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Their Hypocrisy?

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The Somaliland members here keep mentioning that Ogaadeen are under colonial occupation and are pro colonial occupation forces. They accuse us of being loyal to Kenya and Ethiopia when in fact, the Somali communities in Kenya and Ethiopia are more Somali than the ones in Muqdisho, Kismaayo or Boosaaso and of course the secessionists in Hargaisa . In Jigjiga the beautiful blue flag is everywhere.When I went to Jigjiga and DIredawa, what I saw changed me completely about my views about DDSI because I saw a diverse Somali community of all clans and backgrounds. I felt so good that I started supporting Madaxweyne Cabdi Maxamuud Cumar. As I mentioned before in other threads, the biggest electronic store in Jigjiga which, by the way, is painted throughly and so proudly with the beautiful blue flag with the five-star in the middle is owned by Hawiye from Muqdisho. There are so many Hawiye and southerners in Jigjiga and DDSI. I met a brother in Diredawa who has a computer store and I told him i was from North America. Notice i said North America because our people back home consider Canada part of the great United States of America, sorry Canucks, pun intended! He asked me if I knew his brother and i said what is his name, and he said "Caga Weyne". I laughed at him because big feet is fortunately associated with my clan. I then found out he was telling the truth and he indeed has a brother called Caga Weyne from Toronto. They are HG, Saleebaan and Cagaweyne is apparently known among soccer communities in Toronto. That brother told me that he is Ethiopian because of Jigjgiga. The difference between JigJiga and Hargaisa is that JigJiga is proud of Muqdisho and in fact knows that powerful Muqdisho will be a great asset to its identity and existence. They sing songs to remind Muqdisho that we are One People:
1. Cali Dhaanto openly singing how he wants Muqdisho, the capital of all the five Somali regions, to be back. Sample of the amazing lyrics from this song:
Maamulkoo suuban iyo midniomo iyo horumarin
Mudo badan halkaad mari maxaan la rabay


2. Budul singing how how we are one people whose destiny depend on each other:
Dhalinyarada Xamareey sida dhabta ah labo wado dhashoo isku dhiig ah beynu nahay
Dhismo wacanta Xamar iyo DDSI waa dad isku dhow oon kala dheeraan kareyn


As for Somalis in Kenya, it is the powerful Somalis in NFD who have enabled Somalis to consider Kenya to be their second home. The richest people in Kenya today are Somalis and many of them are from Muqdisho and we are proud of that. The foreign minister of Kenya today is Dhulbahante girl.

Waxaan ahay Soomaali Xildhibaan, Somalia, Ethiopia, Kenya, Jabuuti waxaa iskaleh Soomaali
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Innocent people of my clan including children and women were thrown into the Shabeele river in the thousands because of their clan. But that doesn't mean I would give my Somaliness because of the actions of few clan-driven criminals. What do iidoors have to show? When couple of singers visited Muqdisho to sing, they were arrested. My grandfather told me once that Siyad Maxamed Cabdille Xasan's last words when he fled from British bombardment was "Somali midnimadeedaa iidoor uga baq". He didn't say British, Ethiopia or Kenya. Those people have no right to accuse other noble Somali clans to be puppets or under occupation. Show us the money and we believe you!!
I am really proud of my OG people and their sacrifices to the greater Somaliness :up:
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Ogaden are clueless when it comes to most things including politics due to their low intelligence.

The essay above is good example.

Singing isn't about politics. Budul, Nimco Daren and all the other subjects all sang about Somaliland.

They just needed jobs. Ali Dhaanto is currently unemployed and TPLF stopped funding propaganda dhaanto songs.

That's why his music went down and there no more quality production videos just pictures and music recorded over.

TPLF cut funding.

SL wants to stand on its own and Mogadisthe is against that. It is normal to contront your enemy.

SL and Isaac fought hard and won their war but Ogaden long gave up.

Now all they have dhaanto (even that no longer funded) and a man that doesn't know if tomorrow he still has a job on behave of TPLF.

You resent Isaac because they put an end to any Ogaden dream of freedom including dismantling the Somaliweyn ideology that could have rescued you.

In the end Isaac killed two birds with one stone and ghings will remain that way.

Now all we need is for Ethiopia to run the potential Ogaden gas pipeline via Berbera even though even in Djibouti Isaac businessmen are to benefit.

That will be the icing on the cake.
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Guhad

You absolutely right, anyone that travelled around will tell you the same, forget about occupation or being pro-colonial for a moment, a lot of them (not all) have something no other Somali's anywhere in the world have, and that's deep hatred for other Somali's, Somaliweyn, Somalinimo and that ethnic blue Flag that represents the 5 regions.

