continue to guide the and protect them from fitnah.
I was about to go on a tirade about salafists, but i digress.
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BVSNet wrote:
gurey25 wrote:Somalis are cats, and you cant herd them,
while hutus, most northern europeans, japanese are sheep.
the rest are goats, trouble some but easy to put back in line requiring more effort in herding..
or horses, troublesome when wild, but when "broken" as meek as horses.

sadly the easiest way to build a modern country is when your people are sheep, or at least goats..
cats no chance.
Wth :lol:

At least say lions. Lions form prides and as ruthless as the shift from one leader to the other can be, once they have a strong leader prides can and do thrive. Also the lioness provides so in a way this fits.

Cats you know :down: :lol:
No, lions combine intellience, ferocity, strength and dignity. Somalis are not cats either whom have their own quality. They're mice.
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The story of today's Rwanda makes me smile . Yesterday they even beat Ivory Coast in football
http://ghanasoccernet.com/2016-chan-hos ... ent-opener
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Re: What can Somalia learn from Rwanda?

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Estarix wrote:
BVSNet wrote:
gurey25 wrote:Somalis are cats, and you cant herd them,
while hutus, most northern europeans, japanese are sheep.
the rest are goats, trouble some but easy to put back in line requiring more effort in herding..
or horses, troublesome when wild, but when "broken" as meek as horses.

sadly the easiest way to build a modern country is when your people are sheep, or at least goats..
cats no chance.
Wth :lol:

At least say lions. Lions form prides and as ruthless as the shift from one leader to the other can be, once they have a strong leader prides can and do thrive. Also the lioness provides so in a way this fits.

Cats you know :down: :lol:
No, lions combine intellience, ferocity, strength and dignity. Somalis are not cats either whom have their own quality. They're mice.

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Good for them.
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