Which one is better for somalis, small or big population?

[sahal80]

What do you think our economists?

As a nation and country in an unstable continent it's better to have big population to scare the enemy off specially our ethiopian and Kenyan nighboures

I don't believe in the ethiopian numbers who r bigger than egypt

Kenya is over 40 million

They used to scare from or respect sudan as a country with big population(over 50 million)

Sudan has seen a pump-priming growth after the oil discovery but it has become weaker economically and politically after the south (between 8 and 10m) gained independence, this is why the sudanese politics r not free from the gulf countries these days

Sudan was better than ethiopia when it was unified but now ethiopia is getting ahead of it

When you have big population there will be alot of production with is good for the state.....diversity is also great and the people r changing these days from one lifestyle to multiple lifestyles

But the life will be harder and there will be huge gap in the society

In Ethiopia, artists gain millions of dollars just in one concert while the normal people don't even get $100 per month

Somalia is shyt now yet xamaalis in mogadishu get $300? Shopkeepers over $400, professors $700 per month

If somalia was not in this troubled continent, it would have been good to have small size population bc we don't have great resources

How the life is in the nuclear pakistan who has over 180 million population vs india (1.250 billion)

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... 9cbRS0Y4kg


Trolling is not allowed, this is about somalis in general not your f-king qabiil enclaves

[Rambie]

Small population because if we found oil we'll by like GCC countries. Qatar, less than 100,000 national and highest GDP per capita. UAE less than a million national with a GDP of 400 billion, same with Kuwait. While compared to Saudi Arabia a population of around 15 million national and a GDP of 800 billion despite the oil wealth is very despointing and far less sustainable.


Having a large population without any investment and planning is casatrophy. What's the point of having large population with no development? Saudi Arabia is the same size of Western Europe with much lower population and more resources but it's a one big prison without any diversity in sources if income that will fall economically when runinng out of oil by 2050.

Japan which has more people than Ethiopia and much less Land and resources out performs it on all HDI aspects. Just because large population provide a more promising market doesn't mean it necessary reflects on production or GDP.

[AwRastaale]

Sahal not only invents his own Harry Potter stories but he pulls numbers from his backside.

But I know Ethiopia takes better care of its academia. This research was done 2012, by now much higher. Also average laborer gets paid more than in Somalia.

“One of the most surprising findings was in Ethiopia,” said Mr. Androushchak. Although an average monthly salary of $1,207 put Ethiopian academics fourth from the bottom of the countries surveyed, “the figure relative to G.D.P. is extraordinarily high” — or 23 times the country average, compared to the United States, Germany, or Australia, where academics average roughly twice the per capita G.D.P. “This shows that in Ethiopia academics are very highly valued.”

- Los Angeles Times


In Ethiopia average professor is said to be paid $3,500 (assistant lecturer) to $6,200 per month (associate professor).

[Tanker]

Sahal not only invents his own Harry Potter stories but he pulls numbers from his backside.

But I know Ethiopia takes better care of its academia. This research was done 2012, by now much higher. Also average laborer gets paid more than in Somalia.

“One of the most surprising findings was in Ethiopia,” said Mr. Androushchak. Although an average monthly salary of $1,207 put Ethiopian academics fourth from the bottom of the countries surveyed, “the figure relative to G.D.P. is extraordinarily high” — or 23 times the country average, compared to the United States, Germany, or Australia, where academics average roughly twice the per capita G.D.P. “This shows that in Ethiopia academics are very highly valued.”

- Los Angeles Times


In Ethiopia average professor is said to be paid $3,500 (assistant lecturer) to $6,200 per month (associate professor).

sxb this Ethiopians you worship so much are nothing but a bunch of starving aids infected failed country. The capital has a small middle class connected to the corrupt minority regime while millions of Ethiopians are fleeing in the their journey towards Europe. The land farms has been sold to Asian companies and the girls mass exported to the middle east.

[Machiavelli2]

Quality over quantity.

[AwRastaale]

Tanker,

Our friend made imaginary numbers and it's always good to educate them and give them pure facts than empty pride bravado.

I know you guys too well. When you have no way to challenge facts you cry the good old tolayeey Habeshi iga qabta, why worship this and that.

And as for the girls.

I recommend you read:

http://hiiraan.com/op4/2016/mar/104439/ ... gnity.aspx

Saudis have had to look for cheaper alternatives, and no one can be bought more cheaply than the government of Somalia.

Despite notoriously appalling working conditions and examples of horrific abuse awaiting domestic staff, Saudi recruiters are believed to be seeking as many as 15,000 housemaids,

I hear Somalia will offer its own girls much much cheaper than Ethiopia.

Your airport is under Turks, your port and there are plans for Egypt to take the last fertile plot of land. They are not even paying you for it.

faanka iga yare ninyo anigu wan idin aqana inside out. Maybe can lie to a Nigerian or Eritrean or some Habesha even.