To accuse the people that have most likely sacrificed the most blood in defence of Somalinimo throughout history of being pro-colonial is callous and treachery, There is no Somali that is free today, we are all shamefully under colonization, due to our own collectivity idiocy, what's even more shameful then all of that is those morons that are in denial, everywhere you'll find large groups of pro somaliweyn, I even met many Bantu's and NFD Somali's, everywhere except the triangle of the 3 Habro's up North.
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smooth wrote:Guhad

You absolutely right, anyone that travelled around will tell you the same, forget about occupation or being pro-colonial for a moment, a lot of them (not all) have something no other Somali's anywhere in the world have, and that's deep hatred for other Somali's, Somaliweyn, Somalinimo and that ethnic blue Flag that represents the 5 regions.

To accuse the people that have most likely sacrificed the most blood in defence of Somalinimo throughout history of being pro-colonial is callous and treachery, There is no Somali that is free today, we are all shamefully under colonization, due to our own collectivity idiocy, what's even more shameful then all of that is those morons that are in denial, everywhere you'll find large groups of pro somaliweyn, I even met many Bantu's and NFD Somali's, everywhere except the triangle of the 3 Habro's up North.
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Even though half of my family is from Ogadenia, anytime i need Amharic translation, I employ the services of our iidoor brother Awrastaale AKA Hawdiyan. All Amharic translators in Jigjiga are iidoor :clap: :clap: :clap:
In Jigjiga University which is a federally funded university, there is an entire specialization in Somali culture where you learn great Somali history contirubters such as Abshir Bacadle and Cismaan Geedi Raage. In the Secessionist enclave, if you are not iidoor, you are excluded.
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AwRastaale wrote: Singing isn't about politics. Budul, Nimco Daren and all the other subjects all sang about Somaliland.
So did many other Koonfur musicians like Fiska, what exactly is the point your trying to make? To them it's somalinimo and they see no difference as they don't share your sickness, what do you think would have happened if one of your singers sang about Xamar? I mean never mind singing about it, they couldn't even sing there own songs without you shamefully arresting them to try and loot them of the fortune they made.

Even Djibouti singers are all over the ethnic blue flag singing, you look at the comments from the 3 Habro's on Awale Aden latest song were the blue flag appears in the background, you'll begin to see how mentally sick and deranged most of these people really are, your whole rallying uniting call for your politician is "hatred for Koonfur", the more hatred a politician shows the more popular he gets, what a despicable legacy.
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guhad122 wrote: Smooth,
Even though half of my family is from Ogadenia, anytime i need Amharic translation, I employ the services of our iidoor brother Awrastaale AKA Hawdiyan. All Amharic translators in Jigjiga are iidoor :clap: :clap: :clap:
In Jigjiga University which is a federally funded university, there is an entire specialization in Somali culture where you learn great Somali history contirubters such as Abshir Bacadle and Cismaan Geedi Raage. In the Secessionist enclave, if you are not iidoor, you are excluded.
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Spot on! even the North Koreans are better, they want unification whereas for these people it's a race to the bottom, the more hatred you can show towards Koonfur the more likely the people their will vote for you, most people blame their politicians for the hatred but that's wrong, they are just a reflection of the people, Abdi Ileey today just in a mere few years, the whole region he controls is 100x ahead of them, they are just buthurt about it that you beat them to it after fighting Xabashi's for so long while they were handing your people to them on a plate, now they are crying that the Gas exports come via Berbera instead of Djibouti, Abdi Ileey must be laughing himself to death :russ:
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Singers sing for whoever is giving them bread and butter for the night.

Ali Dhaanto only made Xamar song because TPLF stopped funding propaganda dhaanto songs/videos.

That's my point son.

Look Ogaden celebrated 200 years of Menelik conquest just last week.

And Hawiye will celebrate 200 years of AMISOM rule when the time comes.

The gas belongs to Ethiopia and Addis will decide where it goes and who gets what cut.

Ogaden have no say. Even if they say the word gas, they will perish in Ogaden jail nicely named for them after them.
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AwRastaale wrote:Singers sing for whoever is giving them bread and butter for the night.

Ali Dhaanto only made Xamar song because TPLF stopped funding propaganda dhaanto songs/videos.

That's my point son.

Look Ogaden celebrated 200 years of Menelik conquest just last week.

And Hawiye will celebrate 200 years of AMISOM rule when the time comes.

The gas belongs to Ethiopia and Addis will decide where it goes and who gets what cut.

Ogaden have no say. Even if they say the word gas, they will perish in Ogaden jail nicely named for them after them.
Hawdian,
In totalitarian regimes, a singer doesn't have a voice to sing what he feels. They have to sing the voice and the feeling of the totalitarian regime they are operating under. Why is that the so-called Marqaan land singer can't sing about Somali unity? I would pay them a lot personally to see Xamda queen singing the Somali unity and waving the Somali unity? The singers in Jigjiga can't sing any song that haven't approved by the administration. If you have excluded Cali Dhaanto in the equation, how about Budul? You should see how that motherfocker runs the show in JigJiga. He is referred as the King of Dhaanto and Culture in Jijgia and lives in a house with elevator, yet he sings about Muqdisho and how misses it.
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guhad122 wrote: Smooth,
Even though half of my family is from Ogadenia, anytime i need Amharic translation, I employ the services of our iidoor brother Awrastaale AKA Hawdiyan. All Amharic translators in Jigjiga are iidoor :clap: :clap: :clap:
In Jigjiga University which is a federally funded university, there is an entire specialization in Somali culture where you learn great Somali history contirubters such as Abshir Bacadle and Cismaan Geedi Raage. In the Secessionist enclave, if you are not iidoor, you are excluded.
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How come Ogaden and other Ethiopian Somalis don't speak Amharic? Haile Selassie banned all ethnic languages and imposed Amharic and the Geez script on most Ethiopians and attempted on Eritreans yet Amharic language is not used by Ogaden unlike most Ethiopians?
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Mogadishu is not threat to Ethiopia and its ownership of Ogaden and the gas that it will export soon while you look on.

Gabre is doing his job in Mogadishu and it's naturalized.

Ali Dhaanto making some cheap song about Mogadishu using 1970-1980 pictures actually serves Ethiopian interest by making low IQ people like you think that you are free to sing.

No my friend.

Let me ask you, can Hodan Abdirahman return to Jigjiga after this song?



Mogadishu no longer a threat and Ogaden long gave up and bowed to the Menelik violent conquest.

Singing about Mogadishu is no different than singing about Godey.

Each has TPLF superior.
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Revolutionary wrote:
guhad122 wrote: Smooth,
Even though half of my family is from Ogadenia, anytime i need Amharic translation, I employ the services of our iidoor brother Awrastaale AKA Hawdiyan. All Amharic translators in Jigjiga are iidoor :clap: :clap: :clap:
In Jigjiga University which is a federally funded university, there is an entire specialization in Somali culture where you learn great Somali history contirubters such as Abshir Bacadle and Cismaan Geedi Raage. In the Secessionist enclave, if you are not iidoor, you are excluded.
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How come Ogaden and other Ethiopian Somalis don't speak Amharic? Haile Selassie banned all ethnic languages and imposed Amharic and the Geez script on most Ethiopians and attempted on Eritreans yet Amharic language is not used by Ogaden unlike most Ethiopians?
Because the Ogaden in Jigjiga thinks his capital is Muqdisho, not Adis Ababa.
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Sxb hadaad adigu dhiigaagii dhaanto 24 Ku bedelatay Anagu dhiigayaga inaanaan Somalia waxba isku darsan baanu Ku bedelanay. Anagu ilaahay wuxu dal abuuray Somalia oo keliya ayaanu ishaynaa xitaa yuhuuda midh iskuma hayno . Somalia calankooda iyo Calamadahooduba oo aanu ogolaanaa waxay caqabad Ku yihiin Anaga qaranimadayada.

hadii aad adigu isdhiibtay Anagu ismaanu dhiibin. qadiyadayaduna maaha mid heeso qaraamiya, xoogaa quutul daruuriya ama qiiro japan ta somaliweyn lagu bedelo karo. lakum diinakum waliya diin.
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AwRastaale wrote:Mogadishu is not threat to Ethiopia and its ownership of Ogaden and the gas that it will export soon while you look on.

Gabre is doing his job in Mogadishu and it's naturalized.

Ali Dhaanto making some cheap song about Mogadishu using 1970-1980 pictures actually serves Ethiopian interest by making low IQ people like you think that you are free to sing.

No my friend.

Let me ask you, can Hodan Abdirahman return to Jigjiga after this song?



Mogadishu no longer a threat and Ogaden long gave up and bowed to the Menelik violent conquest.

Singing about Mogadishu is no different than singing about Godey.

Each has TPLF superior.
Absolutely not brother; she will not be seeing any DDSI dollars anytime soon and that is my point. Thanks for collaborating my point. She went there years ago and sang for Somaliland, DDSI and then all the sudden she sang for ONLF. She will be arrested if she sets foot in Hargaisa or JigJiga. In Jigjiga, there is no Godabiirsay jail, so her home will be Jail Ogaadeen.
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Exactly. She is the voice of your ONLF in that video and she will never return.

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If Ali Dhaanto too took same lyrics as Siad Barre and the true Mogadishu he too would die in Ogaden jail.

Let's be realistic.
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Let me see if I got this right....

In jigjiga there is an electronic shop that has the blue flag.
In Diridawa there is also an electronics shop that also have the blue flag.
they think and talk about muqdisho.
and dhaanto singers sing about muqdisho
and there is also A Hawiye business man in your neck of the wood who has a blue flag.

seeing a hawiye business man in ogaden town who think about muqdisho got you so emotional you couldn't help but dedicated this topic to the "Somalinimo hating iidoor" and show that you and hawiye are one and strong and iidoor alone and weak. :russ:
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