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All I see on this forum is him hating on the Habesha...Harari people ARE Habesha. I know many Harari people and they look nothing like Cushites/Somalis. They all have the same big eyes, light skin and curved nose that same as the Amhara, etc.
And they speak a Semitic language, very similar to Arabic.
They're just Muslim. That's it.
So HarariBoy, stop self hating yourself, be a proud Habesha. Ain't nothing wrong with being one. Consider yourself lucky, as Hawdian could only dream of having Xabashi blood flowing through his veins
Nawal9 wrote:All I see on this forum is him hating on the Habesha...Harari people ARE Habesha. I know many Harari people and they look nothing like Cushites/Somalis. They all have the same big eyes, light skin and curved nose that same as the Amhara, etc.
And they speak a Semitic language, very similar to Arabic.
They're just Muslim. That's it.
So HarariBoy, stop self hating yourself, be a proud Habesha. Ain't nothing wrong with being one. Consider yourself lucky, as Hawdian could only dream of having Xabashi blood flowing through his veins
Im not Habesha, habesha is a cultural-religious identity, its not a race. You dont have to look like a mutt to be Habesha, most habeshas are cushitic with minor semitic ancestry anyway.
And when did I say I hated the Habeshas, if you saw my previous posts, you could probably say I hate Oromos more for taking my peoples land. But even then Ive never hated anyone for no reason. Its not in my nature to hate people for reasons of ethnic xenophobia. Ill only hate people if they give me a reason to hate them.
Hararis dont consider themelselves Habesha because we are an immigrant people with diverse origins. There are Oromo Hararis, Somali hararis, Gurage Hararis, Habesha Hararis, persian Hararis, turkish harari etc. We are an amalgam of Ethiopia. We have extremely light people who could pass as Arab, we have those who look like steriotypical Habesha and we have pure cushitic hararis. Theres no one Harari look.
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Nawal hit it on the nail. I understand HararBoy's concern. But it is not a unanimous agreement between Harari's. Most Harari's do consider themselves as Habesha. But those that encouraged the Jebha in the Harar region don't. The term Habasha has a religious connotation to some. But the reality is, it's an ethnicity. The Prophet sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam called Bilal "al-Habashi". He was not linking him to Christians, but to his ethnicity. But this is the trend with many Ethio-Semitic groups where many in these ethnic groups tend to disassociate themselves from term Habesha because of not wanting to be linked and associated with Amhara Christians. Argobba's do it, Silte's do it, Harari elders do it, Tigre's do it, and the Jeberti's of Tigray do it as well. The Jeberti's of Ethiopia who are ethnically Amhara and Tigrawi Muslims do it. But when you listen to Harari historians, they admit the habesha name. But Harari politicians out right deny it. Many religious Harari's acknowledge it because they know Bilal was a habashi, Ashama was a habashi, the Habashis who visited the Prophet from Habasha in his lifetime were habashis, etc. Depending on who you speak to, you might get a different answer. Making Harari's, Argobba's, Silte's, Muslim Amhara and Tigrawi Habashis doesn't mean we are Christian Amhara. Historically, Arab historians never denied the "habashaness" of Muslim Habasha's. al-Maqrizi authored a famous book that he entitled "al-Ilmaam bi-akhbaari man bi ardil-habashati min muluk al-Islaam" which means "clearing up who in the land of Abyssinia is among the Kings of Islam." Imam as-Suyuti authored many books on Muslim Abyssinians like "Raf'u sha'n al-Hubshan." Sometimes we have to understand there is an actual definition to a term, but then there is also a political definition to a term. I as a Harari, say I'm Habasha, but in no way make an affiliation to Amhara people, other than we are ethio-semitic people.
Oh boy the way, yes there are Harari's who are mixed with SOME Turkish, SOME oromo, SOME Somali, but the majority of Harari's are just that, Harari's who were known in the past as Harla. So, we are not an amalgam like HararBoy says, but we have some mixture just like any other ethnic group in Ethiopia.