[Tanker]

AwRastaale

I am not saying we Somalis are doing good I am just saying if we have to have a role model it should not be the starving Ethiopians ( Ethiopia is currently begging for aid food from UN ) rather the Japanese or Israelis. Nothing personally Ethiopia is your typical failed african country. Even its own people is fleeing in their millions.

[Strategic]

the worst somali is someone who praises starving ethiopia who cant even feed its hungry 100 MILLION population,secessionist infested nation that will be ungovernable in just 25 years,somalia girls will be getting jobs and will be able to support their lives and that of their family,pakistan/india and other countires do it.
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the airport and the port is well managed by our brother,shared history and religion in a 20 year old lease generating 200 million dollars per month on average.
for egypt,Mogadishu have bilateral relations with Cairo to the tune of millions of dollars,livestock export,agriculture development/investment,army/police training and provision of defence articles as required,energy generation sector.etc,that is only for Mogadishu Hinterlands,the potential for South west,Jubbaland is Immense,We dont even Need Oil/gas to become middle income country while your average ethiopian remains poor,starving,food aid receipient,secessionist,ethiopia is just one overpopulated open PRISON where even coming to Somalia offers a better opportunity.when you have american ,british multinational companies begging to invest in your country is the day you realize you are doing something good.

[sahal80]

Small population because if we found oil we'll by like GCC countries. Qatar, less than 100,000 national and highest GDP per capita. UAE less than a million national with a GDP of 400 billion, same with Kuwait. While compared to Saudi Arabia a population of around 15 million national and a GDP of 800 billion despite the oil wealth is very despointing and far less sustainable.


Having a large population without any investment and planning is casatrophy. What's the point of having large population with no development? Saudi Arabia is the same size of Western Europe with much lower population and more resources but it's a one big prison without any diversity in sources if income that will fall economically when runinng out of oil by 2050.

Japan which has more people than Ethiopia and much less Land and resources out performs it on all HDI aspects. Just because large population provide a more promising market doesn't mean it necessary reflects on production or GDP.

lol funny cause saudi arabia is where water is more expensive than petrol!

Saudis r around 20 million people imagin of they kick out 10 million non nationals? But they r ignorants and a tribal people who don't like to do "low jobs" such us construction and security

Only the gulf countries is where the public sector is more prestigious than private sector!

Fimilies give their daughter's to those who work in the public sector not for the private companies!

I have learned good characteristics from the Arab regimes specially the gulf countries and Syria of hafiz al assad(not his Iran dominated son)

While we let one reer steal the nation, they believe that the wealthy is for all so to get the local support they enrich the elites of the society like the tribal chiefs, religiousmen, traders etc.

So in saudi arabia the people r paid by their tribal chiefs in the form of tribal army....all you need is to train and register (not ilzami) and your bank account is full!

As for the regular army, the starting wages r over $2000(9000 riyal)...infact saudi arabia is the third country in the world when it comes to the defense budget( $80bn) after the US and china

you will get a free house and other privileges

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_F ... udi_Arabia

Other jobs r just like the UK but with zero-income tax, no VAT on business at all in the gulf countries, no any sort of taxes in Qatar, the richest nation in the world

Teacher in saudi arabia and in the UK get the same wages $2200 per month but in here they pay income tax

Other places like abu dhabi earn more than any westren country

The only thing the west is good for r the benefits....only people like divorced women get benefits in saudi arabia and its hardly enough for them

In other words if you want to work for ala saud (al dawla) you can be rich

http://www.slaati.com/2013/03/20/p24854.html

http://www.teacherhorizons.com/advice/c ... -tax-free/

English people r broken but saudis r bankers

[sahal80]

Sahal not only invents his own Harry Potter stories but he pulls numbers from his backside.

But I know Ethiopia takes better care of its academia. This research was done 2012, by now much higher. Also average laborer gets paid more than in Somalia.

“One of the most surprising findings was in Ethiopia,” said Mr. Androushchak. Although an average monthly salary of $1,207 put Ethiopian academics fourth from the bottom of the countries surveyed, “the figure relative to G.D.P. is extraordinarily high” — or 23 times the country average, compared to the United States, Germany, or Australia, where academics average roughly twice the per capita G.D.P. “This shows that in Ethiopia academics are very highly valued.”

- Los Angeles Times


In Ethiopia average professor is said to be paid $3,500 (assistant lecturer) to $6,200 per month (associate professor).

sxb this Ethiopians you worship so much are nothing but a bunch of starving aids infected failed country. The capital has a small middle class connected to the corrupt minority regime while millions of Ethiopians are fleeing in the their journey towards Europe. The land farms has been sold to Asian companies and the girls mass exported to the middle east.

ignore this injireey slave. Highest wages in Ethiopia is $100 per month for the army, factores pay less than $50

Ethiopian bir used to be good under the derg, now you cant pay $100(2000 bir) for a shoe, everything is expensive

Schools r not free!

