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Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:23 am
by Hararboy
Its something ive always wondered. I get that Arabs have been marrying sudanese people for hundreds of years and there are some highly mixed sudanese people that could pass as Arab but most sudanese arab people I met in Australia either look like Habeshas or somalis, only a few look arab. And unlike Somalis who consider Ethiopians, inspite of our own cultural differences as being apart of the broader cushitic ancestral family tree, most sudanese arabs I met identify more with Arabs from Egypt and SA than those from the horn. They actually look down on us according to some of my friends whove had arab sudanese relatives.
This dude looks like my Oromo neighbour, hes discussing racism against south sudanese people by arab sudanese. He considers himself an Arab sudanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcTIswZQQW0

Has anyone spoken to a Sudanese about their arab identity here?

Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:32 am
by Xildiiid
Lol, most of them are Nilo-Saharan/Arab hybrids. Only the so called ''Nubians'' in Southern Egypt and North East Sudan are Cushites (Beja).

Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:52 am
by Hararboy
Xildiiid wrote:Lol, most of them are Nilo-Saharan/Arab hybrids. Only the so called ''Nubians'' in Southern Egypt and North East Sudan are Cushites (Beja).
ive only known a few, maybe 4 and they all either look habesha or Somali, perhaps theyre originally beja.

Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:58 am
by Revolutionary
Sudan culturally, linguistically, lineally, dialectically, historically, politically, religiously and neighborly/geographically is all Arab after the spread of Islam and when Amr ibn al-as conquered North Africa so therefore, they are Arabs.

Do you also consider Maghrebi-Berber, Libyans, Egyptians and Shami people Arab as well? The reality is everyone is just Arabized and have left their identity long time ago hence why Arabs today are diverse and range from European, dark, light and Asian features etc. The descendant of Ismail (real Arabs) are from the Arabian peninsula.

Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:13 am
by Django
The descrndants of Ismael as are not real Arabs .They are Carabbul musta carab.Real Arabs are qahtaan aka Yemenis.

Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:15 am
by LobsterUnit
Kush baa kan lagu wasay

Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:35 am
by Adali
Even many egyptian are very cushtic in their look. But it doesn't matter who identifies as what as long as they happy with that lol.

Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:06 pm
by jalaaludin5
Dee Diinti markey qaateen, luqadiina ku darsadeen the next logical step was Arabnimadana qaata, koley waxba ma hadhine.

Adigu see, waxaad tiri...Kitaabka Karimka qaataye, luqada adeerow ila dhaf.
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Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:30 pm
by jamal9
somalians are arabs too. we in the arab league, remember?

Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:23 pm
by Raganimo
Hararboy wrote:Its something ive always wondered. I get that Arabs have been marrying sudanese people for hundreds of years and there are some highly mixed sudanese people that could pass as Arab but most sudanese arab people I met in Australia either look like Habeshas or somalis, only a few look arab. And unlike Somalis who consider Ethiopians, inspite of our own cultural differences as being apart of the broader cushitic ancestral family tree, most sudanese arabs I met identify more with Arabs from Egypt and SA than those from the horn. They actually look down on us according to some of my friends whove had arab sudanese relatives.
This dude looks like my Oromo neighbour, hes discussing racism against south sudanese people by arab sudanese. He considers himself an Arab sudanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcTIswZQQW0

Has anyone spoken to a Sudanese about their arab identity here?
Northern Sudanese Arabs are not Cushitic. They're a mixture of Arabs and indigenous black tribes.

The only Cushites are the Beja and they have their own identity and are not considered "Arab".

They are a very fascinating people by the way. They have many shared traditions with Somalis.

Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:24 pm
by Raganimo
jamal9 wrote:somalians are arabs too. we in the arab league, remember?
:dead: :deadrose:

Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:51 pm
by gegiroor
Is the Cushitic bogus claim the new coat worn by the Ex-Muslims? :deadrose:

Why someone is this, why someone is that. Crap! Don't you people have a life?

Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:35 pm
by TheGrumpyGeeljire
gegiroor wrote:Is the Cushitic bogus claim the new coat worn by the Ex-Muslims? :deadrose:

Why someone is this, why someone is that. Crap! Don't you people have a life?
Runta usheeg :lol:

Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:52 pm
by JSL3000
northern africans claims arab so do many other tribes in africa.

Re: Why do Sudanese cushites identify as Arab?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:34 pm
by gegiroor
TheGrumpyGeeljire wrote:
gegiroor wrote:Is the Cushitic bogus claim the new coat worn by the Ex-Muslims? :deadrose:

Why someone is this, why someone is that. Crap! Don't you people have a life?
Runta usheeg :lol:

We can easily decipher the different shades that these folks hide behind. :damn: