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Clan names

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Some Somali clans have two main grouping interns of clan tree why is that?

guess who are this i will answer the popular one that most people know.


Waxasame iyo Kuceli

Midigsame iyo Minlaawe

Sabdi iyo Foorculus

Cabdale iyo Cawareere = Sacad

Farax iyo Dashame

Wacdaan iyo Nabad waa
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You should all know this one

Habar Habuusheed iyo Habar Magaadle
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MRnutritionist wrote:You should all know this one

Habar Habuusheed iyo Habar Magaadle
Wats up dude?

Not sure about the first entry. Never heard any of them :lol: :lol:

This one I'm familiar with.

Habar Habashuud means the Mother of Habesha
Habar Magaado/Magadle means the Mother of Magaado/Magadle

Basically it means he had two wives and the family is divided two homesteads; those of the Habesha mother and those of the Magadle mother (Dir).

These are the 8 sons of Isaac;
Mohamed aka Ibran, Muse, Ibrahim and Ahmed --- they are the uterine Habar Habashuud or Habar Jelo (those that love their mother)
Abdirahman (Awal or first), Ismail (Garhajis), Ayub and second Mohamed (Arab) are from the Magadle mother.

Indeed two sons were given the same name from the two wives and that's why Ibran and Arab were used to distinguish the two.

Today Ayub and Abdirahman are close (Ayub and Awal) while Ismail and Arab have always been partners in crime especially Arab and the nephew Duad Ismail aka Eidagale (both ran Arab/Eidagale sultanate together).

Arab used to share everything with Garhajis. He was seen as the little what we call "shodhe" of Eidagale while Ayub used to and still fits into Awal aka Abdirahman.

Our tribal experts will enlighten us :mrgreen:
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:wtf: hawdian I know your xabashi but :mindblown:

Why you exposing us waa bila awal iyo ayub isla xishoo inadeer. :meles:
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so does habuushed consist of only habar jeclo? i thought HJ was one of four sons of habuushed along with cibraan, sanbuur and tol jeclo

ps is siilaanyo part of either cibraan, sanbuur or tol jeclo
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BigBreak wrote:so does habuushed consist of only habar jeclo? i thought HJ was one of four sons of habuushed along with cibraan, sanbuur and tol jeclo

ps is siilaanyo part of either cibraan, sanbuur or tol jeclo
Yup that's true, Habar Habuushed is a collation of 3 sons Muse, Saanbur & Cimraan.
Muse is the large clan in the collation making 95% of it and nick named Habar Jeclo.
Sanbuur & Cimraan are very small in numbers and come under Muse (HJ) and they're still part of it.
Sanbuur is the sub that started Dhabshiil and Cimraan wants to break from Muse though they're still very small.
There is another son named Ahmed (Habar Toljeclo) is larger than both of his tiny cousins but according to the adult population
in 2003 election, still very small. Unlike the former 2, Habar Tol Jeclo is somewhat autonomous and doesn't live in the east under Muse but mainly in Hargiesa & Gabiely areas. Nevertheless all 4 brothers Muse, Sanbuur, Cimraan & Ahmed are mothered by a Xabashi women.

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In return Muse Shikh Isaaq splits into two lineages.
Muse Abokor & Maxamed Abokor, together they make 95%-97% of all
Habar Xabuushed/ Habar Jeclo today. Silanyo is Black Adam which I think comes under Maxamed Abokor.
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thanks rambie :up:
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AwRastaale wrote:
MRnutritionist wrote:You should all know this one

Habar Habuusheed iyo Habar Magaadle
Wats up dude?

Not sure about the first entry. Never heard any of them :lol: :lol:

This one I'm familiar with.

Habar Habashuud means the Mother of Habesha
Habar Magaado/Magadle means the Mother of Magaado/Magadle

Basically it means he had two wives and the family is divided two homesteads; those of the Habesha mother and those of the Magadle mother (Dir).

These are the 8 sons of Isaac;
Mohamed aka Ibran, Muse, Ibrahim and Ahmed --- they are the uterine Habar Habashuud or Habar Jelo (those that love their mother)
Abdirahman (Awal or first), Ismail (Garhajis), Ayub and second Mohamed (Arab) are from the Magadle mother.