It's worse in Eritrea where the starting soldier wages r $10!!

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featur ... 85264.html


My eedo from eastafrica has asked me to find some qaraabo guy so he can benefit from the $400 per month she pays for her shopkeeper in xamar!

My closest qaraabo r found in mandheera

I know this islah guy who gets paid $700 per month at Simad university!

This is the dj university so they put it under the ministry of high education, money comes from the UNDP

Bit there r private none free ones such as mogadishu university(islah)and city university (aka sheekh) who pay high wages....

Hotels pay $400-500

[sahal80]

Small population because if we found oil we'll by like GCC countries. Qatar, less than 100,000 national and highest GDP per capita. UAE less than a million national with a GDP of 400 billion, same with Kuwait. While compared to Saudi Arabia a population of around 15 million national and a GDP of 800 billion despite the oil wealth is very despointing and far less sustainable.


Having a large population without any investment and planning is casatrophy. What's the point of having large population with no development? Saudi Arabia is the same size of Western Europe with much lower population and more resources but it's a one big prison without any diversity in sources if income that will fall economically when runinng out of oil by 2050.

Japan which has more people than Ethiopia and much less Land and resources out performs it on all HDI aspects. Just because large population provide a more promising market doesn't mean it necessary reflects on production or GDP.

since you speak arabic i will give you some useful links on how arab leaders rule their nation's

The first very special thing to them is that they treat their country like their own houses; an Arab leader would love to brag about the beauty of his country even if he had no great resources like tunisia

Sultan qabus who dethroned his father has built oman from nothing....he's dictator but a useful dictator

Oman is the poorest gulf country

Secondly, while the stupid African dictators depend on the support of their clans wich leads into a rebellion and destruction, each arab tribe is allocated for or dominates one sector.....this tribe is the religious authority and that one controls the market while presidents tribe dominate in the security.... so who cares of who rules since you got every thing?

During hafiz al assad era, only the sunna had monoply on the market and the religious institution....aleppo is industrial city and the business families of damascus......of course the alawites have benefited from the security and have built nices houses in lattakia and mezza (govts district in damascus) but they were not allowed to enter the market let alone controlling it.....they were classified by class as al bout al caskari(military boots)

They made their money through corruption....for example, Their monthly wages as commanders were $2000 but used to get $25000 per month! How? Your doing your two years national duty so they will let you free for some months and you would start working and pay them regularly!....your building a house and they would bring to you soldiers as builders! You have a farm and they...see? Not the public money as in africa!

When bashar came to power, he mixed the military boots with business until the alawites took over the market!

This is his maternal cousin...he became a billionaire bc he controls every fuking thing from communications to estate agencies

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rami_Makhlouf

He released Iran and hezbullah on syria( Destroying the ruling sunni institution)all whats happening now is a reaction of making syria another iraq!

The dad was using Iran not the other way

His dad had looked after the tribal chiefs of daraa the Bedouin region around jordan where the revolution started from

Since the regime was playing the baathist card and they speak like the gulf countries, the main drama like the musalsal al badawi in every friday was from their region....they would sell them for the gulf countries

Under bashar alawites have dominated the drama! "They want to be stars" lol

Most Syrians in Latin America r druze so all the Latin American embassies were based in suwaydaa!

All this national sharing have disappeared under the son

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_ash-Sheikh

Our last example is saudi arabia, many clueless people would blame ala saud for women rights and all this stuff..but the reality is that another tribe comprises the religious authority, they have police, massive budget, control the schools and universities so ala Saud can't challenge them!

The other tribes including the eastren shiite oil rich province al ixsaa(supposed to be the enemy within ) enjoy lavish lifestyle as oil employees and tribal army....you can say they r the business class

tribal chiefs who command an army!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_A ... onal_Guard

UAE is ruled by a union of tribes like al Nahyan, ala maktoum

Sunni syrian intellectual(calmani) about how hafiz ruled syria
http://www.infosalam.com/home/researche ... %b2%d8%a1/

[TheLoFather]

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[AwRastaale]

Sahal you can cry all you want but that's the research while you invent fake numbers or rely on Wiki which anyone can edit.

[sahal80]

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtop ... 7#p4648617

[mahoka]

What I wonder is why do Reer Koonfur always talk about xabashi starving and Xabashi women being cheap prostitutes when somalia is now famous for starvation 2 massive starvations so far in the last 25 years as well as lots of smaller ones. Also Koonfur women have been sold to Saudi Arabia.


Speaking on the issue, smaller population = prosperity, educated, effective and efficient population. We need quality not quantity. Singapore, Israel, Qatar, Uruguay all small populations and absolutely brilliant standards