Indeed two sons were given the same name from the two wives and that's why Ibran and Arab were used to distinguish the two.

Today Ayub and Abdirahman are close (Ayub and Awal) while Ismail and Arab have always been partners in crime especially Arab and the nephew Duad Ismail aka Eidagale (both ran Arab/Eidagale sultanate together).

Arab used to share everything with Garhajis. He was seen as the little what we call "shodhe" of Eidagale while Ayub used to and still fits into Awal aka Abdirahman.

Our tribal experts will enlighten us :mrgreen:
I thought Arab was one of the Sons of Garhajis
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Nah man Arab is treated like Garhajis coz of the closeness while growing up but he is a man of his own. He is not son of Garhajis (Ismail). Garhajis had two sons; Daud (Eidagale) and Yonis (Hbr Yonis).

They are called Garhajis coz the rest of the fam used to come to him for disputes thus solving issues (gartu xegin jiray).
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Isaaq are related to Xabasha :damn:



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AwRastaale wrote:
MRnutritionist wrote:You should all know this one

Habar Habuusheed iyo Habar Magaadle
Wats up dude?

Not sure about the first entry. Never heard any of them :lol: :lol:

This one I'm familiar with.

Habar Habashuud means the Mother of Habesha
Habar Magaado/Magadle means the Mother of Magaado/Magadle

Basically it means he had two wives and the family is divided two homesteads; those of the Habesha mother and those of the Magadle mother (Dir).

These are the 8 sons of Isaac;
Mohamed aka Ibran, Muse, Ibrahim and Ahmed --- they are the uterine Habar Habashuud or Habar Jelo (those that love their mother)
Abdirahman (Awal or first), Ismail (Garhajis), Ayub and second Mohamed (Arab) are from the Magadle mother.

Indeed two sons were given the same name from the two wives and that's why Ibran and Arab were used to distinguish the two.

Today Ayub and Abdirahman are close (Ayub and Awal) while Ismail and Arab have always been partners in crime especially Arab and the nephew Duad Ismail aka Eidagale (both ran Arab/Eidagale sultanate together).

Arab used to share everything with Garhajis. He was seen as the little what we call "shodhe" of Eidagale while Ayub used to and still fits into Awal aka Abdirahman.

Our tribal experts will enlighten us :mrgreen:
Ladies and Gentleman,
Here is Makhnuud Awbustaale who is so obsessed with long feet of Ogadeens proving that his mother is Xabashi....In my culture claiming that your half Xabashi is asking for trouble.
:damn: :damn:
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MRnutritionist wrote:Some Somali clans have two main grouping interns of clan tree why is that?

guess who are this i will answer the popular one that most people know.


Waxasame iyo Kuceli

Midigsame iyo Minlaawe

Sabdi iyo Foorculus

Cabdale iyo Cawareere = Sacad

Farax iyo Dashame

Wacdaan iyo Nabad waa
Looks like there are lots of isaaq Somalinet Members :up:
Im guessing there are no Duduble Somalinet Members so I will answer the first one

Waxasame iyo Kuceli = Duduble
Duduble wuxuu u kala baxaa
Waxasame iyo Kuceli

I'm waiting the rest
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Faarax iyo dashame= saleeban of habar gidir

Wacdaan iyo nabadwaa= Wacdaan cismaan of Mudulood
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Warsheekh wrote:Faarax iyo dashame= saleeban of habar gidir :up:

Wacdaan iyo nabadwaa= Wacdaan cismaan of Mudulood :down:
You got the first one right my friend
second you got it wrong i'm afraid , Mudulood had too many sons five in total, the clans i listed are only two sons or split two main groups

Try again Wacdaan iyo nabadwaa
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AwRastaale wrote:Nah man Arab is treated like Garhajis coz of the closeness while growing up but he is a man of his own. He is not son of Garhajis (Ismail). Garhajis had two sons; Daud (Eidagale) and Yonis (Hbr Yonis).

They are called Garhajis coz the rest of the fam used to come to him for disputes thus solving issues (gartu xegin jiray).
Daud's brother was Said not Yonis.

Daud Ismail(Eidagle) Said Ismail(HY). Arab and Garhajis(Ismail) were Twins.

The name Yonis comes from the mother of Ismail Arre and Muuse Arre, she was aabo Yonis Darod.
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